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AP3 vs Mizuno 919F


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#1 Houska

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 07:08 PM

Anyone thatís had a chance to game/compare the two, what are you thoughts?
All the best,


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:50 AM

Currently playing 900 forged and they are great irons.  Did not care for the feel of the AP3s at all.  The Mizunos will also be cheaper in the long run as no upcharge for shafts/grips.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:06 AM

Just buy my 919 Forged. Problem solved.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:24 AM

View PostRipken08, on 06 December 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

Currently playing 900 forged and they are great irons.  Did not care for the feel of the AP3s at all.  The Mizunos will also be cheaper in the long run as no upcharge for shafts/grips.

Agreed - I thought the AP3 was awful.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:47 AM

Haven't hit the 919's but I game the AP3's. Personally I think they feel great, however feel is very subjective person to person so I would say you'd have to hit them yourself to find out. Performance wise they do exactly what I wanted them to do. Launch high and go a little straighter. I have noticed zero issues with distance control compared to my last iron set (titleist 690 CB's). Im sure the 919's are great too, but I think the AP3's deserve a chance as I think they are great.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:35 AM

View PostHouska, on 05 December 2018 - 07:08 PM, said:

Anyone that's had a chance to game/compare the two, what are you thoughts?
All the best,

Distance is comparable on both.  Mizunos just feel a little softer.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 01:45 PM

ones forged and ones cast.
one has jacked bologna lofts, the other doesnt.
no real comparison.

Edited by LifeStory, 06 December 2018 - 01:46 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 01:47 PM

View PostLifeStory, on 06 December 2018 - 01:45 PM, said:

ones forged and ones cast.
one has jacked bologna lofts, the other doesnt.
no real comparison.

There's literally a 1 degree difference in loft...
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 01:50 PM

View Postballs_deep, on 06 December 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

View PostLifeStory, on 06 December 2018 - 01:45 PM, said:

ones forged and ones cast.
one has jacked bologna lofts, the other doesnt.
no real comparison.

There's literally a 1 degree difference in loft...

i think you need to look again.
he said ap3s not ap2s

Edited by LifeStory, 06 December 2018 - 03:53 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:08 PM

Out of curiosity I looked...….4-6 same lofts, 7-8 are 1* stronger in AP3's, 9 is 2* stronger in AP3's, and PW-GW are 3* stronger in AP3's.  The more important factor to consider is how's the gapping on course.  Just because you have two identical lofted irons doesn't mean they're going the same distance.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:28 PM

View PostJDMRN81, on 06 December 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

Out of curiosity I looked...….4-6 same lofts, 7-8 are 1* stronger in AP3's, 9 is 2* stronger in AP3's, and PW-GW are 3* stronger in AP3's.  The more important factor to consider is how's the gapping on course.  Just because you have two identical lofted irons doesn't mean they're going the same distance.

Exactly!
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:32 PM

I game the ap3's 4-pw with a 50 degree gap. The gapping on course isnt perfect but it works well for me. I hit the pw about 150 on a full swing and the 50 about 135. I can step on the 50 to get 140 or lay off the pw. I love how the irons gap from pw on up.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:34 PM

I have AP3's and I don't mind them.  These two irons you are discussing are both very comparable in my opinion.  If I was to switch from the AP3's I would most likely end up with the 919 Forged..
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 03:55 PM

View PostJDMRN81, on 06 December 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

Out of curiosity I looked...Ö.4-6 same lofts, 7-8 are 1* stronger in AP3's, 9 is 2* stronger in AP3's, and PW-GW are 3* stronger in AP3's.  The more important factor to consider is how's the gapping on course.  Just because you have two identical lofted irons doesn't mean they're going the same distance.

having such strong short irons seems ridiculous. you literally need to buy a separate pw whilst still having a "pw" in the set. a traditional pw becomes the gw in that set. such a stupid trend these days.

Edited by LifeStory, 06 December 2018 - 03:55 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 04:37 PM

I am new to playing Mizunos but I will have a hard time playing anything else now.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:22 AM

View PostHouska, on 05 December 2018 - 07:08 PM, said:

Anyone that’s had a chance to game/compare the two, what are you thoughts?
All the best,

No comparison 919F

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:02 PM

Looking at these sets as well.   Are we seeing any distance gains compared to let's say an ap2.  Does forgiveness seem better then the ap2?  I don't get to play as much as I would like and I am looking for a new set of irons that gain a little distance and are more forgiving, but not shovels as I am an ok/decent player per say for the amount I play..
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 02:46 PM

View Postterapins, on 07 December 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

Looking at these sets as well.   Are we seeing any distance gains compared to let's say an ap2.  Does forgiveness seem better then the ap2?  I don't get to play as much as I would like and I am looking for a new set of irons that gain a little distance and are more forgiving, but not shovels as I am an ok/decent player per say for the amount I play..

I can provide some personal feed back to this as I heavily tested the 718 AP2 vs the 718 AP3 before I bought the AP3's. I thought that side by side centered (pure) shots felt the same. Off center hits felt bad on both but in different ways. Hard to explain but maybe the AP3's were more of a hard bad while the AP2's were a soft bad? Anyway, distance wise I was on average 10-12 yards longer with the AP3's (7 iron to 7 iron). I felt that on thin shots the AP3's flew about the same distance while the AP2's came up 6-7 yards short of the intended distance. I thought in general the AP3's were more forgiving in the fact that the seemed to get distance out of poorer strikes. Ball flight wise (I play a predominant draw) the AP3's were straighter. I have played the AP3's for most of this season and love them. I have no complaints (no I haven't had any of these random fliers I hear about). Overall I think they are a great club. If you like the way they feel, like I do, then I am certain you will like the way they perform.
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