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#1 cros0x

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:25 AM

Can my playing partner wear this, so I can get the general wind speed and direction?

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:26 AM

You must be very bored.  ; )
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 11:22 AM

Oh boy.....

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 11:33 AM

Smoking a cigar is easier to detect wind direction with. That just spins regardless of direction.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:17 PM

I would say that if someone wears that hat to the course, he has bigger problems than finding the direction of the wind.


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:04 PM

All good points, and I thank you for them, but Im still non the wiser as to whether my partner can wear the hat.

Advice much appreciated.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:28 PM

View Postcros0x, on 09 November 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Can my playing partner wear this, so I can get the general wind speed and direction?

And just how would you do that? Has it got gauges and a compass fitted?

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#8 LeoLeo99

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:58 PM

View PostNewby, on 09 November 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View Postcros0x, on 09 November 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Can my playing partner wear this, so I can get the general wind speed and direction?

And just how would you do that? Has it got gauges and a compass fitted?

USGA banned the compass.  

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:18 PM

I thought it was the other kind of compass, the one you saw in movies for nautical navigation charts?
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:28 PM

Yes....he can wear it...I say so.


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:30 PM

Really?  May I suggest get out and  have a nice dinner, lol...

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:59 PM

Only illegal if he straps it to his chin so that when the wind lifts him from the ground you can see which way he's taken. No strap, OK.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:05 PM

Winter must be taking hold, the board should start to get very entertaining.
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:07 PM

View PostNewby, on 09 November 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View Postcros0x, on 09 November 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Can my playing partner wear this, so I can get the general wind speed and direction?

And just how would you do that? Has it got gauges and a compass fitted?

Something tells me you searched for a rule on this one for hours before posting this😂

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#15 LeoLeo99

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:01 PM

View PostSNIPERBBB, on 09 November 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

I thought it was the other kind of compass, the one you saw in movies for nautical navigation charts?

Yes, but I couldn't find an image for that kind of compass.  Here is one of Bryson breaking the law:

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:01 AM

View PostLeoLeo99, on 09 November 2018 - 05:58 PM, said:

View PostNewby, on 09 November 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View Postcros0x, on 09 November 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Can my playing partner wear this, so I can get the general wind speed and direction?

And just how would you do that? Has it got gauges and a compass fitted?

USGA banned the compass.  
14-3/4 Use of Compass During Round
Q.A player uses a compass during a stipulated round to help determine the direction of the wind or the direction of the grain in the greens. Is the player in breach of Rule 14-3?
A.No. A compass only provides directional information and does not gauge or measure variable conditions or assist the player in his play.

Edited by Newby, 10 November 2018 - 03:01 AM.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:36 AM

View PostNewby, on 10 November 2018 - 03:01 AM, said:

View PostLeoLeo99, on 09 November 2018 - 05:58 PM, said:

View PostNewby, on 09 November 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

View Postcros0x, on 09 November 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Can my playing partner wear this, so I can get the general wind speed and direction?

And just how would you do that? Has it got gauges and a compass fitted?

USGA banned the compass.  
14-3/4 Use of Compass During Round
Q.A player uses a compass during a stipulated round to help determine the direction of the wind or the direction of the grain in the greens. Is the player in breach of Rule 14-3?
A.No. A compass only provides directional information and does not gauge or measure variable conditions or assist the player in his play.


They banned the other kind of compass.  See pic above of Bryson violating the rules.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:38 AM

View PostLeoLeo99, on 09 November 2018 - 10:01 PM, said:

View PostSNIPERBBB, on 09 November 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

I thought it was the other kind of compass, the one you saw in movies for nautical navigation charts?

Yes, but I couldn't find an image for that kind of compass.  Here is one of Bryson breaking the law:

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In my drafting days, those were "dividers".  A "compass" typically had a pencil (or ink pen) on one leg and is used for drawing circles.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:40 AM

View Postcros0x, on 09 November 2018 - 05:04 PM, said:

All good points, and I thank you for them, but Im still non the wiser as to whether my partner can wear the hat.

Advice much appreciated.

If you believe it will give you wind direction you deserve to wear it.  I'm thinking something taller and pointy would be more appropriate.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:55 AM

View PostLeoLeo99, on 10 November 2018 - 10:36 AM, said:


They banned the other kind of compass.  See pic above of Bryson violating the rules.
See the reply from rogolf. But the instrument you refer to was usually called 'a pair of compasses'


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#21 LeoLeo99

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 01:52 PM

View PostNewby, on 10 November 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View PostLeoLeo99, on 10 November 2018 - 10:36 AM, said:

They banned the other kind of compass.  See pic above of Bryson violating the rules.
See the reply from rogolf. But the instrument you refer to was usually called 'a pair of compasses'

We don't call it that over here in the USA.  

Golf Digest:  
USGA says Bryson DeChambeau's compass is against the rules


USA Today:

The compass controversy is over, and the U.S. Golf Association has ruled that Bryson DeChambeau may no longer use his protractor on the course.

5]In a Thursday statement to Golfweek, the USGA clarified why DeChambeau’s use of a compass would be deemed a violation going forward


USA Today calls it both a compass and a protractor but never a pair of compasses.  


What will Bryson do next that the USGA will convene an emergency committee to evaluate?  


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:10 PM

This is a protractor.

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Edited by Newby, 10 November 2018 - 02:15 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:27 PM

In school in the 80s here it was called a compass.  Never heard of called anything else.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:55 PM

View PostNewby, on 10 November 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

This is a protractor.
That clearly is a protractor; it is not a compass.

pro·trac·tor
/ˌprōˈtraktər/
noun
noun: protractor; plural noun: protractors; noun: protractor muscle; plural noun: protractor muscles    



an instrument for measuring angles, typically in the form of a flat semicircle marked with degrees along the curved edge.


Edited by rogolf, 10 November 2018 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:57 PM

We know what a protractor is. But thanks. Think USA Today knows now, too.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:04 PM

View PostLeoLeo99, on 10 November 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

Think USA Today knows now, too.
I didn't know that as I don't read it. With good reason it seems :not_i:

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:56 PM

View PostNewby, on 10 November 2018 - 03:04 PM, said:

View PostLeoLeo99, on 10 November 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

Think USA Today knows now, too.
I didn't know that as I don't read it. With good reason it seems :not_i:

Best you stick to your Daily Mail.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:59 PM

I don't read that either. Probably just as much rubbish

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 12:01 PM

Leaving the hat out of it... I'm glad to see someone actually show a compass (what Bryson used) and a protractor (which people on TV and the radio kept calling it!  I will never "get" why he can't use the compass, since you could do the same thing by putting a mark on the edge of a scorecard and rotating it around.  But, it was the USGA...

Yes, pair of compasses is also correct. And I can't tell for sure, it might have been dividers.
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 12:53 PM

View Postjlbos83, on 12 November 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

Leaving the hat out of it... I'm glad to see someone actually show a compass (what Bryson used) and a protractor (which people on TV and the radio kept calling it!  I will never "get" why he can't use the compass, since you could do the same thing by putting a mark on the edge of a scorecard and rotating it around.  But, it was the USGA...

Yes, pair of compasses is also correct. And I can't tell for sure, it might have been dividers.

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