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#31 rdangelo1077

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:21 PM

View PostLagavulin62, on 10 October 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:


Which is why I would use my time putting and chipping. Then stretching and stsying in shape if I were in a snow state. I wouldn't evenbother with full shots.

Definitely agree with this. Last winter I would hit up the indoor range maybe every other weekend to get out and hit balls, but the rest of the time I worked on flexibility, strengthening, putting in the living room and drills without hitting balls. It made me focus more at the range to the drills I had been working on and I felt great right from the start. Goal was to get down from 12 to 9 this year, got down to that by end of June and I'm positive it was due to significantly more up&downs.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:33 PM

View Postkobe123, on 10 October 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

View Postelthrill, on 10 October 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

if you cant hit balls outside in Nashville TN in the winter, you aint man enuf to be a golfer.

Cold is not as much as a factor as the darkness.

lunchtime is what I try to do on nice days.  Even if its 40, if the sun is up and no wind, I can hit for an hour no problem and be sweating by the end.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:10 PM

View PostBrianMcG, on 09 October 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just buy a net and a piece of turf and crank up the Pandora.
Hitting balls into a net, is boring, plus you have no clue as to where or how far it is going.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:53 PM

View PostI_HATE_SNOW, on 10 October 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 09 October 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just buy a net and a piece of turf and crank up the Pandora.
Hitting balls into a net, is boring, plus you have no clue as to where or how far it is going.

Not true. After just a few sessions you can tell by sound and feel how well you struck the shot and if the clubface was square or not.

It's easy to set up some chalk lines for alignment, ball position and contact. It's not meant to replace digging it out of the dirt 9 months out of the year, but to keep sharp during the winter.

There's nothing better than hitting a solid 4 iron or driver. I don't care if its on a real course or into the back of the net. Its all fun. Its even great keeping your chipping sharp.

Edited by BrianMcG, 10 October 2018 - 07:38 PM.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 03:30 AM

View Postjut111, on 10 October 2018 - 05:12 PM, said:

I really donít get how you could hit a ball into it. That said, biggest value of the case is leveling the unit with the built in adjustable feet.

A rebound from a driver or a shank with a sw

I've done the prior, not the latter

Edited by dg_1983, 11 October 2018 - 03:30 AM.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 05:14 AM

View PostBrianMcG, on 10 October 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

View PostI_HATE_SNOW, on 10 October 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 09 October 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just buy a net and a piece of turf and crank up the Pandora.
Hitting balls into a net, is boring, plus you have no clue as to where or how far it is going.

Not true. After just a few sessions you can tell by sound and feel how well you struck the shot and if the clubface was square or not.

It's easy to set up some chalk lines for alignment, ball position and contact. It's not meant to replace digging it out of the dirt 9 months out of the year, but to keep sharp during the winter.

There's nothing better than hitting a solid 4 iron or driver. I don't care if its on a real course or into the back of the net. Its all fun. Its even great keeping your chipping sharp.

I once spent the winter taking lessons from a PGA pro and hitting into a net.  Worked hard and started hitting the ball really solidly.  The pro even said how impressed he was with my progress.  Turns out all I was doing was grooving a hard hook.  When spring came, I was worthless on the course.  I literally hit the ball sideways, and it took months to undo what I had practiced.  Miserable experience all under the guidance of the PGA.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 05:50 AM

View PostMountainGoat, on 11 October 2018 - 05:14 AM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 10 October 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

View PostI_HATE_SNOW, on 10 October 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 09 October 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just buy a net and a piece of turf and crank up the Pandora.
Hitting balls into a net, is boring, plus you have no clue as to where or how far it is going.

Not true. After just a few sessions you can tell by sound and feel how well you struck the shot and if the clubface was square or not.

It's easy to set up some chalk lines for alignment, ball position and contact. It's not meant to replace digging it out of the dirt 9 months out of the year, but to keep sharp during the winter.

There's nothing better than hitting a solid 4 iron or driver. I don't care if its on a real course or into the back of the net. Its all fun. Its even great keeping your chipping sharp.

I once spent the winter taking lessons from a PGA pro and hitting into a net.  Worked hard and started hitting the ball really solidly.  The pro even said how impressed he was with my progress.  Turns out all I was doing was grooving a hard hook.  When spring came, I was worthless on the course.  I literally hit the ball sideways, and it took months to undo what I had practiced.  Miserable experience all under the guidance of the PGA.


Sad commentary though it is also amusing. These indoor facilities will never go out of business.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 07:52 AM

View PostMountainGoat, on 11 October 2018 - 05:14 AM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 10 October 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

View PostI_HATE_SNOW, on 10 October 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 09 October 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just buy a net and a piece of turf and crank up the Pandora.
Hitting balls into a net, is boring, plus you have no clue as to where or how far it is going.

Not true. After just a few sessions you can tell by sound and feel how well you struck the shot and if the clubface was square or not.

It's easy to set up some chalk lines for alignment, ball position and contact. It's not meant to replace digging it out of the dirt 9 months out of the year, but to keep sharp during the winter.

There's nothing better than hitting a solid 4 iron or driver. I don't care if its on a real course or into the back of the net. Its all fun. Its even great keeping your chipping sharp.

I once spent the winter taking lessons from a PGA pro and hitting into a net.  Worked hard and started hitting the ball really solidly.  The pro even said how impressed he was with my progress.  Turns out all I was doing was grooving a hard hook.  When spring came, I was worthless on the course.  I literally hit the ball sideways, and it took months to undo what I had practiced.  Miserable experience all under the guidance of the PGA.

Which is the exact reason I want a simulator/monitor.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:03 AM

View Postkobe123, on 11 October 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

View PostMountainGoat, on 11 October 2018 - 05:14 AM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 10 October 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

View PostI_HATE_SNOW, on 10 October 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 09 October 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just buy a net and a piece of turf and crank up the Pandora.
Hitting balls into a net, is boring, plus you have no clue as to where or how far it is going.

Not true. After just a few sessions you can tell by sound and feel how well you struck the shot and if the clubface was square or not.

It's easy to set up some chalk lines for alignment, ball position and contact. It's not meant to replace digging it out of the dirt 9 months out of the year, but to keep sharp during the winter.

There's nothing better than hitting a solid 4 iron or driver. I don't care if its on a real course or into the back of the net. Its all fun. Its even great keeping your chipping sharp.

I once spent the winter taking lessons from a PGA pro and hitting into a net.  Worked hard and started hitting the ball really solidly.  The pro even said how impressed he was with my progress.  Turns out all I was doing was grooving a hard hook.  When spring came, I was worthless on the course.  I literally hit the ball sideways, and it took months to undo what I had practiced.  Miserable experience all under the guidance of the PGA.

Which is the exact reason I want a simulator/monitor.

Simulators are great.  Lots of fun.  Can also be great for teaching.  I prefer the fun  lol

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:07 AM

View PostMountainGoat, on 11 October 2018 - 05:14 AM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 10 October 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

View PostI_HATE_SNOW, on 10 October 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 09 October 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just buy a net and a piece of turf and crank up the Pandora.
Hitting balls into a net, is boring, plus you have no clue as to where or how far it is going.

Not true. After just a few sessions you can tell by sound and feel how well you struck the shot and if the clubface was square or not.

It's easy to set up some chalk lines for alignment, ball position and contact. It's not meant to replace digging it out of the dirt 9 months out of the year, but to keep sharp during the winter.

There's nothing better than hitting a solid 4 iron or driver. I don't care if its on a real course or into the back of the net. Its all fun. Its even great keeping your chipping sharp.

I once spent the winter taking lessons from a PGA pro and hitting into a net.  Worked hard and started hitting the ball really solidly.  The pro even said how impressed he was with my progress.  Turns out all I was doing was grooving a hard hook.  When spring came, I was worthless on the course.  I literally hit the ball sideways, and it took months to undo what I had practiced.  Miserable experience all under the guidance of the PGA.

Lol. That's hilarious.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:26 AM

I did the same thing one winter in my garage, my swing subconsciously became extremely shallow because I was afraid of catching the ceiling, but just hitting into the net it felt good. Spring came and I was hitting 40 yard hooks with mid irons.

This winter Iím probably going for some sort of device that will give me carry yardages. I donít have a high enough ceiling for full swings but if I could really dial in 30-40-50-60 yard shots that would be worth it.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:58 AM

View Postsuprfli6, on 11 October 2018 - 08:26 AM, said:

I did the same thing one winter in my garage, my swing subconsciously became extremely shallow because I was afraid of catching the ceiling, but just hitting into the net it felt good. Spring came and I was hitting 40 yard hooks with mid irons.

This winter I'm probably going for some sort of device that will give me carry yardages. I don't have a high enough ceiling for full swings but if I could really dial in 30-40-50-60 yard shots that would be worth it.

I'm really just wanting to dial 130 and in. I feel I could really reduce my handicap with this practice. I'm also going to buy 4'x10' birdie ball putting green. I've read a lot of mixed reviews with the driver on the skytrak. Distance doesn't matter with the driver to me as long as I can find a fairway, but distance with irons really matters.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:29 AM

View Postkobe123, on 11 October 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 11 October 2018 - 08:26 AM, said:

I did the same thing one winter in my garage, my swing subconsciously became extremely shallow because I was afraid of catching the ceiling, but just hitting into the net it felt good. Spring came and I was hitting 40 yard hooks with mid irons.

This winter I'm probably going for some sort of device that will give me carry yardages. I don't have a high enough ceiling for full swings but if I could really dial in 30-40-50-60 yard shots that would be worth it.

I'm really just wanting to dial 130 and in. I feel I could really reduce my handicap with this practice. I'm also going to buy 4'x10' birdie ball putting green. I've read a lot of mixed reviews with the driver on the skytrak. Distance doesn't matter with the driver to me as long as I can find a fairway, but distance with irons really matters.


Skytrak has it's pro's and cons.   It is an amazing device for the money.  There are some valid complaints with higher swing speed players, but there are a lot of complaints from people who believe they hit the ball further/better than they actually do (EG, I hit my 9 iron 155, but skytrak is telling me 143, everything is short 10 yards)

I personally feel you need visual and numbers feedback, especially to dial in wedges from 130 yards.   To easy to start hitting pulls, hard draws, change launch angle etc. To much risk in just hitting into a net.

Edited by sdrthedj, 11 October 2018 - 09:41 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:51 AM

View Postsdrthedj, on 11 October 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

View Postkobe123, on 11 October 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 11 October 2018 - 08:26 AM, said:

I did the same thing one winter in my garage, my swing subconsciously became extremely shallow because I was afraid of catching the ceiling, but just hitting into the net it felt good. Spring came and I was hitting 40 yard hooks with mid irons.

This winter I'm probably going for some sort of device that will give me carry yardages. I don't have a high enough ceiling for full swings but if I could really dial in 30-40-50-60 yard shots that would be worth it.

I'm really just wanting to dial 130 and in. I feel I could really reduce my handicap with this practice. I'm also going to buy 4'x10' birdie ball putting green. I've read a lot of mixed reviews with the driver on the skytrak. Distance doesn't matter with the driver to me as long as I can find a fairway, but distance with irons really matters.


Skytrak has it's pro's and cons.   It is an amazing device for the money.  There are some valid complaints with higher swing speed players, but there are a lot of complaints from people who believe they hit the ball further/better than they actually do (EG, I hit my 9 iron 155, but skytrak is telling me 143, everything is short 10 yards)

I personally feel you need visual and numbers feedback, especially to dial in wedges from 130 yards.   To easy to start hitting pulls, hard draws, change launch angle etc. To much risk in just hitting into a net.

That's the main thing that worries me is my swing speed, I'm around 118-122 with the driver and about 100-102 with 6 iron. I'd really like to test one right next to a trackman/gc2 to see.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:08 AM

Irons certainly won't be a problem.  Driver may give you some slightly slower ball numbers.  I ready that skytrak was testing a firmware update to rectify this.  

GC2 for indoor is still the best investment IMHO.  But for wedge play, irons and fun, skytrak can't be beat because of price/features.  

There are lots of people who have tested them all, including head to head.  Youtube has some great videos about it.  Look for Philip Stewart, he does some good reviews.  They are very comparable.  GC2 is better with short game/putting.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:19 AM

View Postsdrthedj, on 11 October 2018 - 10:08 AM, said:

Irons certainly won't be a problem.  Driver may give you some slightly slower ball numbers.  I ready that skytrak was testing a firmware update to rectify this.  

GC2 for indoor is still the best investment IMHO.  But for wedge play, irons and fun, skytrak can't be beat because of price/features.  

There are lots of people who have tested them all, including head to head.  Youtube has some great videos about it.  Look for Philip Stewart, he does some good reviews.  They are very comparable.  GC2 is better with short game/putting.

The real question is, will the software update be free? I'd love to have a GC2 but I don't want to drop 5,000 on one.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:22 AM

The software update will be a firmware update and always included.  They have done many releases, including short game, putting and updates to their flight algorithm.   No charges for them.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:25 AM

Unless you find a GC2 bundled with the software they usually don't come with any software, not even range.  Skytrak includes a basic range with the hardware and it is an extra $100 a year for their full-fledged range with bag mapping features.  Skytrak pushes out software updates on a regular basis.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:01 AM

View Postsdrthedj, on 11 October 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

The software update will be a firmware update and always included.  They have done many releases, including short game, putting and updates to their flight algorithm.   No charges for them.

I'm assuming if I buy a CPO it's going to have the most up to date software.

View Postgrant2145, on 11 October 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Unless you find a GC2 bundled with the software they usually don't come with any software, not even range.  Skytrak includes a basic range with the hardware and it is an extra $100 a year for their full-fledged range with bag mapping features.  Skytrak pushes out software updates on a regular basis.

Yeah, just not in my budget. Rather spend 5000+ on other things. AKA: Student Loans

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:20 AM

Iím suffering the results of hitting balls off of artificial surfaces over the years. I just canít do it anymore, itís grass or nothing. BB

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 12:29 PM

View Postsdrthedj, on 11 October 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

View Postkobe123, on 11 October 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 11 October 2018 - 08:26 AM, said:

I did the same thing one winter in my garage, my swing subconsciously became extremely shallow because I was afraid of catching the ceiling, but just hitting into the net it felt good. Spring came and I was hitting 40 yard hooks with mid irons.

This winter I'm probably going for some sort of device that will give me carry yardages. I don't have a high enough ceiling for full swings but if I could really dial in 30-40-50-60 yard shots that would be worth it.

I'm really just wanting to dial 130 and in. I feel I could really reduce my handicap with this practice. I'm also going to buy 4'x10' birdie ball putting green. I've read a lot of mixed reviews with the driver on the skytrak. Distance doesn't matter with the driver to me as long as I can find a fairway, but distance with irons really matters.


Skytrak has it's pro's and cons.   It is an amazing device for the money.  There are some valid complaints with higher swing speed players, but there are a lot of complaints from people who believe they hit the ball further/better than they actually do (EG, I hit my 9 iron 155, but skytrak is telling me 143, everything is short 10 yards)

I personally feel you need visual and numbers feedback, especially to dial in wedges from 130 yards.   To easy to start hitting pulls, hard draws, change launch angle etc. To much risk in just hitting into a net.

I'm pretty sure this is a mental thing with swinging indoors.  It was the same for me.  It took me a good 3 months to get comfortable enough that I started seeing real numbers that compare to what I would see on the course (tracked with gamegolf).  So the first couple months things might seem off, just give it time and you should see things start to normalize gradually.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 02:05 PM

View Postjasonfish11, on 11 October 2018 - 12:29 PM, said:

View Postsdrthedj, on 11 October 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

View Postkobe123, on 11 October 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 11 October 2018 - 08:26 AM, said:

I did the same thing one winter in my garage, my swing subconsciously became extremely shallow because I was afraid of catching the ceiling, but just hitting into the net it felt good. Spring came and I was hitting 40 yard hooks with mid irons.

This winter I'm probably going for some sort of device that will give me carry yardages. I don't have a high enough ceiling for full swings but if I could really dial in 30-40-50-60 yard shots that would be worth it.

I'm really just wanting to dial 130 and in. I feel I could really reduce my handicap with this practice. I'm also going to buy 4'x10' birdie ball putting green. I've read a lot of mixed reviews with the driver on the skytrak. Distance doesn't matter with the driver to me as long as I can find a fairway, but distance with irons really matters.


Skytrak has it's pro's and cons.   It is an amazing device for the money.  There are some valid complaints with higher swing speed players, but there are a lot of complaints from people who believe they hit the ball further/better than they actually do (EG, I hit my 9 iron 155, but skytrak is telling me 143, everything is short 10 yards)

I personally feel you need visual and numbers feedback, especially to dial in wedges from 130 yards.   To easy to start hitting pulls, hard draws, change launch angle etc. To much risk in just hitting into a net.

I'm pretty sure this is a mental thing with swinging indoors.  It was the same for me.  It took me a good 3 months to get comfortable enough that I started seeing real numbers that compare to what I would see on the course (tracked with gamegolf).  So the first couple months things might seem off, just give it time and you should see things start to normalize gradually.

I don't have the problem.  There are people who have indoor swing issues and swing a bit more slowly, and there are people who believe they hit the ball further than they do.  The complaints about GC2 or skytrak are usually a bit of both.  

Granted one of the guys I play with will swear up and down that he hits the ball a certain distance, but that's usually his 1 in 20 shot.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 02:31 PM

I'm not really concerned about run out distance, I just want carry distance to be close. Be really nice to get an accurate gap distance between clubs.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 02:35 PM

Unless you have played thru the "indoor syndrome" you definitely have it!

Just go have a read of ANY of the SIM websites and you will see everyone experiences it to a greater or lesser extent
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