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Please recommend an old school driver that can still keep up today!


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#31 cardoustie

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 09:58 AM

When I was younger, and longer off the tee, the longest drives of my life were with the 510tp.

I recall having some local members come up to me after my round at Shaughnessy GC in the CDN Am and were amazed at where my drives ended up.   I recall that day and on two converted par 5's to par 4's (they converted the course from 73 to 70)  ... #1 and #10 I hit PW and 8i in respectively.  Good lord, that was 2003, 15 summers ago.   I did the Am in 2001 and then the back surgeries in 2004 were the end of the fast Uncle Cardy swing

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#32 Exactice808

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 01:54 PM

View PostMitchell, on 13 December 2018 - 10:03 PM, said:

R510tp (or any of r500 series that suits you)
Rapture V2

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 03:16 PM

The main differences I see between today's drivers and the "Old" ones is the MOI and the spin they produce in relation to their loft. No one will argue that the MOI of today's heads beats the smaller old heads. But if you compare center strikes, it's a different story. I have several 975 LFE drivers of varying lofts and shafts. When comparing my 9.5* 975LFE (GD YS-8.1 mid-launch) to my current drivers set to 9.5*, the current models have a lower launch, less spin and go farther. However, if I take my 7.5* 975 LFE (Matrix HD8 low-launch) and compare it to my current drivers at 9.5*, things get a lot closer. Perhaps those doing these tests should get heads that give similar launch conditions instead of similar specs?

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 03:22 PM

Cleveland HiBore XL :pimp:

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 03:57 PM

If you want to go hardcore oldski,  J's Professional Weapon.  Assuming you can stand the super small size, that is.  

I'm also tempted to suggest a sleeper...  one of the Ping laminate drivers.  My longest drive of the last three years is with a Zing Blonde with KT-M shaft.  I've driven a shortish par 4 with a King LTD, SLDR, SuperDeep, and none of them could yet equal the Zing Blonde tee shot I hit in 2016.  

Yes, it's the ultimate in small sample size theater, but....   :pimp:

A more "normal" suggestion would be an R510 or R540, maybe an R9.  <shrug>

Edited by NRJyzr, 14 December 2018 - 03:58 PM.

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 06:15 PM

Positive it's been mentioned but 07 Burner TP is awesome
Posted Image King LTD Posted Image Rogue 95 MSI
Posted ImageRBZ 3 Wood Posted ImageVS Proto by You 85
Posted Image2007 Burner 5 Wood Posted ImageSerrano 75
Posted Image Pro A12 3 Hybrid Posted ImageRip'd VS Proto 80
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Posted 14 December 2018 - 06:18 PM

View Postgbartko, on 13 December 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

the billy club!

dude in my group has one of these. Smashes the s*** out of it
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Posted Image Pro A12 3 Hybrid Posted ImageRip'd VS Proto 80
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Posted 14 December 2018 - 06:32 PM

View Posttheothertwo, on 13 December 2018 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostRodC, on 13 December 2018 - 08:15 PM, said:

The question is WHY?

Putting together a semi semi vintage bag, need a driver to go along with Tommy Armour Silver Scot 845 Irons, crazy yes.  I don't even remember what drivers I was using when I was playing these irons in the early 90s.  Possibly a Powerbilt Persimmon Citation, Original Big Bertha, Taylor Made Burner, Great Big Bertha which are all obsolete now.

May look into the 910D3, I remember liking that driver.

I have this TA Beta Ti sitting in the closet simply because I liked the finish on it so much..lol. It sits there quietly with a 983K H-Cr (illegal for anything other than pure recreational play of course) which has one of the original Ion finish Diamana Red Flowerband shafts. Both of these still fair well when I take them out just for kicks. In fact, that Diamana shaft is still so good I have often thought about pairing it with a more modern head to see what it could do.

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 08:15 PM

View PostDpavs, on 14 December 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

View Posttheothertwo, on 13 December 2018 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostRodC, on 13 December 2018 - 08:15 PM, said:

The question is WHY?

Putting together a semi semi vintage bag, need a driver to go along with Tommy Armour Silver Scot 845 Irons, crazy yes.  I don't even remember what drivers I was using when I was playing these irons in the early 90s.  Possibly a Powerbilt Persimmon Citation, Original Big Bertha, Taylor Made Burner, Great Big Bertha which are all obsolete now.

May look into the 910D3, I remember liking that driver.

I have this TA Beta Ti sitting in the closet simply because I liked the finish on it so much..lol. It sits there quietly with a 983K H-Cr (illegal for anything other than pure recreational play of course) which has one of the original Ion finish Diamana Red Flowerband shafts. Both of these still fair well when I take them out just for kicks. In fact, that Diamana shaft is still so good I have often thought about pairing it with a more modern head to see what it could do.

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I had this beautiful driver and it worked.  Wish I kept it.

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Posted 15 December 2018 - 12:54 AM

How old are we talking? Iím seeing clubs from all different ages.

The oldest club that I have hit recently that holds its own is the Great Big Bertha titanium warbird 6.5į. Of course itís not ďasĒ long but surprising for its design. It has the ďvintageĒ look.

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Posted 15 December 2018 - 03:08 AM

510tp, J33r, FT Tour. Have all these in my collection and they still make it into my bag and don't lose any distance to my 917. Id say the J33r may be slightly shorter but we are talking 5 yards on good hits with my 105 swing speed. The feel of them is unmatched by today's offerings.

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Posted 15 December 2018 - 03:23 AM

Ping g10 will do you, still brilliant today. Aso any srixon, very classic looking too.

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#43 Exactice808

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:15 PM

So this is NOT a perfect science test... but validates a little more from my initial post.

http://www.golfwrx.c.../#entry18368474


Current Driver 915D3 - Diamana white board 70S 45", D2swing weight

last minute golf Friday no clubs just back up set i my office.

07 Burner - Stock ReAX TP 65 stiff- Cut to 43" D2 swing weight.


I drove the ball exceptionally well (driver is usually the weakest part of my game) BUT a specified hole #14 i generally take a smash at it,  The longest I have hit was probably as solid 270 total distance.... Fridays with the 07burner 278 yards.

Not ultra long but the point is that a 43" cut down driver, from 2006 can go JUST as for as a full length 45" 2014 Driver.  8 years in tech between the 2, but netted gains was negligible.

Edited by Exactice808, 17 December 2018 - 02:29 PM.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:20 PM

Another vote for the 2007 Burner and the PING K15.
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:27 PM

I still bag my 2004 Cleveland Launcher from time to time and lose very little. My modern (2016) driver is a little more forgiving if you miss the centre of the clubface but that's about it. In 18 holes I reckon bagging the old driver costs me zero strokes.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 03:54 PM

R7 425 TP, Superfast TP Long Hosel, and the FT-9 TA.
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:04 PM

Cobra 370 Unlimited. Itís the hi/cor face.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:20 PM

View Postkiwihacker, on 17 December 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

I still bag my 2004 Cleveland Launcher from time to time and lose very little. My modern (2016) driver is a little more forgiving if you miss the centre of the clubface but that's about it. In 18 holes I reckon bagging the old driver costs me zero strokes.

Cleveland Launcher, what a great driver.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:28 PM

Another vote for the R7 425!  :idhitit:
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Posted 18 December 2018 - 01:34 PM

Ping g15. Im sure you coukd go back even more to g10 and rapture but the g15 was just as long in a recent test for me. Hit against ts2 and g400 and m3.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:20 PM

07 Burner TP
Driver:  07 Burner TP
4 wood:  Ping G25  
7 wood:  Ping G25  
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Posted 18 December 2018 - 04:13 PM

Ping G30.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:08 PM

Mizuno MP600 Fasttrack. Sound and feel is great too. Check out the old Mark Crossfield review.
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 09:29 AM

View PostMuskieCy, on 13 December 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

Adams 9016D,......"Uhhhhhh,.....ball speed".
Or 9015d as below...

Maybe it's not really old enough to be truly old school... but it'll raise a 'how old is that' eyebrow, and ( assuming you don't suffer frm a slice ) not just keep up... but destroy any modern, adjustable doodaddded latest flavour of the month.

I really ought to get another shaft for it... my lovely.  ;-)

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 09:41 AM

View Postcoops, on 19 December 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

View PostMuskieCy, on 13 December 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

Adams 9016D,......"Uhhhhhh,.....ball speed".
Or 9015d as below...

Maybe it's not really old enough to be truly old school... but it'll raise a 'how old is that' eyebrow, and ( assuming you don't suffer frm a slice ) not just keep up... but destroy any modern, adjustable doodaddded latest flavour of the month.

I really ought to get another shaft for it... my lovely.  ;-)

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It has been so long since I have seen one of these bad boys.  I forgot how deep the face on them were.  It is a thing of beauty.

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Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW KBS 130X
Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2
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All sitting comfortably in my Sun Mountain Sync Cart Bag

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:12 PM

Every year I demo 5-6 of the new drivers.  I always say I'll pay up to $1000 if any of them can beat out my current driver.  Every year they fail.  My Taylormade Superfast Burner TP from 2010 is still in the bag and still getting me the best distance and accuracy.  And i still say it's the ugliest driver ever made...
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:39 PM

View Posturkslaven, on 13 December 2018 - 11:55 PM, said:


That's funny!  John Daly touting the Killer Whale... easier to hit because of the large head size.  All of 275 cc's!
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:44 PM

View PostDouble Mocha Man, on 19 December 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

Every year I demo 5-6 of the new drivers.  I always say I'll pay up to $1000 if any of them can beat out my current driver.  Every year they fail.  My Taylormade Superfast Burner TP from 2010 is still in the bag and still getting me the best distance and accuracy.  And i still say it's the ugliest driver ever made...

No wonder that driver has retained it's value.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 12:50 PM

As stated above, any driver engineered with any competency can get you a 1.50 smash factor when hit in the absolute dead center of gravity, As a Demo Day fitter, I occasionally come across a player that will hit something like an old Burner Driver as far as my newest. I assume it's because he has grooved his swing  so that he hits it in the center consistently with it and may not with the new model. (I didn't have one of those this year where I could have seen the hit location on the updated Trackman program and I never set out to investigate it with face tape before). But, what newer clubs will do is produce higher ball speeds (higher smash factors) over a larger area of the face, that is, there is less drop off of ball speed as you move away from the center of gravity. That's the advantage for the average golfer who will miss the absolute center consistently (as well as higher MOI and adjustability to influence Launch Angles, Launch Direction, and spin rate) Remember too, hit location influences spin rates and spin axis, more so on drivers with lower MOI.

I took my ideal target from the Glfwrx study from a couple of years ago shooting for around 12.5 Launch and 2700 cycles of spin for the average golfer with around a 95mph swing.. Since most players swing from out to in, I had a hard time trying to get them under 3500 until some of the newer models from the last 3 years. I seem to achieve those numbers routinely now.

Two years ago when Epic came out, I went to our clubs doing the "Epic Challenge" where you hit you driver (however old) then let me tweak an Epic a bit for you and see which one was longer. I was 111-6 over the course of the Spring.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 01:05 PM

I've got a friend that still puts it past me with a 905r. I've got a custom fit G400 LST so that hurts. I'm not short either with a 312 average.

PING G400 LST 8.5 w/Fujikura Rombax Type X stiff
PING Anser 14.5 w/Speeder VC 7.2 X stiff
Mizuno MP-18 MMC 3 iron w/DG 120 stiff
Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 4-pw w/DG 120 stiff
Titleist Vokey SM7 Blackout 50/54/62 w/s400 onyx

**Putter Rotation**
Byron DH89 Carbon Oil Can 350g
Byron DH89 Custom Carbon Blue Oil 350g
Cameron Newport Buttonback 350g
Piretti Tour Proto 340g

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