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#61 Tzoid

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 04:13 PM

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Turned pro and signed with Callaway and was never the "winner" we hope he would be.
David Leadbetter ruined him.  Hasn't been the same since.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 04:42 PM

Greg Norman, Michelle Wie, Lydia Ko, to name three.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 05:08 PM

View Postrgk5, on 07 November 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

Greg Norman, Michelle Wie, Lydia Ko, to name three.

Wie tinkers too much with her swing and ko let her dad get in her head about getting flatter and interfered to many times during lessons. Her fall off had nothing to do with leabetter ather her desire to gain distance and not being able to tell parents no

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 06:01 PM

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I have to ask, why would anyone care?  He's invisible.

This is a fanatical golf site. We care about everything and everyone.

You guys need to go outside :)

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 06:24 PM

View PostGoGoErky, on 07 November 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

View Postrgk5, on 07 November 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

Greg Norman, Michelle Wie, Lydia Ko, to name three.

Wie tinkers too much with her swing and ko let her dad get in her head about getting flatter and interfered to many times during lessons. Her fall off had nothing to do with leabetter ather her desire to gain distance and not being able to tell parents no

Regardless, all were world class BEFORE going to Leadbetter.  Since then?

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 07:37 PM

View PostThe Mad Bomber, on 07 November 2018 - 06:01 PM, said:

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View PostAnser, on 07 November 2018 - 02:23 PM, said:

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View PostAnser, on 07 November 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

I have to ask, why would anyone care?  He's invisible.

This is a fanatical golf site. We care about everything and everyone.

You guys need to go outside :)

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 07:39 PM

View Postrgk5, on 07 November 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

View PostGoGoErky, on 07 November 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

View Postrgk5, on 07 November 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

Greg Norman, Michelle Wie, Lydia Ko, to name three.

Wie tinkers too much with her swing and ko let her dad get in her head about getting flatter and interfered to many times during lessons. Her fall off had nothing to do with leabetter ather her desire to gain distance and not being able to tell parents no

Regardless, all were world class BEFORE going to Leadbetter.  Since then?

And Lydia won under leadbetter ave wasnít until dad got too involved and she lost her swing as a result. Wie didnít really win much before leadbetter

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 10:02 AM

View PostGoGoErky, on 07 November 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 07 November 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I'll put my nickel on CBs with a T-MB long iron or two.

Always love seeing what CHIII is playing.  Dude is such a gearhead.

If he plays CBs he will be one of the only tour players doing so. Sometimes I wonder why titleist still makes them when they aren't a big seller to the public abd have minimal tour use.
Not necessarily true... here are just a few of the top players and recent winners WITB............

Kyle Stanley    Titleist 718 CB 4&5.... Nike pro combo 6-PW

John Rahm (4): TaylorMade RSi UDI; (4-PW): TaylorMade P750

Billy Horschel   (3, 5-PW): PXG 0311T Gen2... hollow body.. not a true blade

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Bryson DeChambeau   Cobra King One Length Utility (4 and 5 iron), Cobra King One Length (6-PW)

none of which are blades... even the PXG which looks like a blade is hollow perimeter weighted and foam filled,,, so it seems like more forgiving irons are popular on tour as well as with us hackers...remember.. those guys can and do play the irons that they believe are the best for their games.    Just a bit of FYI.... not meant to criticize in any way.....
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 11:07 AM

I think he meant that not many Titleist staffers choose to play the CB model.  They tend to gravitate towards either the MBs or the AP2s.

ETA: One thing I like about Titleist is they seem more okay than most when it comes to staffers playing older clubs.  E.g., Spieth just went back to 915 woods this week and there are still a few big names playing 680s.

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 12:51 PM

I might die if Charlie comes out with some 680 MBís and a few SM4s


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 01:06 PM

View PostCStephenson17, on 08 November 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

I might die if Charlie comes out with some 680 MB's and a few SM4s

lol.  I wonder if he has a set of these in the garage.  Lots of staffers used to play these beauties.  Maybe CHIII can bring them back!

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 01:06 PM

View Postjmck, on 08 November 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

I think he meant that not many Titleist staffers choose to play the CB model.  They tend to gravitate towards either the MBs or the AP2s.

ETA: One thing I like about Titleist is they seem more okay than most when it comes to staffers playing older clubs.  E.g., Spieth just went back to 915 woods this week and there are still a few big names playing 680s.

This was actually what I was going to say after reading that post. I'm not sure I have ever seen anybody playing a full set of CBs though have seen some combo sets at the Am level. Most seem to be confident enough to just go full MB or move to something like the AP2 or T-MB these days though.

It has always amazed me how many of the bigger name Titleist staffers seem to play older stuff. Granted, they seem happy to let them do it so long as you have the newest head covers on the woods regardless of what you are actually playing. Maybe that's some of the lower pay for their staffers, but I certainly don't know that for sure.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 01:47 PM

View Postjmck, on 08 November 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

I think he meant that not many Titleist staffers choose to play the CB model.  They tend to gravitate towards either the MBs or the AP2s.

ETA: One thing I like about Titleist is they seem more okay than most when it comes to staffers playing older clubs.  E.g., Spieth just went back to 915 woods this week and there are still a few big names playing 680s.

Being the analytical a** I can be I decided to do a bit of research..... of the top 222 players in the OWGR 147 of them play Titleist equipment of some type (mostly balls) and of them 41 play Titleist irons... of the 41 playing titleist irons 15 play blades (36.5%) the rest play perimeter weighted irons of some type... sorry it is just my OCD taking over and I can't resist knowing what is going on out there.... so be it as it may these are the results of my 45 minutes screwing around on Titleist's website... thanks for reading my crazy post but , hey, it is what it is..... Peace
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 01:56 PM

View Postgeno4952, on 08 November 2018 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostGoGoErky, on 07 November 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 07 November 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I'll put my nickel on CBs with a T-MB long iron or two.

Always love seeing what CHIII is playing.  Dude is such a gearhead.

If he plays CBs he will be one of the only tour players doing so. Sometimes I wonder why titleist still makes them when they aren't a big seller to the public abd have minimal tour use.
Not necessarily true... here are just a few of the top players and recent winners WITB............

Kyle Stanley    Titleist 718 CB 4&5.... Nike pro combo 6-PW    

John Rahm     (4): TaylorMade RSi UDI; (4-PW): TaylorMade P750

Billy Horschel   (3, 5-PW): PXG 0311T Gen2... hollow body.. not a true blade

Patrick Cantlay  (4-PW): Titleist 718 AP2    

Jordan Spieth   (4-PW): Titleist 718 AP2

Cameron Champ  Ping iBlade (4-PW)   (not a true blade)

Xander Schauffele  Callaway Forged Prototype (4-PW)

Brooks Koepka   JPX-900 Tour (4-PW)

Marc Leishman   Callaway X-Forged 2018

Bryson DeChambeau      Cobra King One Length Utility (4 and 5 iron), Cobra King One Length (6-PW)

none of which are blades... even the PXG which looks like a blade is hollow perimeter weighted and foam filled,,, so it seems like more forgiving irons are popular on tour as well as with us hackers...remember.. those guys can and do play the irons that they believe are the best for their games.    Just a bit of FYI.... not meant to criticize in any way.....

Thanks for the if but the conversation about CB was referring specifically to the titleist CB irons and not the style of iron. Which as you see in your examples titleist staffers rarely play that lineup

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:01 PM

View Postgeno4952, on 08 November 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 08 November 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

I think he meant that not many Titleist staffers choose to play the CB model.  They tend to gravitate towards either the MBs or the AP2s.

ETA: One thing I like about Titleist is they seem more okay than most when it comes to staffers playing older clubs.  E.g., Spieth just went back to 915 woods this week and there are still a few big names playing 680s.

Being the analytical a** I can be I decided to do a bit of research..... of the top 222 players in the OWGR 147 of them play Titleist equipment of some type (mostly balls) and of them 41 play Titleist irons... of the 41 playing titleist irons 15 play blades (36.5%) the rest play perimeter weighted irons of some type... sorry it is just my OCD taking over and I can't resist knowing what is going on out there.... so be it as it may these are the results of my 45 minutes screwing around on Titleist's website... thanks for reading my crazy post but , hey, it is what it is..... Peace

While you were doing all that did you happen to add up how many staffers each play the T-mb and the CB and the AP1/2/3s?


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:58 AM

View Postjmck, on 08 November 2018 - 02:01 PM, said:

View Postgeno4952, on 08 November 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 08 November 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

I think he meant that not many Titleist staffers choose to play the CB model.  They tend to gravitate towards either the MBs or the AP2s.

ETA: One thing I like about Titleist is they seem more okay than most when it comes to staffers playing older clubs.  E.g., Spieth just went back to 915 woods this week and there are still a few big names playing 680s.

Being the analytical a** I can be I decided to do a bit of research..... of the top 222 players in the OWGR 147 of them play Titleist equipment of some type (mostly balls) and of them 41 play Titleist irons... of the 41 playing titleist irons 15 play blades (36.5%) the rest play perimeter weighted irons of some type... sorry it is just my OCD taking over and I can't resist knowing what is going on out there.... so be it as it may these are the results of my 45 minutes screwing around on Titleist's website... thanks for reading my crazy post but , hey, it is what it is..... Peace

While you were doing all that did you happen to add up how many staffers each play the T-mb and the CB and the AP1/2/3s?

not exactly but of the 15 playing blades most of them were the T-MBs with a few exceptions and of the other 26 many of them play the AP 2 &3 but that is still a perimeter weighted iron not a true mb blade... if you want exact numbers the info is all available on Titleist's website. Look up the tour players and the ones that are Brand Ambassadors play the equipment as well as the balls........ Peace
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Posted 16 November 2018 - 01:21 PM

Love CH3 and love Titleist.  Hate PXG.  Big win for me.. :taunt:

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 01:22 PM

Do we have a WITB yet?

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 02:03 PM

View Postjmck, on 16 November 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

Do we have a WITB yet?

Jonathan wall posted on Twitter last night.

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 02:25 PM

View Posttbowles411, on 16 October 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

Chuck The Sticks is a club ho.  He switches when something is better for him and makes no apologies for it.  He's not beholden to anyone.  So if he switched, it wouldn't be shocking.

He is a golf wrx-er club ho, but really, really good.


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Posted 16 November 2018 - 02:39 PM

View PostGoGoErky, on 16 November 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 16 November 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

Do we have a WITB yet?

Jonathan wall posted on Twitter last night.

Ah, thanks for that.  No word on shafts.  Here's from that tweet.  He's gone with a combo set of AP2s and CBs, lol.  Such a gear head, always throwing us a curveball.

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 02:42 PM

View PostGoGoErky, on 16 November 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 16 November 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

Do we have a WITB yet?

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Jonathan wall posted on Twitter last night.

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 02:50 PM

View PostJackpotJohnny, on 16 October 2018 - 09:43 PM, said:

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View Postdbleag, on 16 October 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

Turned pro and signed with Callaway and was never the "winner" we hope he would be.
David Leadbetter ruined him.  Hasn't been the same since.

Ledbetter ruins everyone

I'm hardly a Leadbetter disciple (the "A Swing") but if you were to ask Nick Price, Ernie Else and Nick Faldo about Leadbetter, they might tend to disagree a bit.

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 02:58 PM

View PostJordan Speeth, on 07 November 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

While it's true that he's listed on Titleist's Tour page, it's just for the Pro V1 at this point.  As far as I know, he's always used the Pro V.  I'm going to bet that he uses the AP2/3 irons, with the AP3 3 and 4 irons.  Oddly, as one of the world's foremost ball strikers, he seems to gravitate toward GI clubs.

In the very entertaining "Gear Dive" GolfWRX podcast, Charles states that he really wanted to play for Mike Holder at Oklahoma State.  Holder told his golfers that "You can play with any clubs you want as long as they're cavity backs.  When you AVERAGE 68 shots a round, you are free to switch to blades if you like."  Perhaps that explains Howell's affinity for cavity-back clubs.  Holder wanted his team of All-Americans to play CB's because he knew that that model would help them play their best.

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 03:08 PM

View Postsllabflog, on 16 November 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Love CH3 and love Titleist.  Hate PXG.  Big win for me.. :taunt:

That was funny.  Why, exactly I'm not quite sure.  :derisive:


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Posted 17 November 2018 - 10:13 AM

View Postjmck, on 16 November 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

View PostGoGoErky, on 16 November 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

View Postjmck, on 16 November 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

Do we have a WITB yet?

Jonathan wall posted on Twitter last night.

Ah, thanks for that.  No word on shafts.  Here's from that tweet.  He's gone with a combo set of AP2s and CBs, lol.  Such a gear head, always throwing us a curveball.

TS3 (10.5) driver / TS2 (15, 21) / 718 T-MB 4-iron / 718 AP2 (5-7) / 718 CB (8-PW) / Vokey Design SM7 (52, 56, 60). Using Pro V1 proto for first time this week.

Checked Getty Images..he's putting with a red Spider Tour with a standard sized grip.
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Titleist 917 F2 Diamana Red 60
Titleist 818 H1 21* Tensei Red
TaylorMade P790 DG 105
Titleist Vokey SM5 50*, 60*
Titleist Vokey SM6 56*
Ping Sigma G Craz-E
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Posted 17 November 2018 - 06:57 PM

View PostBenSeattle, on 16 November 2018 - 02:58 PM, said:

View PostJordan Speeth, on 07 November 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

While it's true that he's listed on Titleist's Tour page, it's just for the Pro V1 at this point.  As far as I know, he's always used the Pro V.  I'm going to bet that he uses the AP2/3 irons, with the AP3 3 and 4 irons.  Oddly, as one of the world's foremost ball strikers, he seems to gravitate toward GI clubs.

In the very entertaining "Gear Dive" GolfWRX podcast, Charles states that he really wanted to play for Mike Holder at Oklahoma State.  Holder told his golfers that "You can play with any clubs you want as long as they're cavity backs.  When you AVERAGE 68 shots a round, you are free to switch to blades if you like."  Perhaps that explains Howell's affinity for cavity-back clubs.  Holder wanted his team of All-Americans to play CB's because he knew that that model would help them play their best.

Tell that to the 7 handicappers playing blades on the equipment forum.
Titleist TS3 8.5 Stiff Project X Even Flow White T1100
Titleist 915Fd 15 Stiff Rogue Black
Titleist 915Hd 17.5 Stiff Diamana S+
Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW Stiff KBS Tour
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Posted 17 November 2018 - 06:58 PM

They zoomed in when he hit a mud-ball wedge from 144 and it looked like a Titleist CB PW

He has the golf equipment addiction disease, like most of us around here, so I always like seeing what he has in the bag.
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Callaway Apex Pro 16 (4-PW), KBS Tour-V 120x
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Posted 17 November 2018 - 07:04 PM

View PostBenSeattle, on 16 November 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

View Postsllabflog, on 16 November 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Love CH3 and love Titleist.  Hate PXG.  Big win for me.. :taunt:

That was funny.  Why, exactly I'm not quite sure.  :derisive:


Wanna throw a Turd in the Punch Bowl ???  Start a new Topic called "  What Players can't win after switching to PXG ?  :busted_cop:

Edited by Tzoid, 17 November 2018 - 07:06 PM.

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Ping G400 3 Wood Aldila Rogue Silver 110 M.S.I. 70
Ping G25 20 & Anser 23 Hybrid
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Posted 17 November 2018 - 07:33 PM

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Callaway XR16 driver, 9 degrees, Diamana S+ shaft
Callaway Epic Subzero 13.5, Mitsubishi Fubuki Z 65
Ping G10 5 wood, Ping shaft - only CAD$49 looks brand new!
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