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#1 scottishpedro

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 02:37 PM

Hi all

Iím heading with some friends to California at the start of November. Iíve travelled to the states a fair bit in recent years for golf but this trip is shaping up to be pretty amazing.

Itinerary is:

Fly to San francisco Saturday 3rd Nov, drive down to Santa Cruz.
Golf at Pasatiempo on Sunday, stay in Santa Cruz again
Drive down and play Pebble Beach on Monday
Cypress Point on Tuesday, drive to San Fran
Playing San Francisco GC, Olympic Club and Cal Club the next 3 days then head home.

Questions:

What sort of clothing should I take, itíll mainly be trousers and jumper weather? Worth bringing the waterproofs and umbrella incase?

We have an 8 seater minivan booked, is it easy enough to park in San Fran for a few days, I know it wonít be cheap but just thinking logistically?

Thanks in advance

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 02:44 PM

I don't know anyone who would say parking in San Fran is "easy" but it is doable.  

Weather will most likely just be trousers and jumper weather.  Playing in the Bay Area and Monterrey you can expect to have some wind and some overcast, cloudy, foggy conditions.  If you can spare room for waterproofs then I don't see the harm in bringing them - but I doubt you'll need them either.

Can I ask how in God's name are you getting onto Cypress and SF Golf Club, both?!  My lord you must be well connected.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 03:06 PM

Thanks for the info. We havenít booked our SF hotel yet so maybe whichever one we book could help us/we could find a hotel with some sort of parking arrangement. Failing that I wonder if any car parks can be pre booked.

I can assure you I am not well connected, I just have a good buddy that is!

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 03:17 PM

 scottishpedro, on 05 October 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

Thanks for the info. We haven't booked our SF hotel yet so maybe whichever one we book could help us/we could find a hotel with some sort of parking arrangement. Failing that I wonder if any car parks can be pre booked.

I can assure you I am not well connected, I just have a good buddy that is!

The hotel valet's should be able to park the van for you no problem.  It'll probably be 70 dollars per night or something around that price.
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 03:48 PM

Bring your rain gear.  It will be very wet as a wet fall/winter is predicted.


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Posted 05 October 2018 - 04:45 PM

Eh, depending on how early in November you are playing it could easily be nice out. I played the Olympic Club the day before Thanksgiving two years ago and it was 70 degrees in the city. It still got cold and foggy in the evening but November weather in the Bay can often be good. I would bring long pants, rain gear, and layers up top. I wouldn't expect to use the rain gear but just in case.
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 11:32 PM

Please,please,please do not leave ANYTHING in your vehicle when parked in San Francisco.

We have a horrible auto burglary problem and a van full of clubs and luggage would be an easy hit for the criminals.

As far as clothing, it wonít get terribly cold, but wet is always a possibility.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 12:28 PM

Make sure you wear pants at Cal Club they do not allow shorts.
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Posted 06 October 2018 - 01:52 PM

 scottishpedro, on 05 October 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:


What sort of clothing should I take, it'll mainly be trousers and jumper weather? Worth bringing the waterproofs and umbrella incase?

Awesome itinerary.

Bring layers (Under Armour or equivalent under layer and a thermal pullover) in addition to rain gear. Good rain gear is a must when rain might be an option. Nothing ruins a round than being cold and wet. Make sure you have rain gloves and two pairs of shoes.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 02:44 PM

Great advice all round thanks, quite used to the cold and wet here in Scotland so it shoudn’t be a shock to the system if weather is bad!


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Posted 07 October 2018 - 10:18 AM

We typically stay at hotels that include parking. There are hundreds of them in the SF area you can find on travel sites like Hotels.com and TripAdvisor. Ebrasmus is right. If you’re not careful between parking and other mandatory fees your good daily rate quickly become not so good.
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Posted 07 October 2018 - 05:37 PM

So I ended up booking us an air b n b villa which overlooks Olympic club, it was a great price and has the driveway for the minivan.  It will take some of the stress out of city centre driving/parking and we will just get an Uber to and from town when we want to head in.

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 05:42 PM

 scottishpedro, on 07 October 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

So I ended up booking us an air b n b villa which overlooks Olympic club, it was a great price and has the driveway for the minivan.  It will take some of the stress out of city centre driving/parking and we will just get an Uber to and from town when we want to head in.

Good idea.  Enjoy your trip!
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 12:51 PM

Iím going to guess that your rental is near Daly Cityís Westlake area. There is a great restaurant right there called Westlake Joes. Nothing overly fancy, but good food, stiff drinks and an old school City vibe.

Iíd still take the clubs out of the van overnight and put them in the garage.

Have a great time. You are playing the best The City has to offer. If you have any other local questions drop me a line.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 03:50 PM

Thanks again for the advice and offer of help.  I will keep the thread updated about how the trip goes,  4 weeks to get my game in shape!


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 07:27 AM

So we are 3 days into our trip.  Weather so far has been fantastic, warm and all day sunshine.  Pebble beach was incredible, for sure my favourite front 9 of all time, back 9 is still fun but nothing can compare to holes 4-10.  Pasatiempo was also amazing, I’d read only good things about it leading up to the trip but it met all expectations. The greens complexes and bunkering are right up there with anything I’ve played.

The next few days are going to be special too I think

Cheers

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 10:03 AM

 scottishpedro, on 06 November 2018 - 07:27 AM, said:

So we are 3 days into our trip.  Weather so far has been fantastic, warm and all day sunshine.  Pebble beach was incredible, for sure my favourite front 9 of all time, back 9 is still fun but nothing can compare to holes 4-10.  Pasatiempo was also amazing, I’d read only good things about it leading up to the trip but it met all expectations. The greens complexes and bunkering are right up there with anything I’ve played.

The next few days are going to be special too I think

Cheers

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Glad to hear that you're having a great trip! Our weather has been great so far into November San Francisco has been in the 70's and where I live down the peninsula also in the 70's - 80's. Pebble this past weekend was sunny and in the mid 60's. I second Westlake Joe's for good food and nothing fancy.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 04:40 PM

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Please,please,please do not leave ANYTHING in your vehicle when parked in San Francisco.

We have a horrible auto burglary problem and a van full of clubs and luggage would be an easy hit for the criminals.

As far as clothing, it won't get terribly cold, but wet is always a possibility.

Thats real bad. I love SF, is this a recent spate of activity?
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 04:57 PM

 Daniel Eason, on 06 November 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

 wtoomey, on 05 October 2018 - 11:32 PM, said:

Please,please,please do not leave ANYTHING in your vehicle when parked in San Francisco.

We have a horrible auto burglary problem and a van full of clubs and luggage would be an easy hit for the criminals.

As far as clothing, it won't get terribly cold, but wet is always a possibility.

Thats real bad. I love SF, is this a recent spate of activity?

SF isn't what it used to be.  Sad to see.
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 07:23 PM

Damn, what a trip! Who can get me on at Olympic! Been trying to play there for some time!

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 10:04 PM

You are incredibly fortunate on your weather for this trip.

Good advice about not leaving anything in your car if parked in greater San Francisco.  It is the same advice you'd give a tourist about their phone or wallet in Rome, London or any other big city.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 11:35 PM

I am going to pass on the explanation as it is political in nature. The fact of the matter is that anything left in a car is a huge target for theft.

As for the weather, you have hit the NorCal jackpot!

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 11:39 PM

And just to add to the word of caution, donít think for a second that bc youíre parked in what looks to be a nicer part of SF that your stuff will be safe. These thieves know where to score. Be safe, have fun!

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 11:50 PM

Everything we have with us has been removed from the car. Cheers for the advice.

Ps cypress point was as incredible as I imagined. Played really nicely, nearly hole in oned 15, fantastic weather again

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 01:49 AM

Everytime I hear someone gets to play Cypress Point a small part of me cries out in jealousy. I was close to getting to play it when I was younger but the engagement fell through at the last moment. You are getting to play the best of the best that Northern California offers. Enjoy your trip, wish you the best.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:46 PM

Looking forward to your reports.  Once again, you got crazy lucky on the weather for November!

Today would have been the one day you wanted to be able to wear shorts at SFGC (not allowed)!

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 02:32 PM

With a trip like yours, I would pay $70 per night parking to make sure your clubs donít get stolen.  San Francisco has a massive car break in problem.

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 04:19 PM

Back home now in cold, wet and windy Scotland, needless to say it was the best trip i've ever been on; wall to wall sunshine and 6 incredible courses.

I'm really pleased how I struck the ball, hit driver well, hit alot of greens but didn't putt my best.  We were extremely fortunate where we were able to play and the hosts and people we were paired up with were all very friendly.

The flight over was fine.  We drove down to Monterey on Saturday night and got a little sleep before our 6.30am tee off time at Pebble Beach.

Pebble was simply amazing.  The front 9 is the best 9 I have ever played.  I birdied 6 and 7 which was nice, and 8,9,10 are stunning golf holes.  The back 9 is very nice in it's own right, it's just not quite as epic as the front!

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We then stayed at The Inn at Spanish Bay for 2 nights.  We had to do this to get a teet time at Pebble.  I'm not a fancy hotel person, and while it was very nice with service to match, it was fairly eye wateringly expensive.  Worth it though for a once in a lifetime game at Pebble.

Day 2 was Pasatiempo.  I heard alot of good things about this course before playing and I have to agree the layout is excellent.  The par 3s in particular are lovely, and the condition of the course was great.  They had just redesigned/relaid all the tees, but after just a week you would hardly know they had been touched.

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Day 3 was the big one for me, Cypress Point.  Safe to say it was the best golf experience of my life.  It was everything I imagined and more, a superb layout combined with possibly the most spectacular location in the world of golf.  I was so pleased that my golf was as good as it gets here, I hit 14 greens and scored great apart from 16 which is unbelievably hard.  We played from the back tees, and after nearly holing my tee shot at 15, on a high I strode to 16 and proceeded to pump 3 balls into the pacific ocean!  I now understand why Hogan, all but once, used to hit his tee shot to the bailout short left and attempted to make par from there.

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After golf at Cypress we headed back up to San Francisco as checked into our Air b n b villa for 3 nights.  This turned out to be an excellent choice, both for the driveway parking and for the proximity to our golf.  We were 3 minutes drive from each of the next 2 courses, and had we stayed in downtown we would have strruggled to make it through traffic during morning rush hour.

Day 4 golf was at San Francisco Golf Club.  This is a special place.  The members were very friendly and are clearly very proud of their club.  The course was immaculate, not a blade of grass out of place.  The course itself is wide open, great for smashing driver around.  It's definitelty a second shot golf course, you have to hit precise approach shots to leave a more simple putt or chip.  It's a nice playable course which would be fun to play regularly.

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Day 5 was Olympic Club Lake course.  What a beast.  Incredibly difficult golf course.  Shaping of tee shots are required on many holes and miss the green on the wrong side (sometimes any side) at your peril!  I enjoyed the course but it really is tough!

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Day 6 was definitely the biggest surprise for me, Cal Club.  I hadn't heard too much about this before playing.  My caddy said to me on the first tee that I might enjoy this the most out of the San Fran courses and he was right, what a place.  The course is very different to the others we played, very firm and very very fast.  I have never played a course in the US that is as firm as our links courses, but this was every bit as firm as Carnoustie.  The greens are no doubt the best I have ever putted on in my life.  The caddy reckoned they were 13 on the stimp, and this put a huge premium on accurate approach shots.  I loved every minute of the round and again was especially happy to have played well and scored 74 on such a tricky quick course.

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After this California trip I really have reshuffled my top 10 courses of all time.  Our next trip is going to have to be very special to top it!

Cheers

Pedro

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:05 PM

Great pics and looks like you hit the weather lottery for your trip.

I'm still impressed at your connections and the ability to get onto the courses you did.

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:42 PM

What a trip.

Wish I could get on a couple of those courses, since I live much closer :taunt:


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