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#1 BeerPerHole

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 08:27 PM

My son's 13, about 5'5". He wants a 1-iron. Where would one acquire such a thing?

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 08:31 PM

Older clubs on Ebay.  Lots of options

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 09:23 PM

Nobody said 13 year olds were smart.  Get him a Taylormade GAPR Lo 2 iron.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 10:21 PM

A 3 iron today will be like the loft of a 1 iron from yesteryear.

Edited by heavy_hitter, 19 November 2018 - 10:21 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 10:46 PM

Haha! All good answers. Thanks guys. I think this kid could hit a zero-iron. Heís an exceptional ball striker. Me, on the other hand...

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 08:14 AM

Itís not about hot good they can hit it.  Almost zero chance a 13 year has enough speed to hit a 1 iron high enough without adding loft at impact, which teaches bad habits and defeats the purpose.  Most shouldnít be playing a 3 iron

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 08:23 AM

View Postiteachgolf, on 20 November 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

It's not about hot good they can hit it.  Almost zero chance a 13 year has enough speed to hit a 1 iron high enough without adding loft at impact, which teaches bad habits and defeats the purpose.  Most shouldn't be playing a 3 iron

iTeach - what are the major influencers of ball height or is it strictly swing speed?  From what I understand most pros average around 30 - 33 yards at apex.  Anything you recommend to hit those moon shots like JDay?

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 08:35 AM

View Postleezer99, on 20 November 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

View Postiteachgolf, on 20 November 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

It's not about hot good they can hit it.  Almost zero chance a 13 year has enough speed to hit a 1 iron high enough without adding loft at impact, which teaches bad habits and defeats the purpose.  Most shouldn't be playing a 3 iron

iTeach - what are the major influencers of ball height or is it strictly swing speed?  From what I understand most pros average around 30 - 33 yards at apex.  Anything you recommend to hit those moon shots like JDay?

Speed, spin loft, and contact

Wonít hit moonball long irons unless you have speed like Rory, Day, etc.  Optimal launch and spin numbers results in a 6 iron only going 75í high or so at 80mph. Rory and the high speed guys can hit 6 irons 140+í high.  Itís even more skewed with a 3 iron let alone a 1 iron

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 12:31 PM

Well, he's hitting his driver past 3 bills now, in competition...He's 2 clubs longer than I am, and he's playing little US Kids irons. Speed isn't his problem. Paying to reshaft his kiddie irons with stiffer shafts is the problem.
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Posted 20 November 2018 - 12:53 PM

View PostBeerPerHole, on 20 November 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

Well, he's hitting his driver past 3 bills now, in competition...He's 2 clubs longer than I am, and he's playing little US Kids irons. Speed isn't his problem. Paying to reshaft his kiddie irons with stiffer shafts is the problem.

I gotta see this...


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 12:53 PM

View PostBeerPerHole, on 20 November 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

Well, he's hitting his driver past 3 bills now, in competition...He's 2 clubs longer than I am, and he's playing little US Kids irons. Speed isn't his problem. Paying to reshaft his kiddie irons with stiffer shafts is the problem.

What is his swing speed?

I call complete BS.  I am around some of the best junior golfers in the country and they aren't driving it over 300.  We are talking about elite athletes as well into their late teen years.  I won't say there is no way, but it is highly unlikely a 90 lb 13 year old can generate the 115 mph swing speed to drive the ball 300 yards.

Please post swing and post the numbers from Trackman/Flightscope and I will eat my own words.

Edited by heavy_hitter, 20 November 2018 - 01:01 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:05 PM

5’ 5” 13 year old hitting the driver 300+??

Please, Please, post a swing video so we can see this prodigy in action.  Sounds like something to behold.

As far as the clubs go.  You certainly shouldn’t bother to reshaft the kiddie clubs.  At 5’ 5” and a 110+ mph driver speed he should be using men’s standard clubs about a 1/2 inch under standard length and probably a degree or two flat.
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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:08 PM

View PostBeerPerHole, on 20 November 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

Well, he's hitting his driver past 3 bills now, in competition...He's 2 clubs longer than I am, and he's playing little US Kids irons. Speed isn't his problem. Paying to reshaft his kiddie irons with stiffer shafts is the problem.

Well I teach guys swinging 125-130 mph and none swing fast enough to hit a 1 iron at a playable trajectory.  In fact none of them even carry a 2 iron.  Iím talking guys flying a blade 3 iron 250-260 yards and going 270+.  Thereís no way your son has the speed to play a 1 iron.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:37 PM

I played a 1 iron in high school.  My nickname on the team was Ace.  It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron.  Don't listen to the arm chair QBs.  If he wants one, get him one.
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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:37 PM

View PostBeerPerHole, on 19 November 2018 - 08:27 PM, said:

My son's 13, about 5'5". He wants a 1-iron. Where would one acquire such a thing?
please be a responsible parent and talk him out of this:)

Edited by extrastiff, 20 November 2018 - 01:38 PM.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:41 PM

View Postckay, on 20 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

I played a 1 iron in high school.  My nickname on the team was Ace.  It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron.  Don't listen to the arm chair QBs.  If he wants one, get him one.

Except that an old 1 iron is closer to a modern day 3 iron and the old ball spun WAY more.  It was 15-16*

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:48 PM

when he said "3 bills", perhaps he was referring to 300 Australian (around 220 US)?

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 01:57 PM

View PostTigerMom, on 20 November 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

when he said "3 bills", perhaps he was referring to 300 Australian (around 220 US)?

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 02:33 PM

I say get him an old Eye 2 1 iron. He can use it to learn how to learn to hit a stinger like Tiger did.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 02:54 PM

My 8 yr old asked for a GAPR 2 iron and I almost punched him.


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 03:21 PM

View Postckay, on 20 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

I played a 1 iron in high school.  My nickname on the team was Ace.  It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron.  Don't listen to the arm chair QBs.  If he wants one, get him one.
Yeah - golf is supposed to be fun. I once had a cast GI MacGregor set with a 2 iron. It was a good club, good set. I suck.

And, he's not bombing a US Kids driver. He games an M2 w adult R shaft (way too wobbly - changing that one out).
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Posted 20 November 2018 - 04:18 PM

View PostBeerPerHole, on 20 November 2018 - 03:21 PM, said:

View Postckay, on 20 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

I played a 1 iron in high school.  My nickname on the team was Ace.  It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron.  Don't listen to the arm chair QBs.  If he wants one, get him one.
Yeah - golf is supposed to be fun. I once had a cast GI MacGregor set with a 2 iron. It was a good club, good set. I suck.

And, he's not bombing a US Kids driver. He games an M2 w adult R shaft (way too wobbly - changing that one out).

Chang his bag, if he could hit the golf balls like you said, he can certainly be playing a shorter set of adult golf clubs.
Utility irons will be a good replacement for the 1 iron, since you couldn't get pass the 3 iron in the modern set of irons,   Just get the utility irons for him with appropriate loft to replace the 2 and the 1 irons.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 04:36 PM

View Postiteachgolf, on 20 November 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

View Postckay, on 20 November 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

I played a 1 iron in high school.  My nickname on the team was Ace.  It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron.  Don't listen to the arm chair QBs.  If he wants one, get him one.

Except that an old 1 iron is closer to a modern day 3 iron and the old ball spun WAY more.  It was 15-16*
Yes that is the case, but I didn't know this was a conversation about today's 1 iron vs. any 1 iron.

In either case, if he wants one, get him one!

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 04:38 PM

...and, maybe he's not hitting the M2 for a while. During my lunch break a few minutes ago he called me and said, "Dad. I have a serous problem." Seems he broke the head of his M2 today on the course or range. It appears to be about a 1" crack across the carbon fiber crown near the hosel. He's had it about a year so maybe they'll replace it(?)
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Posted 20 November 2018 - 04:54 PM

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 05:04 PM

View PostBeerPerHole, on 20 November 2018 - 04:38 PM, said:

...and, maybe he's not hitting the M2 for a while. During my lunch break a few minutes ago he called me and said, "Dad. I have a serous problem." Seems he broke the head of his M2 today on the course or range. It appears to be about a 1" crack across the carbon fiber crown near the hosel. He's had it about a year so maybe they'll replace it(?)

Yes they likely will.

On that note, let's see a quick swing vid of your son.  Or I guess we can just assume you started drinking a bit early today and all is forgiven.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 05:49 PM

My son is 14 just got him. Pxg 2 iron.    Fitter was great. Found the rrihjr shaft for him,  he stripes it.    Helps him hit tight fairways
I would try to see a pxg fitter.   Great experience

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 06:46 PM

I havenít seen a 1 iron in a bag of a player ina long time

Probally at least 8 guys at my school carried tmb 2 irons and about 1/2 off them didnít have the speed or ability to consisntly hit those . Youíre 13 year old definilty doesnít

But everyone sees them on tv and thinks they need to be playing one

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 07:54 PM

View PostAaronwilson_95, on 20 November 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

I havenít seen a 1 iron in a bag of a player ina long time

Probally at least 8 guys at my school carried tmb 2 irons and about 1/2 off them didnít have the speed or ability to consisntly hit those . Youíre 13 year old definilty doesnít

But everyone sees them on tv and thinks they need to be playing one

Cameron Champ doesnt even carry a 1 iron and he sucks!!!

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 07:57 PM

View Postkekoa, on 20 November 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

View PostAaronwilson_95, on 20 November 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

I havenít seen a 1 iron in a bag of a player ina long time

Probally at least 8 guys at my school carried tmb 2 irons and about 1/2 off them didnít have the speed or ability to consisntly hit those . Youíre 13 year old definilty doesnít

But everyone sees them on tv and thinks they need to be playing one

Cameron Champ doesnt even carry a 1 iron and he sucks!!!

I bet he would if he had higher swing speed though.


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