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#181 ttm27

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 08:25 PM

Some great options.  Want to try the R-Ball.  Similar shape to White Ice 2 ball v-line which was one of my favorites.


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Posted 06 January 2019 - 09:12 PM

 PeteW, on 06 January 2019 - 07:58 PM, said:

My apologies if this has been asked/answered before. Are these stroke lab shafts the same as those stability putter shafts that Barney Adams is pushing?

It is not. Everything I've read says that it is all about the weighting that makes it different. Removing weight from the middle and pushing it to the club head and grip.

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 09:31 PM

 SherlockGolfer, on 06 January 2019 - 01:09 AM, said:

So is it just the Azalea and Austin being offered LH?? The Vegas slant neck NEEDS to be offered in LH please!
Atlanta, Azalea, Las Vegas, San Diego and Memphis. Vegas Slant neck is not.

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 01:21 PM

 hef63303, on 06 January 2019 - 09:31 PM, said:

 SherlockGolfer, on 06 January 2019 - 01:09 AM, said:

So is it just the Azalea and Austin being offered LH?? The Vegas slant neck NEEDS to be offered in LH please!
Atlanta, Azalea, Las Vegas, San Diego and Memphis. Vegas Slant neck is not.
Well this is the worst news of the day......

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 08:54 PM

Another view of the Vegas...

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 09:56 PM

The Las Vegas looks great! Iím sure fans of the 7 are excited to get one in hand and put it through its paces. As for me, id love to see a fully milled Toulon rendition of the 1w.
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 10:44 PM

These putters definitely have my attention, but the price is pretty steep. I’m liking the Azalea and Vegas. I wish there was going to be a San Francisco in the lineup.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 12:05 AM

I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM

I wish they would refinish in black
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:27 PM

 drbonesvt, on 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

I wish they would refinish in black

I'm not a fan of the black finish.  There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:39 PM

Left-handed Vegas flow neck or we riot!

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 04:33 PM

 delmer, on 10 January 2019 - 12:05 AM, said:

I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.

I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is.  It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:14 PM

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

 delmer, on 10 January 2019 - 12:05 AM, said:

I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.

I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is.  It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.

Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:44 PM

 MSUIRONDAWGS, on 12 January 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

 delmer, on 10 January 2019 - 12:05 AM, said:

I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.

I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is.  It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.

Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.

Yes.  I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side.  Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc.  The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all.  The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it.  By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality.  Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey.  MUCH easier sell.  And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 06:21 PM

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

 MSUIRONDAWGS, on 12 January 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

 delmer, on 10 January 2019 - 12:05 AM, said:

I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.

I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is.  It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.

Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.

Yes.  I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side.  Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc.  The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all.  The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it.  By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality.  Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey.  MUCH easier sell.  And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.

I understand the golf business pretty well.  I could get around the Odyssey branding but they just couldn't resist throwing a plastic medallion on a beautifully milled putter could they?  They did the same thing with the new PM grind wedge.  Got it 97% correct and then just had to throw a little piece of plastic on the back.


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Posted 12 January 2019 - 06:25 PM

 delmer, on 12 January 2019 - 06:21 PM, said:

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

 MSUIRONDAWGS, on 12 January 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

 delmer, on 10 January 2019 - 12:05 AM, said:

I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.

I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is.  It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.

Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.

Yes.  I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side.  Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc.  The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all.  The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it.  By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality.  Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey.  MUCH easier sell.  And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.

I understand the golf business pretty well.  I could get around the Odyssey branding but they just couldn't resist throwing a plastic medallion on a beautifully milled putter could they?  They did the same thing with the new PM grind wedge.  Got it 97% correct and then just had to throw a little piece of plastic on the back.

We are talking about Callaway when it's all said and done.  And if we know anything about Callaway, it's that they will put a plastic badge on virtually everything!

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 07:14 PM

I don't know if I'll buy it, but I'm glad the Vegas has a flow neck and not a slant. I was initially in love with the 7s but, after a while, felt the slant neck was too slanty. I like the flow of the flow neck much better.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 02:05 PM

 delmer, on 11 January 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

 drbonesvt, on 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

I wish they would refinish in black

I'm not a fan of the black finish.  There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.

Be careful, letís no confuse anyone. Odysseyís are painted, Toulonís are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 02:37 PM

My only complaint is Vegasí alignment aid. Too busy.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 03:43 PM

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

 MSUIRONDAWGS, on 12 January 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

 chris975d, on 12 January 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

 delmer, on 10 January 2019 - 12:05 AM, said:

I'm contemplating adding an Azalea to my arsenal but I have to say I'm not a big fan of all the Odyssey branding they added.

I understand that, but as someone that is in the industry and sells golf equipment, the average golfer doesn't know, nor wants whatever a "Toulon" putter is.  It's much easier for Callaway to co-brand Toulon's with Odyssey and build off the back of the brand recognition they've built with Odyssey than it is to try and not do so and try to create brand awareness for what is essentially a totally new brand in Toulon by itself.

Completely agree with this statement. We all have to remember, for the MOST part, WRX'ers are very particular(and ho's!) in what they like and want. Very detail driven and equipment geeks. This doesn't pertain to the average Joe that goes into a big box shop and buys something they pick up off the rack. They know "Odyssey" maybe because of watching Phil on TV and that's what may draw them in. Not the boutique branding with Toulon...And there are WAY more average Joe's than us, hence more revenue for Callaway.

Yes.  I often wish everyone on enthusiast's sites like this could work in the golf industry with us some time and see what it's really like on this side.  Then GolfWRXers would understand why manufacturers market the way they do, why there's not more forged blade offerings or sub-400cc driver heads, why most drivers sit with a closed face, why offset exists, etc.  The extreme enthusiasts of most all hobbies are so far removed from the average participant in that hobby that they really can't relate at all.  The golfing public as a whole has zero idea what a Toulon is or who makes it.  By co-branding with Odyssey, it gets some instant brand awareness that equates to a sense of quality.  Instead of having to sell every single potential customer on the Toulon story, just show them that it's a high end/luxury Odyssey.  MUCH easier sell.  And I sell Odyssey, so I know. LOL.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 03:48 PM

 Ed Settle, on 13 January 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:

 delmer, on 11 January 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

 drbonesvt, on 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

I wish they would refinish in black

I'm not a fan of the black finish.  There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.

Be careful, let's no confuse anyone. Odyssey's are painted, Toulon's are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.

Are you sure about that?  Based on the overspray it sure looks like it's a sprayed finish to me.  It looks a lot like graphite black Cerkote.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 04:18 PM

 delmer, on 13 January 2019 - 03:48 PM, said:

 Ed Settle, on 13 January 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:

 delmer, on 11 January 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

 drbonesvt, on 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

I wish they would refinish in black

I'm not a fan of the black finish.  There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.

Be careful, let's no confuse anyone. Odyssey's are painted, Toulon's are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.

Are you sure about that?  Based on the overspray it sure looks like it's a sprayed finish to me.  It looks a lot like graphite black Cerkote.

Yes, I am 100%. The new finish is Charcoal PVD a process not paint. The same as the other finishes on the other Toulonís. What you are seeing isnít overspray it is where the head is held for the dipped in the tank. Hope that helps.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 05:02 PM

 Ed Settle, on 13 January 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

 delmer, on 13 January 2019 - 03:48 PM, said:

 Ed Settle, on 13 January 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:

 delmer, on 11 January 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

 drbonesvt, on 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

I wish they would refinish in black

I'm not a fan of the black finish.  There's something about a painted finish on a putter that I just don't like.

Be careful, let's no confuse anyone. Odyssey's are painted, Toulon's are not. Black Pearl is a chemical process, not paint.

Are you sure about that?  Based on the overspray it sure looks like it's a sprayed finish to me.  It looks a lot like graphite black Cerkote.

Yes, I am 100%. The new finish is Charcoal PVD a process not paint. The same as the other finishes on the other Toulon's. What you are seeing isn't overspray it is where the head is held for the dipped in the tank. Hope that helps.

There is no dipping in a tank for a PVD process.  Looks exactly like it would if they were applying a coating like CeraKote.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 05:40 PM

I misspoke about PVD being dipped in this finish. But that doesnít mean that it isnít held in a fixture for the PVD process. No where in Toulonís web site and brochures does it ever talk about their finishes being paint.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:13 PM

Rolled the Vegas flow neck this morning....they cannot take my money soon enough. Have played quite a few # 7's over the years but they always had an insert. The looks and feel of the milling was incredible.  The Exo # 7 Mini wasn't bad if you wanted to save a few bucks.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:16 PM

 redrage22, on 13 January 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

Rolled the Vegas flow neck this morning....they cannot take my money soon enough. Have played quite a few # 7's over the years but they always had an insert. The looks and feel of the milling was incredible.  The Exo # 7 Mini wasn't bad if you wanted to save a few bucks.

what is the head size like on the Vegas, smaller #7 profile?
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:21 PM

 Warrick, on 13 January 2019 - 06:16 PM, said:

 redrage22, on 13 January 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

Rolled the Vegas flow neck this morning....they cannot take my money soon enough. Have played quite a few # 7's over the years but they always had an insert. The looks and feel of the milling was incredible.  The Exo # 7 Mini wasn't bad if you wanted to save a few bucks.

what is the head size like on the Vegas, smaller #7 profile?

I want to say smaller than the current O-Works Black/Red line....but it could also be the finish making it appear smaller.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:56 PM

So much talk about the Vegas.  I want some talk/info about the Palm Beach.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:59 PM

 PowerCobra98, on 13 January 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:

So much talk about the Vegas.  I want some talk/info about the Palm Beach.


That is most likely the way I go if I do a Toulon, looks so good with the flow neck.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:04 PM

I’ve loved Toulon putters but they really hurt my heart not making a lefty Vegas slant neck. I don’t want them to go the way of cameron and offer little to noptions for lefties.


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