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Guys that shoot under par. What clubs?


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#1 BiggErn

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Posted 25 October 2018 - 11:22 PM

Just curious what clubs guys use that consistently shoot under par. This is geared toward guys that break par more times than not and I’ll limit the clubs down to just driver and irons.


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Posted 26 October 2018 - 07:21 AM

That break par more than they don't? That's gonna be a relatively small list.
Cobra F8+ 8.5 w/Aldila NV65 Green 2KXV
Callaway Epic Subzero 14* w//Matrix Black Tie 80
Callaway Apex Hybrid 20 w/Diamana D+ 95
Callaway Apex Pro 4-PW w/S300
Callaway MD Forged 52,56,60 w/S300
SGC NorthWood Center Shaft 400g

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 07:47 AM

The man maketh the clubs ;)
Callaway Rogue Driver.
Callaway Big Bertha OS Hybrids (3/4/5)
Callaway Big Bertha OS Irons (6/7/8/9/PW/AW/SW)
Callaway 60* Sureout wedge
Callaway 64* Sureout wedge
Ghost Spider Si 72 Putter
Callaway Super Soft Yellow (White in winter).

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 09:13 AM

5 years ago, When I was actually playing really well (for me) and I was in the +2 handicap range I was playing a set of mizuno mp68 irons.  Sold those for AP2s and never have brought my game back.  I went thru 8 sets of irons over the 3 years after I sold the Mizunos and finally settled on a set of Srixon z965s.  I think those under par days are coming back, my birdies are going up as my proximity to the hole is going thru the roof and itís leading to confidence across my game.  

My big advice to anyone who to score well, find something you are comfortable and confident with and stick with it and donít even think about getting another set.  Once I started to feel comfortable and trust that these Srixons were the right clubs for me then my scores started getting lower

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 09:29 AM

View PostBiggErn, on 25 October 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

Just curious what clubs guys use that consistently shoot under par. This is geared toward guys that break par more times than not and I’ll limit the clubs down to just driver and irons.

Just go to the WITB section in the menu, there are loads of guys in there that regularly shoot under par

Edited by Superbrit, 26 October 2018 - 09:30 AM.

Taylormade M3 440 9.5*
Taylormade M3 3 wood 15*
Adams Proto DHY 21*
Mizuno MP-18 MMC 4-6
Mizuno MP-18 SC 7- 9
Titleist SM7 Jet Black 46/50/56/60
Radius Classic 3

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 09:31 AM

Iíd agree with cb24.   Find some clubs you trust and go play.  Doesnít matter what they are...game improvement, players, etc..
Titleist 917 D3 driver NV blue 70s
Titleist 917 F2 3 wood Diamana S+ 70s
Titleist 818 H2 3 hybrid Atmos Blue 8s
Titleist 718 TMB 3-pw PXi 6.0 or 716 CB 3-pw
Titleist Vokey 50f/56m
Scotty Newport 33" with 10 gram weights

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 10:38 AM

When I take a lesson (which I don't do nearly enough), my instructor can take whatever club I have in my bag and stripe it.
Clubs are fluid

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 11:22 AM

Not shooting under par quite as regularly anymore but still gaming the same equipment.
Driver:Taylor M2 9.5Ē 2016 model with Diamana BF 60TX shaft
Irons: Miura CB1008 with KBS $Taper S+ shafts

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 12:58 PM

I doubt that club choice is as big a factor as quality of strike.

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 01:59 PM

In my case that’d be magic clubs.

Ping G400 Driver 10.5 Regular Alta CB 44.5Ē
Ping G400 13.5 3-Wood Regular Alta CB 42Ē
Titleist 818 H1 18 3-Hybrid Regular Tensei Blue
Titleist 818 H1 23 4-Hybrid Regular Tensei Blue
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Posted 26 October 2018 - 02:11 PM

View Postfarmer, on 26 October 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

I doubt that club choice is as big a factor as quality of strike.

Obviously anyone who shoots under par will be having a lot of quality strikes with whatever clubs they prefer to use.

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 02:55 PM

Just look at what the PGA Tour & Web.com Tour players are playing...

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 01:30 AM

I don't shoot under more often than not, but i shoot under about 20% of the time. I play g400 lst driver with hzrdus black 75 gram in extra stiff. The irons are Bridgestone j15 cb 3-p with x100 shafts.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:27 AM

The only thing that matters is that the clubs are properly fit. When I was playing off a +3, I was playing TA EVO Forged Blades. I have spent the last year trying to find “that” set (I still use my EVO’s for my home practice setup), but I think I have found it with my Callaway Apex CF16’s after gaming the following this year in my search:

Mizuno JPX900 Forged
Ping S55’s
Ping i200’s
Titleist 716AP2’s

Driver: Who needs that kind of negativity in their life...
3 Wood: Callaway BB Alpha 816 w/Aldila Rogue 95MSI 70 Stiff
5 Wood: Callaway BB Alpha 816 w/Aldila Rogue 95MSI 70 Stiff
Hybrid: Adams Idea Tech V4 22 Degrees
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 09:53 AM

Any clubs. I've played them all "searching" for an even better score but they're all the same. I've shot consistently under par with any range of muscleback irons through to chunky cavity backs. I've had great rounds with AP2, Cobra KING Forged Tour, Nike VR Pro blades, Miura Baby Blades, AP1, Callaway MB, etc... You name it I've probably tried it and I've equally shot under par or over par with it too.

I do always tend to gravitate back to Titleist woods though. For me I think it's just a looks and confidence thing. I've hit great shots with any OEM's metal wood range but Titleist always ends up being a fixture in that range of my bag.  

I've come to accept you can never buy a better game, but I still enjoy trying all the new stuff as a side hobby almost. Which is why you'll always see some new stuff from me on the classifieds! :)

EDIT: I should also state I'm currently a +3.1 and at my best years ago I was nearly a +5.

Edited by tgoodspe1991, 28 October 2018 - 09:54 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 09:55 AM

View Postmikpga, on 26 October 2018 - 02:55 PM, said:

Just look at what the PGA Tour & Web.com Tour players are playing...

No, might look at what the players not under contract are playing. But tour players are not comparable to 99.99% of the people here.
Clubs are fluid

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 10:13 AM

View Postmd1m, on 28 October 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

View Postmikpga, on 26 October 2018 - 02:55 PM, said:

Just look at what the PGA Tour & Web.com Tour players are playing...

No, might look at what the players not under contract are playing. But tour players are not comparable to 99.99% of the people here.

Then look at the LPGA Tour. In overall distance and swing speed they are far more comparable to most people on this website.

In their bags you'll see a larger range of club head sizes, lighter weight shafts, more hybrids, etc.

They could crush most of us any day of the week, yet we still go out and demand XX-Flex shafts and 16* 2-irons, lol.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 10:17 AM

View Postandrue, on 26 October 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

The man maketh the clubs ;)
This.

Peter Finch shooting 3 under over 9 with noodle-shaft old charity clubs
https://www.youtube....h?v=NrmZ1v_N0ns
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 10:17 AM

Know a guy that's on his 3rd set of Eye 2's since '83

He plays a game that I'm unfamiliar with...i heard he shot 61 last month
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G400 14.5* Attas 4u
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 10:17 AM

I know a number of scratch players with GI irons and 4 or 5 headcovers in their bags.  Whatever works.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 10:47 AM

View Postsdandrea, on 28 October 2018 - 10:17 AM, said:

I know a number of scratch players with GI irons and 4 or 5 headcovers in their bags.  Whatever works.

When i see a set of irons with just enough headcovers to stop a noisy bag, im actually convinced that person is good.
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 10:52 AM

Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment.  I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it.  I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent.  Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.

Edited by pinestreetgolf, 28 October 2018 - 10:53 AM.

rbz tour 9* & 14.5*, stock ozik shafts
burner rescue 18* & 23*, nippon gh950
j40 dpc 5-pw, s300
vokey sm6 50F 54M 58L, s300
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 11:02 AM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 28 October 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment.  I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it.  I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent.  Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.
But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit.  me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around.  I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.
g400 lst 9* | Black 75 6.5
f8 14.5* | Black 75 6.5
f8 18.5* | Black 75 6.5
tour preferred UDI 3 iron | Black 105 6.5
jpx900tour 4-PW | TT DG X100
hi-toe 52*9 | TT DG X100
56*8 | TT DG X100
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 11:09 AM

View Postextrastiff, on 28 October 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 28 October 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment.  I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it.  I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent.  Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.
But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit.  me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around.  I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.


I was just curious about the topic. I’m not looking for input on my equipment based on what a very good player on here may use. Obviously you can look at tour pros and see what they use but I was just curious what a good recreational golfer who plays a couple times a week or in local events is using.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 11:15 AM

View PostBiggErn, on 28 October 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

View Postextrastiff, on 28 October 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 28 October 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment.  I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it.  I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent.  Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.
But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit.  me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around.  I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.


I was just curious about the topic. I’m not looking for input on my equipment based on what a very good player on here may use. Obviously you can look at tour pros and see what they use but I was just curious what a good recreational golfer who plays a couple times a week or in local events is using.
For sure I was not trying to troll.. My equip in my signature that y i didnt mention, sorry!

Im really in to the baffler stuff for whatever reason. and the PX hazrdus black shaft.  Im creepily into that model actually, i want a set for irons.

g400 lst 9* | Black 75 6.5
f8 14.5* | Black 75 6.5
f8 18.5* | Black 75 6.5
tour preferred UDI 3 iron | Black 105 6.5
jpx900tour 4-PW | TT DG X100
hi-toe 52*9 | TT DG X100
56*8 | TT DG X100
62*5 | KBS hi-rev 2.0 115
Columbus

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 11:26 AM

View Postextrastiff, on 28 October 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

View PostBiggErn, on 28 October 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

View Postextrastiff, on 28 October 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 28 October 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Sure, individual skill is paramount, but the difference between 72 and 70 could very well come down to equipment.  I can't hit a driver without a ton of offset, and my trusty G10 has a massive amount of it.  I've only shot four sixties rounds in my life so I'm not the guy the OP is referring to here, but everyone always talks in binary like equipment is either irrelevant or super-important. Like everything else in golf, its player dependent.  Sure, there are guys who can shoot great scores with anything but there are also guys (especially on the putting green) who can't.
But the OP is asking about guys that consistently can hit <72, and i dont believe equipment would change that. As long as they are fit to the player, im pretty positive + handi's will stay +. I dont shoot under much but i switching to different brands, shapes, models, years, would not add 4 strokes to my game all of a sudden.As long as they are fit.  me and others i play with are always exchanging clubs to test out, mess around.  I don't usually hit these shots much worse than my own equip.


I was just curious about the topic. I’m not looking for input on my equipment based on what a very good player on here may use. Obviously you can look at tour pros and see what they use but I was just curious what a good recreational golfer who plays a couple times a week or in local events is using.
For sure I was not trying to troll.. My equip in my signature that y i didnt mention, sorry!

Im really in to the baffler stuff for whatever reason. and the PX hazrdus black shaft.  Im creepily into that model actually, i want a set for irons.


All good. I didn’t take it that you were.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 11:39 AM

I've played with a few guys who were scratch or a bit better, the bags vary quite a bit.  One played R9 TP B, irons and a SLDR, another played old TM Tour Preferred blades from the 80s, with a component driver.  Another had full Titleist bag, complete with 690 blades.  If they're lower trajectory players, might see a hybrid or two.

Kind of all over the place.  :)

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Driver:  Cobra King LTD, HZRDUS 75 6.5, 44.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, Motore F1 85 X, 42.5"
1 iron:  Maxfli Revolution, DGS400
2-PW, Golden Ram Tour Grind, Dynamic S
SW:  Acer XB 58*, DGS300 tipped
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.5", PP58 midsize grip
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#28 Jagpilotohio

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 12:09 PM

Agree with tgood.  It really doesnít matter much. You just have to like the clubs and get used to them.

Iíve been as low as +2 and currently 1.2 with extremely poor putting since I started wearing glasses for distance a few years ago. .  I Canít read anything anymore but I still hit 12+ greens in regulation on average and shoot par or better about 30% of the time.

I played Mizuno MSX Midsize cavity back irons with custom Daiwa graphite shafts from 1993 until 2015. Those XX Daiwa graphites were eventually just too stiff and I looked for a new set.  I found my Hoganís 3 years ago.  Love at first swing.  Loved the look, the shape, the feel. Since then Iíve been using Hogan PTx with KBS TourV in 120x. Various ping and vokey wedges.  Now using glide 2ís and a vokey 60m lob wedge.

Driver has varied over time.  Big Bertha in the 90ís. 400 and 460 Cleveland titanium launchers in the 2000ís until 3 years ago.  Cobra LTD to 917 d3 and back  to LTD this summer. Iím still using an original Grafalloy Blue in my LTD  that I used in my 460 launcher since 2006. I know the shaft like an old glove.  It works for me.  I have back ups  in the basement in case it breaks.

I believe the most important thing, besides being fit properly with the correct shafts and lie angles, is to love the look and feel of your clubs and committ 100% to them for a significant  period of time.  It is so important to simply GET USED TO YOUR CLUBS.

Too many people on this site actually seem to think there is a significant difference between different irons of the same category.  There isnít.  All the top irons perform essentially the same anymore if they are fit to you.  You canít buy a game. I know that doesnít fit many peopleís mindset on this site, but changing irons constantly is absolutely hurting your scoring.

Edited by Jagpilotohio, 29 October 2018 - 10:57 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 02:09 PM

View Post"THE GREEK", on 28 October 2018 - 01:30 AM, said:

I don't shoot under more often than not, but i shoot under about 20% of the time. I play g400 lst driver with hzrdus black 75 gram in extra stiff. The irons are Bridgestone j15 cb 3-p with x100 shafts.

This is why I hate playing in every Member/guest. Guy shoots under par 20% of time and is a 4 handicap.
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 03:48 PM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 28 October 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Agree with tgood.  It really doesn’t matter much. You just have to like the clubs and get used to them.

I’ve been as low as +2 and currently 1.2 with extremely poor putting since I started wearing glasses for distance a few years ago. .  I Can’t read anything anymore but I still hit 12+ greens in regulation on average and shoot par or better about 30% of the time.

I played Mizuno MSX Midsize cavity back irons with custom Daiwa graphite shafts from 1993 until 2015. Those XX Daiwa graphites were eventually just too stiff and I looked for a new set.  I found my Hogan’s 3 years ago.  Love at first swing.  Loved the look, the shape, the feel. Since then I’ve been using Hogan PTx with KBS TourV in 120x. Various ping and vokey wedges.  Now using glide 2’s and a vokey 60m lob wedge.

Driver has varied over time.  Big Bertha in the 90’s. 400 and 460 Cleveland titanium launchers in the 2000’s until 3 years ago.  Cobra LTD to 917 d3 and back  to LTD this summer.

I believe the most important thing, besides being fit properly with the correct shafts and lie angles, is to love the look and feel of your clubs and committ 100% to them for a significant  period of time.  It is so important to simply GET USED TO YOUR CLUBS.

Too many people on this site actually seem to think there is a significant difference between different irons of the same category.  There isn’t.  All the top irons perform essentially the same anymore if they are fit to you.  You can’t buy a game. I know that doesn’t fit many people’s mindset on this site, but changing irons constantly is absolutely hurting your scoring.  

If this is true wouldn’t changing a good players clubs hurt their score? Or do only bad players need to be used to their clubs?

I agree with this post btw. I totally disagree with the “a good player is just as good with anything” crowd. Usually the people in that crowd are not good players. It’s just as important, good or bad, especially in wind or soggy conditions.

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