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#1 Kjboisen

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 11:27 PM

How to anger a group of GolfWRX enthusiasts by posting about potential weather complications while forgetting the 2009 US Open conditions

Edited by Kjboisen, 03 December 2018 - 09:49 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2018 - 11:39 PM

View PostKjboisen, on 02 December 2018 - 11:27 PM, said:

Bethpage Black is likely to be very very very wet come the PGA. Does the Tour have any alternative venue sites if the course and the forecast appear to be not ready for the championship?
The PGA Tour has nothing to do with where the PGA Championship is played. The PGA of America does. The last US Open at Bethpage in June of '09 was soaked with 5 days of rain and they still managed to finish it on Monday.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:02 AM

Unless the course blew up or was washed out in a hurricane, it will be played there.

There was a PGA Tour event that was cancelled because of flooding.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:36 AM

View PostKjboisen, on 02 December 2018 - 11:27 PM, said:

Bethpage Black is likely to be very very very wet come the PGA.

Does the Tour have any alternative venue sites if the course and the forecast appear to be not ready for the championship? I am thinking about more than the course conditions.. I can imagine spectators walking through mud-trails and players complaining about the conditions. Its as if they all grew up playing PERFECT weather 363 days a year...   Not that a little rain could hurt but the tour is really soft when it comes to anything that involves a sprinkle of rain.  

Opinions or any news on "what if" scenarios? I have read several articles on the poor conditions of Bethpage leading up to these championship dates.

Doesn't know PGA of America runs it, seemingly ignorant of the 2009 U.S. Open (as ably pointed out already), "tour is really soft" about rain, lol, players all grew up playing in perfect weather (beyond ridiculous).  

The winter time "what silly things can I post about tournaments months away" run has begun.  

I know, the "tour" should move the PGA Championship to Dubai to "grow the game" and get some nice, dry weather.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:58 AM

View PostKjboisen, on 02 December 2018 - 11:27 PM, said:

Bethpage Black is likely to be very very very wet come the PGA.

Does the Tour have any alternative venue sites if the course and the forecast appear to be not ready for the championship? I am thinking about more than the course conditions.. I can imagine spectators walking through mud-trails and players complaining about the conditions. Its as if they all grew up playing PERFECT weather 363 days a year...   Not that a little rain could hurt but the tour is really soft when it comes to anything that involves a sprinkle of rain.  

Opinions or any news on "what if" scenarios? I have read several articles on the poor conditions of Bethpage leading up to these championship dates.

I've never seen somebody take more shots and miss. Nothing in your post is rooted in any reality.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 08:10 AM

I see on PGA.com the future venues/dates for the championship are mapped out all the way to May 2031, I guess they are 100% convinced the May date works - contracts signed.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 09:24 AM

Not only wet, but very, very, very wet.

Drama anyone?

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 09:34 AM

View PostFrankensteins Monster, on 03 December 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

View PostKjboisen, on 02 December 2018 - 11:27 PM, said:

Bethpage Black is likely to be very very very wet come the PGA.

Does the Tour have any alternative venue sites if the course and the forecast appear to be not ready for the championship? I am thinking about more than the course conditions.. I can imagine spectators walking through mud-trails and players complaining about the conditions. Its as if they all grew up playing PERFECT weather 363 days a year...   Not that a little rain could hurt but the tour is really soft when it comes to anything that involves a sprinkle of rain.  

Opinions or any news on "what if" scenarios? I have read several articles on the poor conditions of Bethpage leading up to these championship dates.

I've never seen somebody take more shots and miss. Nothing in your post is rooted in any reality.

I'm tellin' ya.  There's nothing like reacting to a compliant that hasn't even happened yet.

We all should try it sometime.  I bet it's very liberating.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 09:59 AM

The PGA Championship starts in 164 days.  If your forecasting ability goes that far out, you could make a fortune revolutionizing the weather and climate industries.

I'm sure some locals can provide better info, but I think the Black drains just fine.  I went up earlier this year and the entire place was closed on Friday because of weather.  That night there were gigantic lakes of water pooled on Red #1 and Green #1 (which are on either side of Black #18 and #1), but none on the Black.  By Saturday morning when we teed off, they had pumped the lakes out and the entire Black was in great shape.  No standing water anywhere.  We had a lot of mud balls, but the ball rolled okay, nothing was mushy, and no balls plugged.  It was perfectly playable for normal people, and the worst they would have had to do to stop pros from whining was put in place LCP in the fairway.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:03 AM

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:05 AM

Lift Clean Cheat! (kidding)

And it will be interesting to see how it plays under the upcoming rule changes.  But by then there will have been several regular stops too, so that will be interesting.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 11:12 AM

Why is Bethpage Black "likely to be very, very, very wet come the PGA"? Is May the rainy season on Long Island? I was not aware of that. And I grew up on Long Island.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 11:15 AM

Would be nice to see a wet tournament with a delayed messy monday finish (like st andrews) with a Poulter win and see WRX implode :D

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 11:35 AM

View Postimakaveli, on 03 December 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

Would be nice to see a wet tournament with a delayed messy monday finish (like st andrews) with a Poulter win and see WRX implode :D
Or have Matteo Manassero qualify...that would be incredible... ;)

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 11:53 AM

View Postdalehead, on 03 December 2018 - 11:12 AM, said:

Why is Bethpage Black "likely to be very, very, very wet come the PGA"? Is May the rainy season on Long Island? I was not aware of that. And I grew up on Long Island.

Lol, ya, I'm not from LI but grew up not far at all and, while it tends to rain a bit in April and May, it's not like things are soaked for months.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:32 PM

I just checked Accuweather.com and it has the forecast at 60 and sunny for the 4 days of the event.

Edited by DavePelz4, 03 December 2018 - 12:33 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:49 PM

Actually Valhalla is the emergency site for the PGA Championship and Ryder Cup in case the course is not in tournament condition.

The Masters to my knowledge has an emergency site as well from what i have heard
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:53 PM

My only comments are that they often can't get the weather correct the day before .... and that I dislike the same course doing US Opens and PGA's .....

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:27 PM

View PostSullGolf, on 03 December 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

The PGA Championship starts in 164 days.  If your forecasting ability goes that far out, you could make a fortune revolutionizing the weather and climate industries.

I'm sure some locals can provide better info, but I think the Black drains just fine.  I went up earlier this year and the entire place was closed on Friday because of weather.  That night there were gigantic lakes of water pooled on Red #1 and Green #1 (which are on either side of Black #18 and #1), but none on the Black.  By Saturday morning when we teed off, they had pumped the lakes out and the entire Black was in great shape.  No standing water anywhere.  We had a lot of mud balls, but the ball rolled okay, nothing was mushy, and no balls plugged.  It was perfectly playable for normal people, and the worst they would have had to do to stop pros from whining was put in place LCP in the fairway.

May is perfectly fine. No issues with that date. No difference in rain compared to June and August. Temperatures will be equal to a good Masters week. Course will drain just perfectly. The fescue thickness could be thick or thin depending on the winter. When I last played it a few months back it was very sparse. Will still tangle the hell out of clubs. I liked how it was because a ball could end up playable or it could work out where you have a half decent chance. The second cut, forget it. If pros miss the fairway, they're absolute toast. Even if you can see their ball, they're in trouble.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:41 PM

See? I told you that reading the Internet can make you stupid.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:42 PM

I say bring on the rain !  I know a certain young master looking for the grand slam who dominated a soggy Eastlake one year.  Could be perfect conditions.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:49 PM

I got my tickets....and thanks to the OP, I'm going to bring a poncho and my galoshes.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 02:01 PM

Dear OP,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We had not previously considered any implications of moving our flagship annual event to earlier in the season. With fore-thinking like yours and help from industry a top-tier expert we just found - he goes by "The Club Pro Guy" and his recommended greenskeeper - I am sure we will finally host a successful tournament.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 02:30 PM

God forbid that the Professional Golfer's Association Championship

Just *might require play in adverse conditions ; )

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 03:52 PM

View PostLennon Mccartney, on 03 December 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

View Postimakaveli, on 03 December 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

Would be nice to see a wet tournament with a delayed messy monday finish (like st andrews) with a Poulter win and see WRX implode :D
Or have Matteo Manassero qualify...that would be incredible... ;)

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:16 PM

View PostFerguson, on 03 December 2018 - 09:24 AM, said:

Not only wet, but very, very, very wet.

Drama anyone?


I fear it may be waterlogged !


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:30 PM

View PostFerguson, on 03 December 2018 - 09:24 AM, said:

Not only wet, but very, very, very wet.

Drama anyone?
I always order a very, very, very dirty vodka martini....cut the OP some slack

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:39 PM

I'll be on the volunteer greens staff for the PGA @ Bethpage!...it will be ready, don't you worry :)

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:48 PM

View PostBrooklynGolfer, on 03 December 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

I'll be on the volunteer greens staff for the PGA @ Bethpage!...it will be ready, don't you worry :)

Good for you. We’re sending interns as well

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 08:38 PM

View PostFerguson, on 03 December 2018 - 09:24 AM, said:

Not only wet, but very, very, very wet.

Drama anyone?

Not sure about the drama.

Usually the acting isn't very good when that phrase is part of the description.

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