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#1 Totalee74

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 03:25 PM

I have a toulon Columbus that is buttery soft, I purchased my first piretti, firenze, find it terribly firm and hate the feel,  my question is Would be piretti blades be firm or more like the toulon ?


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 09:34 AM

From my experience, piretti is just a firmer feel overall. I owned a CWII and a Bosa. I own a Toulon Madison, Indy, and Atlanta and they're all much softer feeling than the piretti putters I owned (hence why I sold them). Nothing wrong with Piretti but just felt very harsh and the higher pitched "ting" didn't feel right to me.
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Posted 19 November 2018 - 05:55 PM

Thanks, that's the info I'm looking for, love the craftsmanship of the piretti,  but can't get past the ting/feel

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 08:52 AM

the Toulon sound on my Portland is hands down the nicest i have had. And like all of us, ive ho´d many flatsticks.
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Posted 22 November 2018 - 11:50 AM

Maybe Toulon milled their face more aggressively? I mean its the same metal after all.


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Posted 22 November 2018 - 12:13 PM

The Piretti is a firmer feel so it depends on the ball you use and personal preference. I play on really quick greens and love the firmer feel, too soft messes with my distance control
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Posted 22 November 2018 - 06:49 PM

Would the blade pirettis feel any softer than the  mallet? The firenze I have is almost unbearable feel wise

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 07:30 PM

I owned 2 CW2s. I never liked the feel of either of them. I also owned a centre shafted Teramo and thought it felt softer overall.  Neither were for me.

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 09:46 PM

Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.

Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on
the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.

I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.
Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid
soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,
or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 09:48 PM

Feel is subjective partner.  Nobody is saying Piretti feels bad, just different.

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 06:55 AM

View PostKRW59, on 22 November 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.

Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on
the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.

I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.
Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid
soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,
or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.

Thank you for your valued opinion. You seem to be some sort of Piretti advocate around here. Maybe a bit biased. It's entirely possible that what i feel is "not great" is the feel you desire.

Mine opinion is also valued.

The CW2 didn't feel good to me. I'm not the first or last person to say that.

Edited by 81PING, 23 November 2018 - 01:01 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 10:13 AM

View PostKRW59, on 22 November 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.

Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on
the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.

I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.
Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid
soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,
or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.

thats just wrong. feel is subjective and if the "bad" or "not as nice as X" feel was due to bad contact then that same bad contact would show up on whatever other putter you tried.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 07:15 PM

I love the feel of the CWII -- and the performance is even better.

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 07:45 PM

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 09:49 PM

Does the matera still have the ping sound?


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Posted 24 November 2018 - 12:39 AM

The Piretti blade IMO will feel more firm where the larger models will feel and sound softer.

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 11:01 PM

Looking into the elite matera after seeing Tony Finau use his for a while and really like the look of it. Wondering if anyone has/had one and can give me any opinions on it what you like or didnt etc would be my first piretti after playing scotty pretty exclusivley for a while
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 02:18 PM

View PostKRW59, on 22 November 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

Anyone saying the Piretti putters feel bad , are not making center contact.

Either you are making contact on the upswing , low on the face...or...high on
the face by using a forward press / delofting the 2* face to negative loft.

I own numerous CW II , Potenza, Capri , and several mid mallet designs.
Carbon , 303 stainless , solid copper , and GSS. They all have a solid
soft feel. Depth of face milling has more influence on feel than design ,
or material they are made of . Some of my deep milled are almost too soft.
KRW59,I like all the negative comments. To me it means these unhappy Piretti owners will buy high and sell low! I have 7 Pirettis (2 Cortino 2's,2 Cottonwood II's,2 Potenza 2's and a Cortino LN) I love the sound and feel of all of them.Always looking for more!

Edited by Wizzo1, 03 December 2018 - 02:29 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 03:23 PM

My stainless 801r is extremely soft. It has the deep face milling and it's almost too soft for my liking..almost...lol. The ball comes off the blade soft and responsive. You won't find a better putter for the price 2nd hand. I say that because I wouldn't pay the $1500 price tag for my 801r new, but they can be had for half, sometimes even a third of that price on the bst or eBay.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:19 PM

A few from my collection.....
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Edited by KRW59, 03 December 2018 - 05:33 PM.

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I have added about 10 grams of weight to all the fwy / hybrid
shafts , using Sensicore inserts wrapped with lead tape.

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Recoil 780 Es Smac wrap F3 / GW shaft internally weighted to 95 grams

King Black Wedges / 54* versatile/ Recoil 95 F3 shaft weighted to 110 grams
58* versatile / Recoil 110 F4 shaft weighted to 125 grams ( heat shrink tube )

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