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#1 Cart Path Only

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 11:36 AM

Have played Ben Hogan Apex Plus irons (pre-2000 version with Apex 4 flex) for about 2 years now and am looking for something new. I dabbled with the P770s last year but did not like them. The Hogans are starting to show some age but hard to replicate their feel and control. Played with MP-64s this Spring but they were used and had significant wear and tear on the face. May get criticized but the Hogan's felt just as soft as the MP-64s.

Question is if anyone has had similar experience and found irons they enjoyed. Was considering some newer options like the 919 Forged or new Srixon line. I am also intrigued by the new Cobra Forged Tec Black irons. I am a steep iron player/digger and am pretty against bulky irons. In addition to newer clubs, any suggestions on older clubs are also welcomed (newer than Apex's). Also as a former Marine, I have wrestled with the idea of just getting PXG Gen 1's.


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 02:34 PM

Apex Plus to me is all time best irons.  I switch to Adam CB1 many years ago. For older iron, I think CB1 and Adam Xtd are quite similar in feel and look.

PXG Gen 1 is a very good choice also.
Adam 9015D Matrix Red Tie Stiff
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 02:51 PM

Those Apex Pluses are still nice clubs.  I could see why their feel is hard to replicate as they're forged by Endo.
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 03:24 PM

1999 Apex MB is bodacious . You  want comparable GI to Plus's, TM RAC MB is quite easy to get on with. Or Titleist 962B, a fine cast CB of that day.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 03:52 PM

Srixon 745, 765 or 785 would be close I think.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 05:52 PM

The Ben Hogan PTX irons would be the natural choice.

Quality forged , V-sole for diggers , priced right


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 07:36 PM

Just grab another set from the electronic bay dot com. You’ll pay no more than $150.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 12:48 AM

I play the ’99 apex blade, with a backup set of apex edge pros. If those are a little too like-for-like, I found a mizuno MP-30 at my local range to try from the loaner bucket and hit it; felt softer than about anything else I’d ever hit, but I had just made an iron purchase and couldn’t afford another one.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 01:48 AM

View PostNard_S, on 06 November 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

1999 Apex MB is bodacious . You  want comparable GI to Plus's, TM RAC MB is quite easy to get on with. Or Titleist 962B, a fine cast CB of that day.

This is what I did. I had 2006 Hogan Blades that I loved. They started to brown pretty significantly in the center - transitioned to 2005 TM RAC MBs 3-PW with the same shafts and I found them to actually be better and I enjoy them more than any other club I have hit. I’ve got OG Nike Blades, PXG Gen 1s, Hogan Blades, and the TMs and I play the TMs every time. The rest are either wall candy or getting sold. The PXGs were a huge let down to me in feel and performance. I too got the Hero discount which made it worth the shot - I won’t be trying any other PXG irons I don’t think.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 03:02 AM

Wilson V6 - trust me

Ping G400 SFT 10 deg
Titleist 915D2 16.5 deg
Srixon Tour Hybrid 19 deg
Srixon H65 22 deg
Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 4-PW (Nippon 950 GH)
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 11:08 AM

View Postbfp9, on 07 November 2018 - 01:48 AM, said:

View PostNard_S, on 06 November 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

1999 Apex MB is bodacious . You  want comparable GI to Plus's, TM RAC MB is quite easy to get on with. Or Titleist 962B, a fine cast CB of that day.

This is what I did. I had 2006 Hogan Blades that I loved. They started to brown pretty significantly in the center - transitioned to 2005 TM RAC MBs 3-PW with the same shafts and I found them to actually be better and I enjoy them more than any other club I have hit. I’ve got OG Nike Blades, PXG Gen 1s, Hogan Blades, and the TMs and I play the TMs every time. The rest are either wall candy or getting sold. The PXGs were a huge let down to me in feel and performance. I too got the Hero discount which made it worth the shot - I won’t be trying any other PXG irons I don’t think.

Carried the RAC's for many years, hands down best mix of traditional forged feel/performance and GI forgiveness I've come across. Still have them just moved on from shafts of my set.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 11:17 AM

For newer models

Mizuno MP-18 SC's or MMC's (yes my clubs)
Srixon 7 series (there all pretty much the same)
Titleist CB's


Older models
Callaway X forged, the last model, 2013 i think
Cleveland 588 CB's
Adams CB1's
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 05:09 PM

I played Hogan Apex for about 10 years until I decided it was time for a new set of sticks. I went with Mizuno MPH since they felt similar and had virtually the same look from the topline on down. Switch was seamless. Flight was a bit higher but I wanted that.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 12:01 AM

I played a mix set of Hogan Apex Plus (5,6,7) and Apex (8,9,E) for almost 10 years.
This past February I replaced that set with a split set of Mizuno MP-18's.
The MP-18 MMC's shape really reminds me of the Apex Plus, and the feel is amazing. Strongly recommended.
The Mizuno PW shape still looks goofy compared to the Apex/Apex Plus Equalizer.
The Srixon PW shape is better, but I couldn't deny the MP-18's performance.

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 08:17 PM

More of the same, i got a nice set 18 months ago.
Also mainly use MP37 and just bought Ping i15 set to test !

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:00 AM

Stay with Hogans!  PTx are really nice clubs for a really nice price.  And they will build to your specs.

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Posted 17 November 2018 - 07:01 PM

Srixon z745 z765 z785 would be a natural choice
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Posted 17 November 2018 - 07:57 PM

There is no choice here for a Hogan guy.

You must at least try the PTx.  They are essentially a modernized version of the Apex plus.

I’ve been playing them 2 1/2 years.  Great sticks. They have a 2 club demo program.  $20 bucks for two weeks, postage included both ways.
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Posted 17 November 2018 - 11:59 PM

Lightly used Apex Edge Pros ��

All Titliest all the time

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915F 16.5 S blue board
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Posted 18 November 2018 - 03:29 PM

Good timing, I had exactly the same clubs and just changed as they were totally worn out.

Was a hard thing to do as I had used them for the past 7 years, but I tried pretty much everything out there - P790 and i500 I did not feel in control; not enough control or spin and just went too far.

I did not need more distance, but wanted more help with off centre hits - recently got myself some P760; love them so far - they do go very high for me - so I can stop a 4 iron on a dime :)

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 04:42 PM

I would just think about refinishing the apex plus.  Endo forging does feel fantastic!  I always loved my set.
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