tom.lockhart, on 12 October 2018 - 11:18 AM, said:
Howard Jones, on 12 October 2018 - 12:52 AM, said:
rybo, on 11 October 2018 - 08:14 PM, said:
So you requested a D1 swingweight and Titleist built these to C6. Just an FYI Titleist weight sorts their heads into light, standard and heavy heads to allow clubs to be built as needed. I’d be speaking with someone from where they were ordered.
im not so sure they make other head wgt than standard, and if thats so, its limited for how high or low wgt there is from production, and if you dont belong to their sponsored players, i dont think any oems make any affords to sort this right, it has to go fast or they want make money. Most "custom orders" ive seen is OFF on several specs, because they dont treat their orders like a Custom Club maker does, they just grap whats closest at hand and hope it works "ok"...no pride here, but dont expect any changes to that unless you pay the extra for it.
PS! you owe me a virtual beer on this one, it was head weight like i said, and thats the first suspicion when we change play length.
I owe you a damn KEG!
Played yesterday and the irons are BACK, Was striping them like I normally would, the ball was flying higher and further. I now have to recalculate my yardages as I flew the first 4 greens of the day. I hit multiple 6irons about 160 carry, which is FAR for me. It's about 15 yards further than the 712s I had, not sure how much of that would be the 3* stronger loft and how much is the new head/shaft combo.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Now I just have to decide if I leave the lead tape on the clubs, or try to go a tip weight route, or go the lengthen route. I'm thinking now I may go the lengthen route, as the lower wedges, PW and 48* do feel a little bit short to me.
This is my suggestion if this ends up with that you would have to take care of this your self.
Most of us benefit from shorter long irons, but thats not always good in the short end, and you have already noticed that, but we can actually have both. You have also found that resistance and balance is highly important for you, and that leads me to suggest a 3/8" set up with progressive SW value to "poor mans moi match".
If the 3/8" route is new for you, spend some minutes to read about it in this tread where the issues was the same...going shorter like you starting out now, but there was options this players have not heard of before, but a few of them in the tread saw the idea and consept as interesting and did it.
In your case that means we can leave the longest iron as it is now, nd then add extensions to the others both for play lenght and SW reason, and since we are adding 1/8" then 2/8" then 3/8" vs how they are now, we add 0.75 SWP for each 1/8"
If your set up is 3-PW then a start from the #7 iron gives a #3 iron 0.5" shorter than std (or like it is now)
if your set up is 4-PW then a start from the #8 iron gives a #4 iron 0.5" shorter than std (or like it is now)
Both this set ups gives a short end in the area of standard play lenght, so you go longer vs now into the short.
Start with this post, and study the chart for starting points to see how the different 3/8" set ups looks like vs standard, we can get the short or long or both ends adjusted vs standard so our stance and ability to make a good impact is the best "all the way"....
Using Progressive SW with a slope of 0.5 SWP on 3/8" sets makes all clubs to be "identical" on actual resistance, so when we have tuned up our favorite club, and measured what SW value that club has when it works as we want it, we draw the SW slope both ways from that club to get target values for the others so they become just like the favorite club.
Just ask any question, this is new stuff for many readers and it might sound very advanced but its not, its very easy and strait forward when we have found out what set up for play lenght thats the best for us.
PS! 3 degreeds stronger is 0.75 clubs longer or somthing in the area of 8-10 yards depending on club speed, so you improved impact and got a higher smashfactor and more ball speed, thats where the rest of the distance came from.
1 mph extra ball speed moves us on average 2 yards longer, so it seems like ball speed was up 2-3 mph vs before.
Edited by Howard Jones, 13 October 2018 - 01:35 AM.