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Greg Norman talks about One Length Irons, Bryson on to something


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#1 ronbo

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 08:33 AM

Watched Norman on TV yesterday talk about one length irons and makes sense, Bryson backing up what he's been saying all along. Never knew Bobby Jones played a set make up all the same length?

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:09 AM

Good for him?

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:14 AM

You do know Norman is a Cobra guy?  I don't put much stock into what the shark has to say these days.  Just glad he had his clothes on.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:17 AM

Norman won 86 times internationally, including 20 Tour events, along with the 1986 British Open

The 1993 win never counted?
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:29 AM

What did/does Narman have in the bag himself?

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:52 AM

There's a lot not to like about Norman but he had a world class swing and was one of the best drivers of the ball ever. His swing videos are incredibly well done and still stand up in techno era we live in. Giving props to DeChambleau's setup is high praise coming from him. Cold day in hell I swing a PW that is #6 long, though.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:56 AM

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:57 AM

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:11 AM

View Postronbo, on 09 December 2018 - 08:33 AM, said:

Watched Norman on TV yesterday talk about one length irons and makes sense, Bryson backing up what he's been saying all along. Never knew Bobby Jones played a set make up all the same length?

https://golfweek.com...-it-over-again/

That was pretty common with hickory shafts. They had to be fit using your wrist to floor measurement. Once steel shafts became the norm, equipment companies wanted an easier way to sell clubs, so they came up with the gradual length system that magically fit everyone. LOL.
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:26 AM

View PostNo Catchy Nickname, on 09 December 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

Norman won 86 times internationally, including 20 Tour events, along with the 1986 British Open

The 1993 win never counted?

so really he has 20 wins..just like Tiger only has 80 wins...only PGA tour wins count

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:37 AM

I was more surprised to hear that Norman was such a huge Beatles fan and hosted a show on Sirius XM Friday night.  Who knew.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:39 AM

I almost threw something at my TV when Bryson said the the post match interview yesterday that “he developed one length irons”. Like he invented them.

Yeah dude?    Its never been tried before?   Really??   How about when Tommy Armour released the EQL set in 1989??

I realize that’s well before your pompous egotistical as$ was born, but you certainly didn’t invent them.



Edit....Ok, Ok...maybe a little harsh because I just don’t like him.   To  be fair, I suppose he could have meant he helped develop “Cobra one length irons”  specifically, and not the one length concept in general.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:50 AM

View PostMan_O_War, on 09 December 2018 - 10:26 AM, said:

View PostNo Catchy Nickname, on 09 December 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

Norman won 86 times internationally, including 20 Tour events, along with the 1986 British Open

The 1993 win never counted?

so really he has 20 wins..just like Tiger only has 80 wins...only PGA tour wins count

So what about those pesky Europeans winning the Ryder Cup so many times over the years?

This is such a short sighted comment. Is the PGA Tour the best, yes it is, but the standard of golf in Europe and around the world is much higher than people give it credit for.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:51 AM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 09 December 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

I almost threw something at my TV when Bryson said the the post match interview yesterday that “he developed one length irons”. Like he invented them.

Yeah dude? Its never been tried before?   Really??   How about when Tommy Armour released the EQL set in 1989??

I realize that’s well before your pompous egotistical as$ was born, but you certainly didn’t invent them.

Relax there big fella.  I think he said he developed them for his game.  Those TA EQLs were a huge bust.

Bryson is a trailblazer with these SL irons.  Can't be disputed (but I know you'll try).

His unorthodox swing is another subject.
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 12:01 PM

View PostHonman, on 09 December 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

View PostMan_O_War, on 09 December 2018 - 10:26 AM, said:

View PostNo Catchy Nickname, on 09 December 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

Norman won 86 times internationally, including 20 Tour events, along with the 1986 British Open

The 1993 win never counted?

so really he has 20 wins..just like Tiger only has 80 wins...only PGA tour wins count

So what about those pesky Europeans winning the Ryder Cup so many times over the years?

This is such a short sighted comment. Is the PGA Tour the best, yes it is, but the standard of golf in Europe and around the world is much higher than people give it credit for.


Winning the RC ? Means what exactly?


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 12:02 PM

They just replayed it a few minutes ago.

When asked about how he felt about one length irons he giggled and said “well, I developed them”.  Then he mentioned seeing Bobby Jones irons at Augusta and noticing they were all similar length and he intimated that seeing them gave him the inspiration to “develop“ one length irons.  Barf...

He undeniably  is a “trailblazer” of sorts for actually being the first to use them successfully on tour. He’s certainly earning his Cobra money.

If I was still teaching professionally I would not be dissuading brand new golfers from trying them. It’s a nice idea for those with no preconceived ideas about clubs who haven’t  already gotten used to traditional irons.  I do think it’s extremely ackward for long time golfers to try and change to them.  

They can’t work for me. I’ve tried them.  I will always try to overswing a super “short” 4 iron and I will always find a super long gap wedge bizarre because I’ve hit millions of golf balls with traditional irons for 35 years.

The one MASSIVE problem with getting new golfers started on single length irons is that if they don’t become more popular and other companies don’t start making them, a consumer will never have any CHOICE in irons except to buy new Cobras every few years.....and that’s Only if Cobra continues making them for many years.  What if they stop in 4 or 5 years?  Then what?  All OL golfers need to convert if they want to buy new clubs?  Yikes.

I actually hope they become popular enough that more choices emerge, but only time will tell.
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 12:50 PM

View PostSwooshLT, on 09 December 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

View PostHonman, on 09 December 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

View PostMan_O_War, on 09 December 2018 - 10:26 AM, said:

View PostNo Catchy Nickname, on 09 December 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

Norman won 86 times internationally, including 20 Tour events, along with the 1986 British Open

The 1993 win never counted?

so really he has 20 wins..just like Tiger only has 80 wins...only PGA tour wins count

So what about those pesky Europeans winning the Ryder Cup so many times over the years?

This is such a short sighted comment. Is the PGA Tour the best, yes it is, but the standard of golf in Europe and around the world is much higher than people give it credit for.


Winning the RC ? Means what exactly?
That to say wins outside of the US don't count. Come on seriously.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 01:21 PM

Might be OK for a tall player with an upright swing but as a short flat swinger the short irons would be unusable. As only one notable player is using them and our local stores won't stock them I cannot see them being on sale by the end of 2019.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 01:34 PM

View Postelwhippy, on 09 December 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Might be OK for a tall player with an upright swing but as a short flat swinger the short irons would be unusable. As only one notable player is using them and our local stores won't stock them I cannot see them being on sale by the end of 2019.

Think about that for a second.

Can a short player use a standard length 7 iron?   Sure.  Why can’t they use a pitching wedge that’s the length of a 7 iron?

You could argue Single length clubs actually suit shorter people BETTER than tall people. Shorter people may feel uncomfortable with standard length long irons.
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 01:48 PM

View PostNard_S, on 09 December 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

There's a lot not to like about Norman but he had a world class swing and was one of the best drivers of the ball ever. His swing videos are incredibly well done and still stand up in techno era we live in. Giving props to DeChambleau's setup is high praise coming from him. Cold day in hell I swing a PW that is #6 long, though.

Would you consider trying a 6i that is the length of your 8 iron?


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 02:00 PM

One thing I've never understood is exactly what problem single length irons are trying to solve?
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 02:37 PM

 bodhi555, on 09 December 2018 - 02:00 PM, said:

One thing I've never understood is exactly what problem single length irons are trying to solve?

Consistency.
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 02:43 PM

 bodhi555, on 09 December 2018 - 02:00 PM, said:

One thing I've never understood is exactly what problem single length irons are trying to solve?

Sucking at golf

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:43 PM

 getair23, on 09 December 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

You do know Norman is a Cobra guy?

my Cobra guy...

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:46 PM

A better Cobra player....

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 09:59 PM

 BrianMcG, on 09 December 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

 bodhi555, on 09 December 2018 - 02:00 PM, said:

One thing I've never understood is exactly what problem single length irons are trying to solve?

Consistency.

Which is funny as it’s marjeted towards golfers who have no consistency in their swings

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:35 PM

 GoGoErky, on 09 December 2018 - 09:59 PM, said:

 BrianMcG, on 09 December 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

 bodhi555, on 09 December 2018 - 02:00 PM, said:

One thing I've never understood is exactly what problem single length irons are trying to solve?

Consistency.

Which is funny as it’s marjeted towards golfers who have no consistency in their swings

Scratch golfer... Single length irons helped me tremendously witg my long iron consistency. Your argument is silly.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 11:02 PM

 Cwebb, on 09 December 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

 Nard_S, on 09 December 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

There's a lot not to like about Norman but he had a world class swing and was one of the best drivers of the ball ever. His swing videos are incredibly well done and still stand up in techno era we live in. Giving props to DeChambleau's setup is high praise coming from him. Cold day in hell I swing a PW that is #6 long, though.

Would you consider trying a 6i that is the length of your 8 iron?

I'm still using 27*-28* #5's and 48*-49* PW's so if I bought new school tech, I would already be there.

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 02:52 AM

So much hate for Norman :lol:

People must be Chris Evert fans.

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 07:42 AM

 DavePelz4, on 09 December 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

I was more surprised to hear that Norman was such a huge Beatles fan and hosted a show on Sirius XM Friday night.  Who knew.

After he played "I'm A Loser" 10 times in a row they cut him off and switched to Haney guest host reruns!


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