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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:14 AM

Just wanted to give a heads up to everyone in and around PHX, Monte will be having another clinic in Phoenix Feb 23-25.

Its always an awesome experience and well worth attending!

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:25 AM

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 01:09 PM

Jeff beat me to it....but definitely worth attending....if nothing else you will gain a different perspective on things and a different approach to improvement which makes a big difference.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:37 PM

Goddamn it... That is my wife and daughters birthday weekends.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 06:10 PM

View PostRohlio, on 24 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

Goddamn it... That is my wife and daughters birthday weekends.

What a wonderful present to get them, a weekend together while you go to a boring ďgolf seminarĒ.


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Posted 24 November 2018 - 06:50 PM

My daughter is turning 4... Not going to be able to pull that off!
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 08:42 PM

Iím thinking of going, need to try and find a place to sleep though. Not paying outrageous Scottsdale prices in Feb on top of the rest of stuff.

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 05:54 PM

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Iím thinking of going, need to try and find a place to sleep though. Not paying outrageous Scottsdale prices in Feb on top of the rest of stuff.

Sleeping under the stars on the range out of the question?
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 08:09 PM

View Postcopperjeff, on 26 November 2018 - 05:54 PM, said:

View PostShipwreck, on 24 November 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

Iím thinking of going, need to try and find a place to sleep though. Not paying outrageous Scottsdale prices in Feb on top of the rest of stuff.

Sleeping under the stars on the range out of the question?

Hell, Iíll haul my travel trailer out there if need be lol. Not sure the course would be happy though.

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:11 AM

Trying to swing this, itís my bday weekend and my game has been in the dumps for a few years

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:41 AM

I certainly hope some of you can make it. Monte is one of the best and he is extremely easy to work with.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:57 AM

To guys who've been to more than one clinic: Did you find your 2nd/subsequent clinics as beneficial as the first?
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:03 AM

View Postferrispgm, on 27 November 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

I certainly hope some of you can make it. Monte is one of the best and he is extremely easy to work with.

Should I go for two days or three?  Need some advice here....
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:09 AM

View Postebrasmus21, on 27 November 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

View Postferrispgm, on 27 November 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

I certainly hope some of you can make it. Monte is one of the best and he is extremely easy to work with.

Should I go for two days or three?  Need some advice here....
Based on my experience, the 3rd day was the most beneficial out of all the days. It dealt with course management and how to actually play golf. If you've already got a decent swing (looks like you do at 5.5) then day 3 is by far the most important.

Best shot I've ever learned from Monte is the bump and run with the hybrid from just off the green on a tight lie. Holy crap that move is clutch.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:16 AM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 27 November 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 27 November 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

View Postferrispgm, on 27 November 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

I certainly hope some of you can make it. Monte is one of the best and he is extremely easy to work with.

Should I go for two days or three?  Need some advice here....
Based on my experience, the 3rd day was the most beneficial out of all the days. It dealt with course management and how to actually play golf. If you've already got a decent swing (looks like you do at 5.5) then day 3 is by far the most important.

Best shot I've ever learned from Monte is the bump and run with the hybrid from just off the green on a tight lie. Holy crap that move is clutch.

Yeah, I could totally see that being the case.  Alright going to have to seriously consider staying for day #3.

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:41 AM

day 3 he does show you a lot of shots that are helpful....a lot of trouble/recovery shots such as an easier way for plugged bunker shots and fried eggs, or ball buried in greenside rough, tough pitch to uphill green, etc.  Not totally necessary but beneficial for sure, plus you get to play a bit so that's fun.

Day 1 is intro, initial swing assessment and short game.  Day 2 is more swing work and maybe some tweaks to what he tells you because he reviews your swings the night of day 1.

For your first time, I recommend doing 3 days....but what I did was only 2  my first year just to see how well his style worked for me then did the 3 days the following year so that's another option as well.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:45 AM

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day 3 he does show you a lot of shots that are helpful....a lot of trouble/recovery shots such as an easier way for plugged bunker shots and fried eggs, or ball buried in greenside rough, tough pitch to uphill green, etc.  Not totally necessary but beneficial for sure, plus you get to play a bit so that's fun.

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For your first time, I recommend doing 3 days....but what I did was only 2  my first year just to see how well his style worked for me then did the 3 days the following year so that's another option as well.

Thanks for the feedback - that helps.  Do you guys do anything at the end of the day?  Go out for drinks or dinner?
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:46 AM

View PostRohlio, on 24 November 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

My daughter is turning 4... Not going to be able to pull that off!

4 handicap? She'll love the clinic !

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:58 AM

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To guys who've been to more than one clinic: Did you find your 2nd/subsequent clinics as beneficial as the first?

Yes...as you go to more, he becomes more familiar with your swing and what works for you.  Also there is a multi step process for fixing your swing. For example:  First clinic my goal was to adjust my setup a bit and shorten my arm swing in the BS.  Second Clinic was to get my right shoulder working out and around more which would have been difficult with a longer swing.  The last clinic was to work on pressure shifts into my heels and increase my flexion into the downswing....again that would have been difficult if i didn't address the first two items beforehand.

Also...and this may  just be for me...but I will typically go through a stretch of a few months where my game falls apart...this is normally months 2-4 or 5 after the lesson. Reason being that my body is trying to adapt other motions to the new move while still dealing with some of the existing faulty swing patterns.  But after sticking with it, my ball striking has improved considerably.  Jeff can attest at Aguila this year....went 40, 32 with a bogey at the last.  Struggling to find the feel then found it on the back.  Now it's a lot easier and my off days are still manageable.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 12:25 PM

View Postebrasmus21, on 27 November 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

View Postferrispgm, on 27 November 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

day 3 he does show you a lot of shots that are helpful....a lot of trouble/recovery shots such as an easier way for plugged bunker shots and fried eggs, or ball buried in greenside rough, tough pitch to uphill green, etc.  Not totally necessary but beneficial for sure, plus you get to play a bit so that's fun.

Day 1 is intro, initial swing assessment and short game.  Day 2 is more swing work and maybe some tweaks to what he tells you because he reviews your swings the night of day 1.

For your first time, I recommend doing 3 days....but what I did was only 2  my first year just to see how well his style worked for me then did the 3 days the following year so that's another option as well.

Thanks for the feedback - that helps.  Do you guys do anything at the end of the day?  Go out for drinks or dinner?

At the one I went to we only ended up doing a 2 day, and I'd say not getting to do the on course/playing lesson type stuff was probably the only disappointment I had from the clinic. I feel like the thought process, strategy, situational type instruction would be very beneficial.

As far as after activities, myself and another WRX'er from out of town (I live in town) went out and had drinks and dinner.

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 12:32 PM

View Postebrasmus21, on 27 November 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

View Postferrispgm, on 27 November 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

day 3 he does show you a lot of shots that are helpful....a lot of trouble/recovery shots such as an easier way for plugged bunker shots and fried eggs, or ball buried in greenside rough, tough pitch to uphill green, etc.  Not totally necessary but beneficial for sure, plus you get to play a bit so that's fun.

Day 1 is intro, initial swing assessment and short game.  Day 2 is more swing work and maybe some tweaks to what he tells you because he reviews your swings the night of day 1.

For your first time, I recommend doing 3 days....but what I did was only 2  my first year just to see how well his style worked for me then did the 3 days the following year so that's another option as well.

Thanks for the feedback - that helps.  Do you guys do anything at the end of the day?  Go out for drinks or dinner?

We haven't in the last few at least not that i'm aware of...but maybe i was shunned? lol
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 12:43 PM

View Postferrispgm, on 27 November 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

View PostZ1ggy16, on 27 November 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

To guys who've been to more than one clinic: Did you find your 2nd/subsequent clinics as beneficial as the first?

Yes...as you go to more, he becomes more familiar with your swing and what works for you.  Also there is a multi step process for fixing your swing. For example:  First clinic my goal was to adjust my setup a bit and shorten my arm swing in the BS.  Second Clinic was to get my right shoulder working out and around more which would have been difficult with a longer swing.  The last clinic was to work on pressure shifts into my heels and increase my flexion into the downswing....again that would have been difficult if i didn't address the first two items beforehand.

Also...and this may  just be for me...but I will typically go through a stretch of a few months where my game falls apart...this is normally months 2-4 or 5 after the lesson. Reason being that my body is trying to adapt other motions to the new move while still dealing with some of the existing faulty swing patterns.  But after sticking with it, my ball striking has improved considerably.  Jeff can attest at Aguila this year....went 40, 32 with a bogey at the last.  Struggling to find the feel then found it on the back.  Now it's a lot easier and my off days are still manageable.
Yeah I'm considering doing a 2nd clinic because I think I've managed to ingrain what he told me to work on this summer, which was getting a deeper hip turn, and proper pressure shifting. Now I need to focus on my take away which I think is leading me to get very steep, which causes some kind of weird recovery move I do during my DS so I don't end up slamming my club into the ground. Ends up with me being a bit too in to out, and too shallow.

My only thing is I wish it was a bit more personal with a bit more 1 v 1 time. Maybe our clinic was an exception because it rained a ton on day 2 but I felt like I maybe got 10-15 mins of him watching my swing and getting active feed back. However, I did end up meeting a new friend through the clinic that I now play with regularly, so that was an added bonus.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 02:22 PM

I remember I played with Ferris a few months after his Monte clinic and he was still working on some of the swing mechanics. When he connected with one as prescribed holy crap it was a thing of beauty. I really want to go to this one, just not sure if itís in the cards. If I donít I definitely want to make it a priority to go next time when/if he comes.

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 02:51 PM

View PostShipwreck, on 27 November 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

I remember I played with Ferris a few months after his Monte clinic and he was still working on some of the swing mechanics. When he connected with one as prescribed holy crap it was a thing of beauty. I really want to go to this one, just not sure if it's in the cards. If I don't I definitely want to make it a priority to go next time when/if he comes.
Going for A) the stories and B) to watch Monte carry driver 320 is almost worth the price alone. Looking back, I probably got more out of his short game and course management than anything else. I was athletic enough to make the face hit the ball with all my swing faults prior to and after the clinic, but the way I got around the course and my shot selection has changed vastly for the better.

Overall dropped my HC 9 shots and I don't think my swing has improved a ton mechanically. I have a few swing vids posted recently in the instruction sub forum... Still looks like @$$. I just shift my pressures a bit better now.

Edited by Z1ggy16, 27 November 2018 - 02:52 PM.

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 08:54 PM

I personally think the best part of the clinic is watching some trash talker completely embaress himself in front of the group when he tries to hit a shot in front of everyone.

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 09:20 PM

Whether you are deciding to go to the clinic for the 1st or 4th time, my opinion is that it is worth it.

If you go with the mindset of a 2 prong learning approach, I think you will get the most value. Prong one being learning about and implementing fixes to your own swing, and prong 2 learning about how to play golf in the short and long term.

Having said that, not everyone takes home as much value as they should. There is far more value to the content of the clinic than the price charged, but you HAVE TO be a good student in order to realize the full potential.

In my opinion, the 2 most important things you can do when attending one of these clinics is to; first have some way to easily take notes of as much as you can, and 2nd is to communicate! Ask questions during the clinic and follow up with the man himself afterwards with any questions/comments/concerns.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:07 PM

Does anyone know what course itís going to be at?

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 12:31 AM

View PostShipwreck, on 27 November 2018 - 10:07 PM, said:

Does anyone know what course itís going to be at?

Itís gonna be at Legacy which has a sweet facility.

Is it on the back range? If so, even better.

My buddy Jordan might come out from San Diego, heís worked with Monte before and we might do this in lieu of a golf trip.
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Posted 28 November 2018 - 08:07 AM

View Postcopperjeff, on 27 November 2018 - 08:54 PM, said:

I personally think the best part of the clinic is watching some trash talker completely embaress himself in front of the group when he tries to hit a shot in front of everyone.

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How about the guy who argues with Monte and thinks he knows more? Not only is that person a buzz kill but usually they also suck.

Edited by Z1ggy16, 28 November 2018 - 08:07 AM.

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 10:22 AM

View PostZ1ggy16, on 28 November 2018 - 08:07 AM, said:

View Postcopperjeff, on 27 November 2018 - 08:54 PM, said:

I personally think the best part of the clinic is watching some trash talker completely embaress himself in front of the group when he tries to hit a shot in front of everyone.

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How about the guy who argues with Monte and thinks he knows more? Not only is that person a buzz kill but usually they also suck.

That is always hilarious for more than 1 reason.

To answer Fore's question....Last year it was all at the front of the range....the year prior we split between front and back...it just depends on the facility and what's going on.  

Jeff is right on his comments....a lot of people do exactly what Monte says not to do...work on it and a week later say it doesn't work and give up....you have to stick with it and give your body time to adjust.  Thinking you can change anything swing wise in a few weeks is ridiculous.  It takes pros months of hitting 1,000s of balls to make a change....working on it for an hour or two per week will take a long time but the change will happen.

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