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Srixon 585 4 iron vs Utility Options


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#1 JFM628

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:31 AM

I am about to place my order for a combo 585/785 set and was wondering what I should do with the 4 iron/22* slot in the bag.

I have not hit all the utilities out there but I have certainly read enough here about them.  With this spot, its 215-220 yard spot in the bag and I am simply looking for forgiveness...don't need to work the ball...need to get it in the air and straight.

Am I picking anything up with the U85?  Other utilities more forgiving?  Crossover?  Or is the difference minimal and I should just match the 585 4 iron.

Any thoughts would be helpful


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:52 AM

I can tell you that the U65 had a higher flight for me than the z565, which was nice for holding greens from the distances you are referencing.  The 85 series might be different though, so you should probably try to hit them under the circumstances they will be used, if at all possible.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:55 AM

If you are looking for forgiveness, no brainer go with a U45/U65/U85 in this spot.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:34 AM

I have 545 irons, 5 - PW but also play the Zu65 4 utility.
GREAT club!

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:43 AM

I have Srixon i506 5-PW and I'm very happy with the U65 4/23 as my "four iron." It doesn't look all that much different from the 4i from my set, but there's a lot more weight down low and the top line is thicker. It really promotes confidence. The ball goes HIGH and straight.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:50 AM

Thanks guys...each one of you confirmed my thoughts...I appreciate the responses.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 12:38 PM

In my experience U85 4 iron flies a touch higher than the 585.  I'm loving my U85.  Good forgiveness for the type of club and a monster off the tee.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 03:03 PM

I have the z765 and went with the u65 in the 4 iron. I ordered mine with the same shaft as the irons.

For me, the u65 works brilliantly and the distances blend perfectly.

Good luck.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 03:18 PM

View Postbeaney, on 07 November 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

I have the z765 and went with the u65 in the 4 iron. I ordered mine with the same shaft as the irons.

For me, the u65 works brilliantly and the distances blend perfectly.

Good luck.

Do you guys hit this club off the deck? I understand itís good off the tee and all.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 03:40 PM

View Posttim583, on 07 November 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

View Postbeaney, on 07 November 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

I have the z765 and went with the u65 in the 4 iron. I ordered mine with the same shaft as the irons.

For me, the u65 works brilliantly and the distances blend perfectly.

Good luck.

Do you guys hit this club off the deck? I understand it’s good off the tee and all.

Absolutely. To be honest I mainly use it off the deck, going in to long par 4s. I just treat it exactly the same as the rest of the 765 set.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 03:54 PM

View Postjohnnypro, on 07 November 2018 - 10:34 AM, said:

I have 545 irons, 5 - PW but also play the Zu65 4 utility.
GREAT club!

Do the utility irons gap into the Z 545 set?  I was noticing that with respect to the Z 585 and utilities, there are only 2 degrees difference between the 585 6 iron and the 5 iron in the utility iron.  I know that the shafts are longer in the utility irons, but the potential gapping issues concerned me.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 04:12 PM

No gapping issues between my 23 degrees U45 and 25 degrees Z765 5 iron
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 06:03 PM

Wish the utilities had a vsole.  Hit down on your irons...except for your utility irons, dont hit down on those.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:31 PM

Do these Srixon utility irons perform out of the rough or is a hybrid a better option?

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 01:39 AM

I carry both a 23 utility iron and a 19 degree hybrid.  If the lie is not ideal I tend to favour the hybrid

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 07:20 AM

Are you guys going with the stock graphite shaft? Or a steel shaft to match the rest of your irons?
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 04:39 PM

I have graphite.  It plays lighter than my irons but I donít mind that.  You get used to it
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 04:41 PM

I went with the same shaft as the irons, simply because it helped the feeling and distances match.
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