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#1 ObiwanForAll

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:36 AM

Ok so here is the story....

I've been playing my driver at 44.5" in length. The idea was to get more control but I tend to miss left and it got worse the shorter the driver became.

I went to a fitting at Club Champion and 44.5" driver did indeed close the face by about -5 degrees (drastic). We increased the shaft length and each 1/4" was getting closer to 0 degrees. When we reached 45.5" I was at 0 degrees face and 0 degrees club path. Perfect, and I've never driven the ball better.

This got me thinking....if I'm playing my driver longer than standard.....should all my clubs be longer than standard? Or is each category (fairway woods, irons, wedges) fitted independently?

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#2 Stuart G.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:47 AM

Was the swing weight (or shaft weight) adjusted as you went shorter?    It's good you're getting good results - and that's all that really matters - but weight issues would be a much more likely candidate for why the left miss got worse than the playing length really being to blame.  e.g. I'm guessing you don't have to play your 3wd at 45.5" to avoid the left miss getting worse for that club :-) Proper length fitting (particularly with the longer clubs) involves much more than just trying a club at a given length.

But no, the longer club playing lengths should be fitted independently from the irons/wedges.  The factors to consider vary a bit.

Edited by Stuart G., 11 October 2018 - 08:50 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:54 AM

So...., you went for a fitting at Club Champion and only did the driver?  Why wouldn't you do the whole set?
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:13 AM

I got 3 Glide wedges (50, 54 and 58) made up to the same length as my i200 PW. So my 58 is effectively an inch and a half longer than standard (I'm +1 across all clubs anyway)

I haven't noticed any significant opening of the face as a result. I guess it may have slightly affected bounce as they each designed to be progressively shorter. But what i might have "lost" there (haven't noticed tbh) I gained by not hitting skulls and chunks any more. My "wedge swing" is consistent throughout all 4 wedges now.

So for me, adding length definitely helped at the opposite end of the bag.

Edited by MarkAJones, 11 October 2018 - 09:16 AM.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:21 AM

View PostStuart G., on 11 October 2018 - 08:47 AM, said:

Was the swing weight (or shaft weight) adjusted as you went shorter? It's good you're getting good results - and that's all that really matters - but weight issues would be a much more likely candidate for why the left miss got worse than the playing length really being to blame.  e.g. I'm guessing you don't have to play your 3wd at 45.5" to avoid the left miss getting worse for that club :-) Proper length fitting (particularly with the longer clubs) involves much more than just trying a club at a given length.

But no, the longer club playing lengths should be fitted independently from the irons/wedges.  The factors to consider vary a bit.

It was interesting but the 44.5" swingweight was D2. When we went to 45.5" we started at D7 and spin was way up. I was casting the club but face and path were still close to 0. Once we adjusted to D3....bingo. No question it plays a part. Thanks for the insight!

View PostSocrates, on 11 October 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

So...., you went for a fitting at Club Champion and only did the driver?  Why wouldn't you do the whole set?

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Edited by ObiwanForAll, 11 October 2018 - 09:23 AM.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:30 AM

View PostSocrates, on 11 October 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

So...., you went for a fitting at Club Champion and only did the driver?  Why wouldn't you do the whole set?

I don't want to speak for the original poster, but there are many reasons one might not do a full set. Number one is cost. If you add fairways, it's an additional cost. Irons, additional cost. Wedges additional cost. Putter additional cost. Number two is time. Every component is going to take 30-60 minutes to fit. You could easily spend 4-5 hours for a full bag fitting. Related to time is that taking that many swings is hard and you might be so tired by the end that the fitting is not really very good.
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 01:10 PM

First person Iíve heard of that went up in Driver length and hit it straighter.  Thatís pretty weird.  Maybe go to 48 and play a fade at long drive ?
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 01:35 PM

Since you were fit for your driver, instead of guessing at longer clubs through the bag... continue your fitting.

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