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#1 Quasimoto

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 11:57 PM

Hi to all you analysts, here is an average of 6 Flightscope numbers out of 16 strikes, these being similar and my best.
At 64 I am working on swing freedom and consistency, while increasing ball speed if possible.

I will post the numbers and then ask a question. Note: printing or transmitting the results was not possible due to a new employee with lack of understanding of a new device. Right handed with a Srixon 785 and PX 6.0 HC shaft.

Ball  Launch Side A   Back  Side S Descent Offline   Peak  Carry  Total
137.1 16.4   0.0 2400 117 38.1 5.5 yd   101 245   266
So I am happy with many aspects of these numbers, and I have work to do to keep building technique to apply more club head speed through timing and legwork.

My question is, with a 0.0 side angle, and 117 side spin, good back spin number, how do I end up 5.5 yds offline?
Several of the ditched shots had more side spin and ended up further offline - mostly on faded shots. Shots with a draw and more than 117 side spin had more distance, and more yards offline left.

Thanks for your help
Edit: Sorry, couldn't get the numbers to line up properly.

Edited by Quasimoto, 04 December 2018 - 12:07 AM.

Srixon 785 9.5 HC HZRDUS 6.0
Callaway Epic SZ 3+ Hzrdus
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Mizuno S18  51 54  57 Nippon Tour 105
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:47 AM

Side spin means the ball is curving. 5.5 yards off line on a 245 yard shot is nothing to worry about. And are you sure this was a flightscope?

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:03 AM

Not on a Flightscope.  Numbers look more like Foresight

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 01:08 PM

Apologies yes, it was a Foresight.
Srixon 785 9.5 HC HZRDUS 6.0
Callaway Epic SZ 3+ Hzrdus
Taylormade GAPR Hi 3,4,5
Srixon z785 6-AW Nippon Tour 105
Mizuno S18  51 54  57 Nippon Tour 105
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 08:10 PM

Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.


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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:52 PM

View PostKrt22, on 04 December 2018 - 08:10 PM, said:

Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.

OK, got that, what is the measurement Side Angle doing? Would this equate club face pulls/pushes?

Edited by Quasimoto, 04 December 2018 - 10:53 PM.

Srixon 785 9.5 HC HZRDUS 6.0
Callaway Epic SZ 3+ Hzrdus
Taylormade GAPR Hi 3,4,5
Srixon z785 6-AW Nippon Tour 105
Mizuno S18  51 54  57 Nippon Tour 105
Evenroll #5; Bettinardi Queen Bee #9
TM TP5x, Bridgestone 330 RX, Titleist AVX

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:18 PM

Yes, basically horizontal launch angle relative to the "target".

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:36 AM

5.5 yards offline is very much a manageable "miss" if you can even call 5.5 yards a miss.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:52 AM

View PostKrt22, on 04 December 2018 - 08:10 PM, said:

Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.

Very informative, thank you. Can I ask a follow up?

Say a player has high “sidespin” numbers. Is this a product of swing path or would you look at lie angles first?

Edited by Petethreeput, 05 December 2018 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:22 AM

View Postiteachgolf, on 04 December 2018 - 07:03 AM, said:

Not on a Flightscope.  Numbers look more like Foresight

That Dan guy is pretty sharp!  😆  good catch.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:48 AM

View PostPetethreeput, on 05 December 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

View PostKrt22, on 04 December 2018 - 08:10 PM, said:

Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.

Very informative, thank you. Can I ask a follow up?

Say a player has high “sidespin” numbers. Is this a product of swing path or would you look at lie angles first?

It’s a product of face to path relationship. Bigger the difference between the two bigger the spin axis/“side spin”. So lie angle plays into the face part of that relationship.

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