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#1 cj4501

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:45 PM

I play CS truvis but not in love with them. Def want a ball that helps with side spin and easy to compress. My ss is around 99-103max.


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 09:56 PM

AVX

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 05:47 AM

I second that! AVX is like the Pro V1 and Pro V1X had a baby that has a soft spot for golf. low spin, great feel, soft of the putter, AMAZING...

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 05:49 AM

AVX here!

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:04 AM

BXS?

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:22 AM

lots of new balls this winter so just wait, try a few right now and then compare to the news ones coming.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:24 AM

There's really no such thing as side spin... But assuming you want your ball to hook/slice less would mean you'll want to use a lower spinning ball.

Lowest spin ball that still felt soft that I've used is either the Snell Get Sum or the Supersoft. E6 soft is also a solid choice but I think it spins a little more than the previous.
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 08:38 AM

New TPs, V1s, Z-stars and I think Bridgestone ammo on the way.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 09:47 AM

Another vote for the AVX. Love it!
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 11:37 AM

Interesting. Might have to give avx a try, was looking at e6 soft as well


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Posted 07 October 2018 - 10:02 PM

Anyone try Cut Blue?

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 10:18 AM

second this about the e6 soft being higher spinning than the 2015 model. I managed to pick up 2 boxes of the 2015 recently online for £10 each and would recommend them as a budget low spin ball. I also have the e6 soft and don't get on with it quite so much (could all be in my head though).
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 07:46 AM

Tour B XS has been as good as any ball ive tested. May be the best feeling ball around the greens
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:47 AM

It might help if you elaborated on what you mean by helping with side spin. As mentioned above, there is no such thing as side spin really. A ball will spin on a single axis and that spin axis will tilt left or right depending on  face and path angles. If you are hoping to find a ball that will straighten out a slice or hook, then as far I understand it, more spin is the way to go as it helps to stabilize ball flight.

My SS is similar to yours and I recently started playing the Kirkland Signature 3-Piece. For most shots it is indistinguishable from the ProV1 it replaced, but it spins more on short irons and perhaps a little more around the green too. I bought a ton of them given the price. Durability is great too!!

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:08 AM

I found the best was to reduce a slide was to use a higher lofted driver (12) and a low spinning ball (I like the 2015 e6 which can be found cheap!). That way your still generating back spin via the loft but it will spin less to either side due to the nature of the ball if you are going out to in or in to out at impact. As a previous poster said, more spin will stabilise the flight.

Sacrifice greenside spin, but its easier to compensate for that than it is having to take drops / dig out of rough / play pinball between trees.

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 02:59 PM

Snell MTB Black or Red. The Black spins a little less overall around the green especially but it really straight. And you can't beat the price.

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:04 PM

You might be pleasantly surprised with new Maxfli 4 piece U/Fli soft and U/Fli speed.  $20 doz.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:20 PM

Tour B XS beat everything else for me.  Longest of the tee while irons and wedge shots are as good as the others.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 08:07 PM

View PostBrendanH, on 11 October 2018 - 09:47 AM, said:

It might help if you elaborated on what you mean by helping with side spin. As mentioned above, there is no such thing as side spin really. A ball will spin on a single axis and that spin axis will tilt left or right depending on  face and path angles. If you are hoping to find a ball that will straighten out a slice or hook, then as far I understand it, more spin is the way to go as it helps to stabilize ball flight.

My SS is similar to yours and I recently started playing the Kirkland Signature 3-Piece. For most shots it is indistinguishable from the ProV1 it replaced, but it spins more on short irons and perhaps a little more around the green too. I bought a ton of them given the price. Durability is great too!!

You know, I've wondered about this for a long time.

If 2 balls are hit with a driver and traveling at say, 150 MPH and are off axis the SAME exact angle and one ball is spinning at 3000 RPMs and the other at 2000 RPMs which one will curve more.

I'd always thought the higher spin ball would curve more but you seem to indicate the lower spinning ball would because the higher spinning ball would be more "stable".

I believe so long as the ball has enough spin so as not to "knuckle" (and fall to earth) spin wouldn't have anything to do with "stability".

And aren't the less expensive "distance" balls also very low spin ? Distance because they don't spin much ? And supposed to be straighter as well ? Pretty much all of those balls are low spin, no ?

So why then would a higher spinning ball curve less ? I would think it'd curve more. :dntknw:
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Posted 13 October 2018 - 08:32 PM

Do yourself a favor and try the budget urethane balls. Vice, MG, MTB, etc. You'll be surprised I think. For a long time I payed $40+ a dozen for balls. I tried the MG balls and I'll never pay that much again. If money is no concern then by all means buy them.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 10:54 PM

View Postnsxguy, on 13 October 2018 - 08:07 PM, said:

View PostBrendanH, on 11 October 2018 - 09:47 AM, said:

It might help if you elaborated on what you mean by helping with side spin. As mentioned above, there is no such thing as side spin really. A ball will spin on a single axis and that spin axis will tilt left or right depending on  face and path angles. If you are hoping to find a ball that will straighten out a slice or hook, then as far I understand it, more spin is the way to go as it helps to stabilize ball flight.

My SS is similar to yours and I recently started playing the Kirkland Signature 3-Piece. For most shots it is indistinguishable from the ProV1 it replaced, but it spins more on short irons and perhaps a little more around the green too. I bought a ton of them given the price. Durability is great too!!

You know, I've wondered about this for a long time.

If 2 balls are hit with a driver and traveling at say, 150 MPH and are off axis the SAME exact angle and one ball is spinning at 3000 RPMs and the other at 2000 RPMs which one will curve more.

I'd always thought the higher spin ball would curve more but you seem to indicate the lower spinning ball would because the higher spinning ball would be more "stable".

I believe so long as the ball has enough spin so as not to "knuckle" (and fall to earth) spin wouldn't have anything to do with "stability".

And aren't the less expensive "distance" balls also very low spin ? Distance because they don't spin much ? And supposed to be straighter as well ? Pretty much all of those balls are low spin, no ?

So why then would a higher spinning ball curve less ? I would think it'd curve more. :dntknw:

That's a great question, and to be honest my comments above are based on my own understanding gleaned from feedback from others who undoubtedly know more about it than I do.

My best shot at explaining it (and keep in mind this could be completely wrong) is that a given club/swing combo when hit dead nuts straight on, 0 path, 0 face, will produce a certain amount of backspin and zero sidespin. The club design and loft will have a substantial impact on the backspin produced, as will the ball itself. That backspin keeps the ball airborne and provides distance control. OK, safe so far I think.

Now when you start to introduce a club face that is open or closed to the path you effectively add some sidespin into the mix, which will combine with the backspin to produce a tilted spin axis. That tilted spin axis yields the curve left or right. Still safe I believe....

Now for the shaky ground. Most ball tests I have seen will show similar driver results for most modern golf balls, but the spin numbers will start to vary substantially as loft increases. i.e. higher spin balls will react more effectively to an impact situation which is attempting to impart a lot of spin. Impacts which would typically impart low spin tend to yield very similar results across varied ball models. Given that, if you now consider that for fade or draw strikes, the amount of backspin the club is attempting to impart will greatly exceed the amount of sidespin, it would stand to reason that the higher spinning ball would accept more backspin from the delivery than would a lower spinning ball, whereas both balls will likely yield similar (or at least not massively different) amounts of sidespin. Those netted together would result in a less tilted spin axis for the high spin ball.

Assuming my reasoning on this is sound, a higher spin ball will likely not produce much difference in curvature off a driver, but as you increase loft you would hopefully see a tighter dispersion than the low spin ball would provide.

Or maybe I am deeply confused and someone more knowledgeable needs to step in here, lol.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 10:57 PM

View Postcj4501, on 04 October 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

I play CS truvis but not in love with them. Def want a ball that helps with side spin and easy to compress. My ss is around 99-103max.

Try the Srixon Z-Star, I think it would be a great fit for your profile.

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Posted 20 October 2018 - 09:03 PM

You need to try the mgc4 ASAP!!!!! Top notch balls for $20\ a dozen ! A must !

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Posted 20 October 2018 - 11:01 PM

View PostBrendanH, on 13 October 2018 - 10:54 PM, said:

View Postnsxguy, on 13 October 2018 - 08:07 PM, said:

View PostBrendanH, on 11 October 2018 - 09:47 AM, said:

It might help if you elaborated on what you mean by helping with side spin. As mentioned above, there is no such thing as side spin really. A ball will spin on a single axis and that spin axis will tilt left or right depending on  face and path angles. If you are hoping to find a ball that will straighten out a slice or hook, then as far I understand it, more spin is the way to go as it helps to stabilize ball flight.

My SS is similar to yours and I recently started playing the Kirkland Signature 3-Piece. For most shots it is indistinguishable from the ProV1 it replaced, but it spins more on short irons and perhaps a little more around the green too. I bought a ton of them given the price. Durability is great too!!

You know, I've wondered about this for a long time.

If 2 balls are hit with a driver and traveling at say, 150 MPH and are off axis the SAME exact angle and one ball is spinning at 3000 RPMs and the other at 2000 RPMs which one will curve more.

I'd always thought the higher spin ball would curve more but you seem to indicate the lower spinning ball would because the higher spinning ball would be more "stable".

I believe so long as the ball has enough spin so as not to "knuckle" (and fall to earth) spin wouldn't have anything to do with "stability".

And aren't the less expensive "distance" balls also very low spin ? Distance because they don't spin much ? And supposed to be straighter as well ? Pretty much all of those balls are low spin, no ?

So why then would a higher spinning ball curve less ? I would think it'd curve more. :dntknw:

That's a great question, and to be honest my comments above are based on my own understanding gleaned from feedback from others who undoubtedly know more about it than I do.

My best shot at explaining it (and keep in mind this could be completely wrong) is that a given club/swing combo when hit dead nuts straight on, 0 path, 0 face, will produce a certain amount of backspin and zero sidespin. The club design and loft will have a substantial impact on the backspin produced, as will the ball itself. That backspin keeps the ball airborne and provides distance control. OK, safe so far I think.

Now when you start to introduce a club face that is open or closed to the path you effectively add some sidespin into the mix, which will combine with the backspin to produce a tilted spin axis. That tilted spin axis yields the curve left or right. Still safe I believe....

Now for the shaky ground. Most ball tests I have seen will show similar driver results for most modern golf balls, but the spin numbers will start to vary substantially as loft increases. i.e. higher spin balls will react more effectively to an impact situation which is attempting to impart a lot of spin. Impacts which would typically impart low spin tend to yield very similar results across varied ball models. Given that, if you now consider that for fade or draw strikes, the amount of backspin the club is attempting to impart will greatly exceed the amount of sidespin, it would stand to reason that the higher spinning ball would accept more backspin from the delivery than would a lower spinning ball, whereas both balls will likely yield similar (or at least not massively different) amounts of sidespin. Those netted together would result in a less tilted spin axis for the high spin ball.

Assuming my reasoning on this is sound, a higher spin ball will likely not produce much difference in curvature off a driver, but as you increase loft you would hopefully see a tighter dispersion than the low spin ball would provide.

Or maybe I am deeply confused and someone more knowledgeable needs to step in here, lol.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:43 PM

Use the Snell approach. Sample a bunch of balls and try them out with pitching and chipping and whatever suits your eye that is cheapest, use that.

I wouldn't touch AVX. K3 and K4 are good budget balls. I have a stock pile of Snell Red and Nike RZN Platinum.

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Posted 25 October 2018 - 07:11 PM

AVX brother. AVX.
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Posted 14 November 2018 - 06:07 PM

View Postrgmco, on 12 October 2018 - 08:04 PM, said:

You might be pleasantly surprised with new Maxfli 4 piece U/Fli soft and U/Fli speed.  $20 doz.
I second using the Maxfli U/Fli speed. Launches high enough, spins very well and holds its line pretty well in windy conditions! Best to have a swing speed above 100 MPH though if you want to get the most out of it. Always sells for @$20 doz when on sale. Not made in the USA if that matters to you.

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