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3 wins in a row for mizuno


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#1 bogeypro

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 08:41 PM

If I'm remembering correctly, there have been mizuno irons in the bags of winners for the last 3 weeks.  very good showing!

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:09 PM

Could be.... not gonna lie... I have been looking for some good condition Mizzys on the cheap...   is that why I am having the itch??
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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:10 PM

Mizuno has made quite the comeback in the last couple of years.
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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:11 PM

I can see Mizuno having a stellar year with iron sales. They offer great feel and are not over priced like a lot of the irons out there!
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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:33 PM

 bogeypro, on 21 October 2018 - 08:41 PM, said:

If I'm remembering correctly, there have been mizuno irons in the bags of winners for the last 3 weeks.  very good showing!
Not last week. Marc Leishman won and he played Callaway X-Forged irons.


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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:40 PM

 grm24, on 21 October 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

 bogeypro, on 21 October 2018 - 08:41 PM, said:

If I'm remembering correctly, there have been mizuno irons in the bags of winners for the last 3 weeks.  very good showing!
Not last week. Marc Leishman won and he played Callaway X-Forged irons.


Eddie P won in Europe with the new 919T last week.
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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:44 PM

 Warrick, on 21 October 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

 grm24, on 21 October 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

 bogeypro, on 21 October 2018 - 08:41 PM, said:

If I'm remembering correctly, there have been mizuno irons in the bags of winners for the last 3 weeks.  very good showing!
Not last week. Marc Leishman won and he played Callaway X-Forged irons.


Eddie P won in Europe with the new 919T last week.
Got it. I thought the OP was speaking of the PGA Tour events.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM

Yea, they are doing great.  Its amazing as much as say PXG bragging about their products (don't get me wrong, I like their stuff just overpriced for the performance for me), and there is Mizuno just winning and winning without paying anyone.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 10:31 PM

Go do a deep dive, 10 years at least, and then come up with statistically valid information.

No dog in the fight, but to just do a feel good snapshot doesn't mean anything.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 10:57 PM

 MuskieCy, on 21 October 2018 - 10:31 PM, said:

Go do a deep dive, 10 years at least, and then come up with statistically valid information.

No dog in the fight, but to just do a feel good snapshot doesn't mean anything.

I get your point, but one might argue that 10 or even 3 year old data is irrelevant due to new releases and different offerings from all parties now compared to then. In other words, mizuno could be superior now regardless of whether it was superior 10 years ago.

I'm just playing devils advocate. I don't think anyone is superior to anyone else.  Wins are about players, not about equipment.

I do think it's impressive to get tour use without paying for it and the amount of free agents that go with Mizuno is pretty impressive.  Almost better publicity than signing big stars.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 05:43 AM

Mizuno seems to have benefited pretty well from Nike's hard goods exit.   A number of their recent wins have come from former Nike staffers.
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Posted 22 October 2018 - 06:43 AM

A definite resurgence. And rightly so. Still made in Japan by craftsmen unlike so many other "premium" offerings.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 06:44 AM

Nothing against all the Mizuno love, but the players won the events, not the clubs.
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Posted 22 October 2018 - 07:48 AM

Mizuno seems to be the go to choice for players that just got out of an equipment contract. When money isn't involved, they seem to be the pros iron of choice.
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Posted 22 October 2018 - 07:58 AM

Brooks could have won with a set of shovels and a broken broomstick handle for a putter. The dude was on fire.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 08:04 AM

 sdandrea, on 22 October 2018 - 06:44 AM, said:

Nothing against all the Mizuno love, but the players won the events, not the clubs.
I think that you are missing the point. The players who are winning, that have the freedom to choose what they want, seem to be choosing mizuno more often.
Would they have won had they been playing tm....likely.....but maybe not....well never know :)
Would they have won playing pxg....nah


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 11:38 AM

 Z1ggy16, on 22 October 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

Brooks could have won with a set of shovels and a broken broomstick handle for a putter. The dude was on fire.

there is no way he could have won like that.....   Honestly...the reason for the thread is to emphasize if a player has a choice.....many times they choose Mizuno....it's that simple...and why gearheads flock to the shelves..

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 12:26 PM

Don't really understand mizuno haters, sure its them as a player with their skill, BUT at the end of they day they choose to put trust in that set of irons to make their livelihood. That does speak volumes. There are many forged playerss clubs out there, but IMO Mizzy makes the best ones at the best price too.
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Posted 22 October 2018 - 01:12 PM

Pretty tough to see it any other way

What you can play and choose to play aren't same thing...golf being such a mental sport this can make all the difference in the world

Edited by dunn, 22 October 2018 - 01:13 PM.


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 01:16 PM

 Sir edward of putternut, on 22 October 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

 sdandrea, on 22 October 2018 - 06:44 AM, said:

Nothing against all the Mizuno love, but the players won the events, not the clubs.
I think that you are missing the point. The players who are winning, that have the freedom to choose what they want, seem to be choosing mizuno more often.
Would they have won had they been playing tm....likely.....but maybe not....well never know :)
Would they have won playing pxg....nah

That point makes perfect sense.  Agree.  I went back and read the original post and it still sounds like a Mizuno ad.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 09:34 PM

The truth is...The majority of the time if the player is a free agent, he has TM woods, Mizuno irons and vokey wedges in the bag. It started with one or two and now there is probably 10.
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Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:35 AM

I was told that the 919 tour was designed closely with Koepka but I wonder why he isnít bagging them. The looks On the new line is great. Hopefully they do a good job kicking offf the line of woods.
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Posted 23 October 2018 - 06:45 AM

 kiwii, on 23 October 2018 - 04:35 AM, said:

I was told that the 919 tour was designed closely with Koepka but I wonder why he isnít bagging them. The looks On the new line is great. Hopefully they do a good job kicking offf the line of woods.

He just won 3 majors in 16 months... why would he or should he change?  I'm being serious....nothing to gain despite his input unless there was a weakness in the 900 tour ...i.e. toe shape, top line etc.... but like Tiger with his Scotty, Brooks has become synonymous with JPX900 Tour irons!

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 08:35 AM

Anyone throwing out any opposition is simply trying to defend and justify their allegiance to another brand.  The mizuno feel does inspire confidence, it just does.  Would these guys win with any clubs?  Sure, but that hardly needs to be stated here.  It's not a revelation.  The fact is Mizuno makes superior feeling irons to all other big name manufacturers.  This statement is validated by the number of pros who in between contracts decide to bag them.  It speaks volumes to the quality of their irons and their is no disputing that.  Will they ever pay big names to bag their stuff?  Probably not.  But with quality being what it is, do they really have to?  It's almost better for us fan boys that they don't.  Keeps it more of a niche brand at a great price.  I'm often the only guy in the foursome playing mizuno irons and i kinda like it that way.  But when someone asks to try my irons out, they almost always want to go buy a set!
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Posted 23 October 2018 - 09:31 AM

 Jlopicco23, on 23 October 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

Anyone throwing out any opposition is simply trying to defend and justify their allegiance to another brand.  The mizuno feel does inspire confidence, it just does.  Would these guys win with any clubs?  Sure, but that hardly needs to be stated here.  It's not a revelation.  The fact is Mizuno makes superior feeling irons to all other big name manufacturers.  This statement is validated by the number of pros who in between contracts decide to bag them.  It speaks volumes to the quality of their irons and their is no disputing that.  Will they ever pay big names to bag their stuff?  Probably not.  But with quality being what it is, do they really have to?  It's almost better for us fan boys that they don't.  Keeps it more of a niche brand at a great price.  I'm often the only guy in the foursome playing mizuno irons and i kinda like it that way.  But when someone asks to try my irons out, they almost always want to go buy a set!

While I tend to agree with your statement feel is subjective so inherently cant be fact. If I wasnt a Ping fanboy I'd probably play Mizzy irons but honestly the total package of what Ping offers in terms of forgiveness, feel and play-ability inspires more confidence in me than a pured Mizuno iron. Now while that feeling does make a tuning fork go off in my loin I wouldn't say it necessarily inspires confidence. I think there is also something to be said for Japanese craftsmanship. their attention to detail and manufacturing tolerances are head and shoulders above the rest. Same can be said for tennis equipment.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:01 PM

That is fine, what inspires confidence for you might be different than me.  I won't turn this into a Mizzy vs Ping debate, there is no contest.  From a feel perspective it's not even in the same universe.  You are right about Japanese craftmanship though!

 drvrwdge, on 23 October 2018 - 09:31 AM, said:

 Jlopicco23, on 23 October 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

Anyone throwing out any opposition is simply trying to defend and justify their allegiance to another brand.  The mizuno feel does inspire confidence, it just does.  Would these guys win with any clubs?  Sure, but that hardly needs to be stated here.  It's not a revelation.  The fact is Mizuno makes superior feeling irons to all other big name manufacturers.  This statement is validated by the number of pros who in between contracts decide to bag them.  It speaks volumes to the quality of their irons and their is no disputing that.  Will they ever pay big names to bag their stuff?  Probably not.  But with quality being what it is, do they really have to?  It's almost better for us fan boys that they don't.  Keeps it more of a niche brand at a great price.  I'm often the only guy in the foursome playing mizuno irons and i kinda like it that way.  But when someone asks to try my irons out, they almost always want to go buy a set!

While I tend to agree with your statement feel is subjective so inherently cant be fact. If I wasnt a Ping fanboy I'd probably play Mizzy irons but honestly the total package of what Ping offers in terms of forgiveness, feel and play-ability inspires more confidence in me than a pured Mizuno iron. Now while that feeling does make a tuning fork go off in my loin I wouldn't say it necessarily inspires confidence. I think there is also something to be said for Japanese craftsmanship. their attention to detail and manufacturing tolerances are head and shoulders above the rest. Same can be said for tennis equipment.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:03 PM

Bottom line, players won the events and Mizuno makes quality clubs respectively.
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Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:05 PM

Players who don’t have a contractual obligation choosing Mizuno irons does speak volumes. They are relying on these clubs for their livelihoods. Simlilar to a special operations soldier using specific tools (guns, knives, etc) when they can have anything they want.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:11 PM

 deep18, on 23 October 2018 - 12:05 PM, said:

Players who don’t have a contractual obligation choosing Mizuno irons does speak volumes. They are relying on these clubs for their livelihoods. Simlilar to a special operations soldier using specific tools (guns, knives, etc) when they can have anything they want.

I see it another way.  The pros don't want to play another OEM for "free" so they play Miz.  Probably some butt-hurt.   For example, if TM or Callaway or Titliest or x isn't going to pay me, I'm not going to play them.  I'll play something else.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:28 PM

 LeoLeo99, on 23 October 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

 deep18, on 23 October 2018 - 12:05 PM, said:

Players who don’t have a contractual obligation choosing Mizuno irons does speak volumes. They are relying on these clubs for their livelihoods. Simlilar to a special operations soldier using specific tools (guns, knives, etc) when they can have anything they want.

I see it another way.  The pros don't want to play another OEM for "free" so they play Miz.  Probably some butt-hurt.   For example, if TM or Callaway or Titliest or x isn't going to pay me, I'm not going to play them.  I'll play something else.

Perhaps.  But most of them at the end of the day, are going to use whatever will help them play their best and as a result, bank the most money.  Most, if not all of the guys playing Mizuno irons right now, could get a deal with most if not all of the big boys if they chose to.


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