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#1 dannykos

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 07:53 PM

So as you'll see from my videos - I'm on the larger side. I have some very obvious swing flaws (reverse pivot, excessive head movement etc, etc).

My driving while somewhat erratic isn't too bad. Typical drives are 230-250 yards. Arccos has me at 45% accuracy, with my misses 25% left and 30% right.

My approach play is truly terrible. I hit 22% GIR with 57% coming up short (10% left and 7% right). My iron play has gone severly downhill over the last number of years, to the point where my average (well struck) 7 iron now flies barely 140 yards. I seem to come up short, even on what feel like fairly well struck shots. Longer irons are a joke - 6 irons can be okay, 5's sometimes - but my 4 iron (mp52) looks almost brand new!

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My question is - what is the most obvious inital bad move that I can work on. Bear in mind that with a torso my size, it's REALLY easy to push out and away from my body at transition - hence coming out to in, stuff just gets in the way. My best efforts to keep on plane are causing pain in my back on the right hand side (half way up). My divots look as though I'm pull-slicing - but the typical iron shot usually flies fairly straight, just very short!

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Driver face on: https://vimeo.com/299557643
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7 iron face on: https://vimeo.com/299557567
7 iron DTL: https://vimeo.com/299557623

Edited by dannykos, 08 November 2018 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2018 - 09:33 PM

When comparing your 7 iron vs driver, it looks like you're "popping up" on contact, which is possibly hurting your distance, as you may end up over-lofting the ball. (Edit: I'm not sure over-lofting is the right term... I mean to say that you're striking the ball higher than optimal, and on an upward trajectory. The more I think about it, I think I meant under-lofting. It's as though you're imparting top spin, when bottom spin is what the club set-up is designed for.)

Of course, I don't know much about golf. I'm going based upon my basic understanding of physics and the ball dynamics.

Edited by WoodHeads, 11 November 2018 - 09:35 PM.


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Posted 14 November 2018 - 03:56 PM

 WoodHeads, on 11 November 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

When comparing your 7 iron vs driver, it looks like you're "popping up" on contact, which is possibly hurting your distance, as you may end up over-lofting the ball. (Edit: I'm not sure over-lofting is the right term... I mean to say that you're striking the ball higher than optimal, and on an upward trajectory. The more I think about it, I think I meant under-lofting. It's as though you're imparting top spin, when bottom spin is what the club set-up is designed for.)

Of course, I don't know much about golf. I'm going based upon my basic understanding of physics and the ball dynamics.

Thanks for the reply. You're definitely right in that I'm coming up on the ball on my irons - just want to try and find some of the inital root causes for something to work on. I think my left knee is moving inwards way to much, causing the reverse pivot?

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Posted 14 November 2018 - 04:05 PM

Sir you remind me of Sean Connery.  One ping only Vaseli.

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Posted 14 November 2018 - 06:47 PM

 DavePelz4, on 14 November 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

Sir you remind me of Sean Connery.  One ping only Vaseli.

As a golfer, or just my rugged good looks? :cheesy:


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Posted 14 November 2018 - 08:37 PM

Where's Moneypenny?

I don't think your action or size is that bad

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Posted 14 November 2018 - 08:58 PM

 dannykos, on 14 November 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

 DavePelz4, on 14 November 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

Sir you remind me of Sean Connery.  One ping only Vaseli.

As a golfer, or just my rugged good looks? :cheesy:

Of course.

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Posted 14 November 2018 - 09:06 PM

That’s one of the slowest swings I’ve ever seen. Hope the swing experts on here can fix you up. Best of luck.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:51 PM

I watched the video again and noticed two things:

Set-up - I'm not sure if I'm plain wrong on this one, but I try to set-up forward (toward the hole) with my body, which often places my head in front of the ball. It seems you do the opposite. Since I'm the consummate "lifetime beginner," I'll assume I'm doing it incorrectly, but I can't imagine your set up is helping things, either. I know that you're supposed to drop your shoulder a little, but I'm not sure that the drop is supposed to take the rest of your body out of alignment. I would say try setting up so that your feet are no further apart than the inside of your armpits, if that makes sense. That way, you don't end up having to have your feet SUPER far apart on your longer irons.

0:22 - Your left knee is in front of your shoulders, which is likely taking you off balance. Again, you might benefit from bringing your feet closer together, but maybe flexing your knees slightly more. If you find that your club is too far from the ball, try to set up closer to the ball. I know, myself, that it's tough to do, if your belly is in the way, but I don't think you'll have that problem. That might help solve some of the contact issue, with the iron, as you'll contact on the downswing path, rather than the upswing path.

Oh, I decided to watch your driver swing, again, your head is bobbing a lot. I didn't notice it the first time, since you seemed to make good contact. Also, you set up your body more forward, since you set the ball more forward in your stance. I think doing so helped with keeping your momentum forward, so maybe try that with all your clubs, just to see.

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Posted Today, 03:21 AM

You are fanning the club face open on the takeaway, and overswinging. Try and feel like you are picking the club straight up with wrist hinge not wrist roll. For a guy of your size, I'd expect a 3/4 swing to be the most powerful - you must be losing a lot of resistance with the over turn.

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Posted Today, 12:19 PM

 WoodHeads, on 15 November 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

I watched the video again and noticed two things:

Set-up - I'm not sure if I'm plain wrong on this one, but I try to set-up forward (toward the hole) with my body, which often places my head in front of the ball. It seems you do the opposite. Since I'm the consummate "lifetime beginner," I'll assume I'm doing it incorrectly, but I can't imagine your set up is helping things, either. I know that you're supposed to drop your shoulder a little, but I'm not sure that the drop is supposed to take the rest of your body out of alignment. I would say try setting up so that your feet are no further apart than the inside of your armpits, if that makes sense. That way, you don't end up having to have your feet SUPER far apart on your longer irons.

0:22 - Your left knee is in front of your shoulders, which is likely taking you off balance. Again, you might benefit from bringing your feet closer together, but maybe flexing your knees slightly more. If you find that your club is too far from the ball, try to set up closer to the ball. I know, myself, that it's tough to do, if your belly is in the way, but I don't think you'll have that problem. That might help solve some of the contact issue, with the iron, as you'll contact on the downswing path, rather than the upswing path.

Oh, I decided to watch your driver swing, again, your head is bobbing a lot. I didn't notice it the first time, since you seemed to make good contact. Also, you set up your body more forward, since you set the ball more forward in your stance. I think doing so helped with keeping your momentum forward, so maybe try that with all your clubs, just to see.

Yes, my head is all over the place - mainly as a result of the overswing and reverse pivot. It's really hard to stop!

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Posted Today, 12:23 PM

 Bingo1976, on 16 November 2018 - 03:21 AM, said:

You are fanning the club face open on the takeaway, and overswinging. Try and feel like you are picking the club straight up with wrist hinge not wrist roll. For a guy of your size, I'd expect a 3/4 swing to be the most powerful - you must be losing a lot of resistance with the over turn.

I was always taught that when the club head was waist high on the backswing, that the toe should be pointing straight up. Is that what you mean by 'fanning'?

I do lose lots of resistance on the overswing, as you can see, my body sort of buckles under the pressure in various places. I'd love to be able to only swing back to 3/4 - but I have no idea how to change my current rhythm and swing length.

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