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Right Hand Taylormade Ardmore 2 - keeps missing left


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#1 fusionvic

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 01:46 PM

I have a 35 inch Ardmore 2 (not the red/white with the huge white band) that came stock with the pair of 10 gram weights (which actually weigh 8 grams each). I noticed that I consistently miss left with this putter. If I have a perfect stroke, it will go straight, but the overall bias/tendency is to always miss left. Just to check I wasn't insane, I used my Daddy Long Legs and it doesn't miss left (if anything, I have a tendency to open the face at impact).

I experimented by pulling the weights from the Ardmore 2, and then only using 1 of the 10g weights, it seemed to help straighten it out. I feel if anything, this putter needs more weight because it feels too light. It also seems more upright as well than the typical 70* lie angle.

Any ideas? Has anyone else experienced similar behavior from their Ardmore 2?

I didn't get it because Justin Rose has one, but I went to the WITB page for him and saw that he has a pair of 2.5 gram weights with some lead tape on the bottom of his.

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#2 GimmieHendrix

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 06:31 PM

Geoff Mangum and others say that if you are pushing or pulling putts it's generally the lead hand, i.e. coming in to body early instead of holding line straight through. Perhaps try again, this time being super careful to keep your lead hand along your line right through and see what happens? Do some left-hand-only putts a la Dave Stockton and it should reveal whether or not it's a lead hand issue right away. Shoot out your two clubs left-hand-only and see what happens to the results? If they stay consistent perhaps the grip is out by a degree or two, etc. but if they don't then you know it's the lead hand, and you can set about remedying it.

Also... A quote I read on this forum today from user "nosil"... " Given the same stroke more offset generally moves the ball left and less offset generally moves the ball right. So if you are pulling putts try reducing offset. "

Hope that had value, cheers. :golfer:

Edited by GimmieHendrix, 07 October 2018 - 11:00 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2018 - 07:29 PM

Iím gonna go with user error
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 06:59 PM

View PostThe_Derz, on 07 October 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:

I'm gonna go with user error

I wish this were the case! I have an Ardmore 3 Red/White and sure enough, it goes straight or misses slightly right (same as Daddy Long Legs, ER2, etc...)
I went straight back to the Ardmore 2 (red) and it consistently misses left.
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 07:13 PM

Toss in the trash

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:18 PM

It's the putter. Something in how it's weighted, the offset, loft, alignment, etc...

I've put about 8 putters through sam puttlab sessions over the last year. Some just have a more left path bias or more face rotation in the forward stroke.

You can toy with weights. Try a heavier one in the toe. If face rotation is the problem and not path then heavier weight in the toe will help keep the face open longer.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:23 PM

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It's the putter.

Although possible, there's no basis here to conclude that yet. It's very rarely "the club" but always the first conclusion. Easy to figure out with a bit of testing, but no way to conclude anything definitely on only what's been done so far.

Edited by GimmieHendrix, 08 October 2018 - 08:24 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 07:05 PM

With a plumbers neck (toe hang) I usually miss left. With my double bend face balanced I am straight or may miss right. Thats just me but it's always like that.
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Posted 09 October 2018 - 07:27 PM

The difference is probably in the toe hang. If it’s the version I think it is you’ll have more toe hang then the others which iirc you close too fast and go left.
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