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Just when you thought the Epic successor couldn't have a worse name


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#31 evansmar004

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:37 PM

Let's be real, it's Callaway, is it even relevant?


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM

View PostPlayfromtheBrain, on 05 December 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Who is getting paid the big bucks to dream up names like these? Flash? Unbelievable.

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...

Edited by GolfChannel, 06 December 2018 - 02:54 PM.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 03:59 PM

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...

I'll bite. What are you talking about? What is "Flash" hyper-relevant to (and with respect to young people)?

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 04:29 PM

I'm good with the name "Flash" as long as they use the Queen song in their commercials...

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 04:44 PM

View PostKMeloney, on 06 December 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...

I'll bite. What are you talking about? What is "Flash" hyper-relevant to (and with respect to young people)?

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 05:00 PM

So you were being sarcastic? Or you think that it makes sense to tie a golf club's name to that of a current (yet rehashed) TV show and character?

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:35 PM

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostPlayfromtheBrain, on 05 December 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Who is getting paid the big bucks to dream up names like these? Flash? Unbelievable.

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...
It's possible in not the target demographic, but I'm under 35 and I never considered the Epic based on name alone. Epic Flash I'd just laugh at if somebody tried to sell me one.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:09 PM

I was actually in the "Think Tank" that decided on the name, and have to admit I'm not thrilled about it, but goodness, you should've seen some of the stinkers that almost made it.  Epic Reboot, Epic Rogue, Rogue Epic, Epic DBD 2019 With Even Better Jailbreaking Technology, and my least favorite, Epic "C".  (Hope that doesn't cue Bobcat).
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:33 PM

I got an Epic Flash once... I was walking out of a bank in central London.   I think she was trying to impress her friend.  Very unexpected.

The marketing works for me.  I’ll probably buy two.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:38 PM

View Postevansmar004, on 06 December 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

Let's be real, it's Callaway, is it even relevant?

Wait..what?

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:54 PM

View Posthalliedog, on 06 December 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

I was actually in the "Think Tank" that decided on the name, and have to admit I'm not thrilled about it, but goodness, you should've seen some of the stinkers that almost made it.  Epic Reboot, Epic Rogue, Rogue Epic, Epic DBD 2019 With Even Better Jailbreaking Technology, and my least favorite, Epic "C".  (Hope that doesn't cue Bobcat).

I honestly don't understand why Epic Flash is bad. I don't mind the name at all

I thought Rogue was way worse. Literally every product category has something called Rogue

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:57 PM

View Postpcs11, on 05 December 2018 - 04:17 PM, said:

View PostLifeStory, on 05 December 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

View Postpcs11, on 05 December 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

Isn't the Epic's successor the Rogue?  So the Epic Flash would be the Rogue's successor?

rogue was the successor to the xr16

Cripes hard to keep this stuff straight.  Thank you sir!
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:06 AM

View PostKMeloney, on 06 December 2018 - 05:00 PM, said:

So you were being sarcastic? Or you think that it makes sense to tie a golf club's name to that of a current (yet rehashed) TV show and character?

People have picked clubs for dumber reasons. The show is successful and not going away anytime soon. Despite DC Superhero movies typically being trash, the Flash was one of the brighter spots of the movie so you can plan on seeing more of him on the big and small screen.

The only thing sabotaging Callaway is that Red/Yellow is typically used by Taylormade which is probably why they used green instead (plus people seemed to like that shade on the Epic, so why reinvent the wheel totally).
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:05 AM

View PostKMeloney, on 06 December 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...

I'll bite. What are you talking about? What is "Flash" hyper-relevant to (and with respect to young people)?

Donít feel bad. I had no idea either. ( never heard of flash ).


But I donít live in my moms basement or have her do my laundry.    So ..... not in that demographic?

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:30 AM

Name is incoherent and sounds silly.  What do Epic and Flash have to do with each other?  Just stick 2 exciting words together and call it a day?  Big swing and a miss.

Now I'm trying to decide which is a bigger turd, PGA Tour's 'Live under par" or this....


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:51 AM

View PostThreeBoxers, on 07 December 2018 - 09:30 AM, said:

Name is incoherent and sounds silly.  What do Epic and Flash have to do with each other?  Just stick 2 exciting words together and call it a day?  Big swing and a miss.

Now I'm trying to decide which is a bigger turd, PGA Tour's 'Live under par" or this....

So, you think this driver will be a flash in the pan?

I don't have much of a beef with this name. Now, "Rocketballz"? Just terrible (and I still have 2 of 3 RBZ clubs in the bag). For me, that name was especially stupid because it had "ball" in the name of the things that HIT the ball. Along with sounding childish, it didn't make any sense to me.

And when these manufacturers say that something has "jailbreak technology," or "hammerhead technology," it's ridiculous. Those things are brand names, not technologies. If you want to put a sticker on your car showing that it has a V8, or dual overhead cam, or a hybrid engine, then go nuts -- because those are actual technologies. "Variable face thickness" describes an actual condition or technology. "Jailbreak" isn't a technology.

I am sure they're just trying to elicit an association to something good and relevant with this name. If you think the ball will come off the face with a flash, then that's good. If you think this driver's useful life will flash before your eyes, then that's not so good.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:01 AM

It basically means, "impressively quick".

Maybe less online forums and more books for you guys.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:20 AM

View PostBubbtubbs, on 06 December 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostPlayfromtheBrain, on 05 December 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Who is getting paid the big bucks to dream up names like these? Flash? Unbelievable.

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...
It's possible in not the target demographic, but I'm under 35 and I never considered the Epic based on name alone. Epic Flash I'd just laugh at if somebody tried to sell me one.

So, you would completely write off what has been praised by so many just because you don't like the 4 letter name on the bottom of the club?  Seems a bit extreme.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:21 AM

View PostMtlJeff, on 06 December 2018 - 10:54 PM, said:

View Posthalliedog, on 06 December 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

I was actually in the "Think Tank" that decided on the name, and have to admit I'm not thrilled about it, but goodness, you should've seen some of the stinkers that almost made it.  Epic Reboot, Epic Rogue, Rogue Epic, Epic DBD 2019 With Even Better Jailbreaking Technology, and my least favorite, Epic "C".  (Hope that doesn't cue Bobcat).

I honestly don't understand why Epic Flash is bad. I don't mind the name at all

I thought Rogue was way worse. Literally every product category has something called Rogue

I could drive a Nissan Rogue while playing a Callaway Rogue with an aldila Rogue.

Don't forget that you could also be watching "Rogue One."
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:24 AM

View PostGolfChannel, on 07 December 2018 - 10:01 AM, said:

It basically means, "impressively quick".

Maybe less online forums and more books for you guys.



Are you sure they weren't going for: "A really long poem about a brief glint of light"?

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:49 AM

View Postgrochol17, on 07 December 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostGolfChannel, on 07 December 2018 - 10:01 AM, said:

It basically means, "impressively quick".

Maybe less online forums and more books for you guys.



Are you sure they weren't going for: "A really long poem about a brief glint of light"?

Well, that's why I like the name. Beowulf for the win.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:49 AM

So if y'all were in charge of marketing for Callaway, what would you have called it?
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:48 AM

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:04 PM

Rocketbalz is still far worse if we’re voting.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:08 PM

View Postradiman, on 07 December 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

View PostBubbtubbs, on 06 December 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostPlayfromtheBrain, on 05 December 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Who is getting paid the big bucks to dream up names like these? Flash? Unbelievable.

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...
It's possible in not the target demographic, but I'm under 35 and I never considered the Epic based on name alone. Epic Flash I'd just laugh at if somebody tried to sell me one.

So, you would completely write off what has been praised by so many just because you don't like the 4 letter name on the bottom of the club?  Seems a bit extreme.
Yes. Look at address and colour would also contribute heavily.

To be honest, the vast majority of drivers in any given year perform more or less the same when properly fit and I tend to not alter my bag for years (played my second iron set for over a decade), so it's important to me to have something I really like in there because I'm going to be staring at it a long time.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:28 PM

The Callaway LRS Bomber.

Long-Range Strike Bomber is the new platform replacing the B-2 bomber. Paint it all black and hope the PXG talking head doesn't sue you.

Callaway, please send my royalty check pronto. I need more wine.
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#57 radiman

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:35 PM

View PostBubbtubbs, on 07 December 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

View Postradiman, on 07 December 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

View PostBubbtubbs, on 06 December 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostPlayfromtheBrain, on 05 December 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Who is getting paid the big bucks to dream up names like these? Flash? Unbelievable.

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...
It's possible in not the target demographic, but I'm under 35 and I never considered the Epic based on name alone. Epic Flash I'd just laugh at if somebody tried to sell me one.

So, you would completely write off what has been praised by so many just because you don't like the 4 letter name on the bottom of the club?  Seems a bit extreme.
Yes. Look at address and colour would also contribute heavily.

To be honest, the vast majority of drivers in any given year perform more or less the same when properly fit and I tend to not alter my bag for years (played my second iron set for over a decade), so it's important to me to have something I really like in there because I'm going to be staring at it a long time.

I can see if you said that you didn't care for the look at address or color.  But, if you don't even bother to look at a club because the name printed on the bottom is something you wouldn't pick just seems like you are limiting yourself.  While granted, on center strikes, ball speed should be equal among drivers.  There is so much more at play like launch, spin, and MOI.  You are the one paying for the club, so you are free to pick what you want.  Just seems like an odd sticking point to me is all.
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#58 Ironmaster Oddities

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:40 PM

when I was in college, flashing was:
           Puking your guts out.....or
           doing the old trench  coat deal...

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:42 PM

View PostBubbtubbs, on 07 December 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

View Postradiman, on 07 December 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

View PostBubbtubbs, on 06 December 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostGolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostPlayfromtheBrain, on 05 December 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Who is getting paid the big bucks to dream up names like these? Flash? Unbelievable.

I mean given the desire to attract younger people into the game of golf the last thing you would want to use is a hyper-relevant term like "flash".

Thank god you guys aren't running marketing...
It's possible in not the target demographic, but I'm under 35 and I never considered the Epic based on name alone. Epic Flash I'd just laugh at if somebody tried to sell me one.

So, you would completely write off what has been praised by so many just because you don't like the 4 letter name on the bottom of the club?  Seems a bit extreme.
Yes. Look at address and colour would also contribute heavily.

To be honest, the vast majority of drivers in any given year perform more or less the same when properly fit and I tend to not alter my bag for years (played my second iron set for over a decade), so it's important to me to have something I really like in there because I'm going to be staring at it a long time.

For REAL for real? Forget the Callaway brand, or the notion that maybe the name didn't draw you to the driver... You're actually so put off by the name that you wouldn't play it?

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 01:32 PM

I would've went with Epic Flash Gordon for sure.

I could care less about the name and the color scheme. Is it any longer or straighter than mine? If so, buy now. If not, keep looking.

Edited by mizunoMX25, 07 December 2018 - 01:34 PM.

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