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#121 MKPAPA

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 09:46 AM

 noodle3872, on 26 November 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

 MKPAPA, on 26 November 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

Yo, so maybe i've been under a rock, but i just noticed that mizuno released a japan only Mizuno Pro 319. Is this the equivalent of the mp18 split cavity? If not then my interest is p-i-q-u-e-d.

That’s exactly what it is.

Any reason for its recent release?

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:34 PM

Thinking about going with the forged with traditional lots.

Iron - 919 Loft / My Adjusted Loft
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Posted 28 November 2018 - 04:37 AM

 DBake, on 27 November 2018 - 11:34 PM, said:

Thinking about going with the forged with traditional lots.

Iron - 919 Loft / My Adjusted Loft
4 - 22/21
5 -  25/24
6 - 28/28
7 - 32/32
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Posted 28 November 2018 - 09:13 AM

 JourdanM, on 10 November 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

 Woodie, on 10 November 2018 - 01:46 PM, said:

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.
The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black -  I hope so :-)
I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.
I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....
is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...


The jpx900 has a shade too much spin while the st180 has a poor at address look(too closed)...hopefully the st190 gives the balanced look of jpx900 with less spin!

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 10:47 AM

 DBake, on 27 November 2018 - 11:34 PM, said:

Thinking about going with the forged with traditional lots.

Iron - 919 Loft / My Adjusted Loft
4 - 22/21
5 -  25/24
6 - 28/28
7 - 32/32
8 - 36/36
9 - 41/40
P - 46/44
G - 51/48

Bear in mind you'll be taking an already low bounce iron and reducing the bounce further by delofting the 919 Forged, including taking the 4 iron bounce down to -1*. If you're already steep, things could get hairy.

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 12:59 AM

 Drudersh, on 28 November 2018 - 10:47 AM, said:

 DBake, on 27 November 2018 - 11:34 PM, said:

Thinking about going with the forged with traditional lots.

Iron - 919 Loft / My Adjusted Loft
4 - 22/21
5 -  25/24
6 - 28/28
7 - 32/32
8 - 36/36
9 - 41/40
P - 46/44
G - 51/48

Bear in mind you'll be taking an already low bounce iron and reducing the bounce further by delofting the 919 Forged, including taking the 4 iron bounce down to -1*. If you're already steep, things could get hairy.
I did the exact same thing except my PW is 44, GW is 49. My other wedges at 54 and 59 as I prefer 5 degree gaps in my wedges. No issues and I have a steep swing. I just play them a bit farther up in my stance.

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 08:43 PM

 landshark, on 26 November 2018 - 11:01 PM, said:

 glfrgy22, on 18 November 2018 - 01:22 AM, said:

 JourdanM, on 10 November 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

 Woodie, on 10 November 2018 - 01:46 PM, said:

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.
The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black -  I hope so :-)
I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.
I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....
is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...

The ST190 now has a little more weight low and back so the launch and spin has come up. The ST190G is now the spin killer. You will love the ST190!
With the ST190 what kind of numbers were you getting comparing to the ST180?   Pricing on the st180 has dropped so much that it's worth jumping on, especially coming from an older cobra flyZ.   just wonder if it's going to do a whole lot more??   thanks

I got about 4 mph of average gain over my ST180. The speed gain is great, but the sound, feel, and look are all major gains and grounds for switching even if the numbers were the same!

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:31 PM

New vid went live today on the ST190 driver.
https://www.youtube....h?v=1zvPo71lhnM

Edited by joshella, 03 December 2018 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:46 PM

These drivers are going to be winners.  Write it down.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:10 PM

I almost ordered a st 180. The new 190 looks amazing. Not interested in the g model. Waiting until  February for this model too?

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:04 AM

Those look amazing. I can hardly wait to hit them in February.
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:05 AM

Iím wondering if itís a mistake not to have these woods out now? I guess time will tell.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:10 AM

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 01:25 AM

I have a feeling the 190G is in the bag for 2019...gota hit it and looking forward to that. Thanks for posting this video!
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:41 AM

I love the Mizuno woods and how they feel but for whatever reason they go absolutely nowhere for me.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 02:50 PM

View Poststarsail85, on 17 November 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

Do we know what is happening with the t7 wedge and any replacement for 2019 ?
T-20 coming in september along with new MP line. Gonna keep the T wedges on same release as MP and the S on JPX lines going forward
The T-20 is gonna be in three finishes, only confirmed is satin so far. Feel somewhat safe in saying one is gonna be blue and hopefully one raw since they did release raw T-7 for tour
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 02:28 PM

A couple of big names taped to some ST190 heads.....

https://twitter.com/...K3NChYXBGhwy-mE
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 03:12 PM

View PostDrudersh, on 05 December 2018 - 02:28 PM, said:

A couple of big names taped to some ST190 heads.....

https://twitter.com/...K3NChYXBGhwy-mE

Koepka with one? Wow.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 03:21 PM

View Postthird-times-a-charm, on 05 December 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

View PostDrudersh, on 05 December 2018 - 02:28 PM, said:

A couple of big names taped to some ST190 heads.....

https://twitter.com/...K3NChYXBGhwy-mE

Koepka with one? Wow.

Yup. That'll generate some buzz.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 04:49 PM

If Koepka bags this new driver, Mizuno will sell a ton of them.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 04:56 PM

 reider69, on 05 December 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

If Koepka bags this new driver, Mizuno will sell a ton of them.


I like Koepka but i doubt that.  He's not the best at marketing things including himself.  Plus a big problem for Mizuno is getting stock in shops.  There are 0 shops around me that carry Mizuno woods. If people can't grab it off the shelf for a waggle or two then chances of it being a big seller is small.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 04:58 PM

 EHolm, on 04 December 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

 starsail85, on 17 November 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

Do we know what is happening with the t7 wedge and any replacement for 2019 ?
T-20 coming in september along with new MP line. Gonna keep the T wedges on same release as MP and the S on JPX lines going forward
The T-20 is gonna be in three finishes, only confirmed is satin so far. Feel somewhat safe in saying one is gonna be blue and hopefully one raw since they did release raw T-7 for tour
Unfortunately I think that it's more than likely going to be blue, gun metal, and satin like the current S18 wedges are. Hope you're right though.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 07:38 PM

I bought the JPX 900 on a 'whim' after a fitting and couldnt have been more disappointed with them.  Hopefully this is an improvement from this line.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:35 PM

 EHolm, on 04 December 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

 starsail85, on 17 November 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

Do we know what is happening with the t7 wedge and any replacement for 2019 ?
T-20 coming in september along with new MP line. Gonna keep the T wedges on same release as MP and the S on JPX lines going forward
The T-20 is gonna be in three finishes, only confirmed is satin so far. Feel somewhat safe in saying one is gonna be blue and hopefully one raw since they did release raw T-7 for tour

Really hope we get a variety of grinds especially on the higher lofted wedges.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 06:59 AM

 J13, on 05 December 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

 reider69, on 05 December 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

If Koepka bags this new driver, Mizuno will sell a ton of them.


I like Koepka but i doubt that.  He's not the best at marketing things including himself.  Plus a big problem for Mizuno is getting stock in shops.  There are 0 shops around me that carry Mizuno woods. If people can't grab it off the shelf for a waggle or two then chances of it being a big seller is small.

Let's be honest if anyone fails at marketing a guy and player like Koepka they just don't know how to market. The guy has more swagger going for him than DJ and look what they've been able to do with him...

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:13 AM

 GolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 06:59 AM, said:

 J13, on 05 December 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

 reider69, on 05 December 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

If Koepka bags this new driver, Mizuno will sell a ton of them.


I like Koepka but i doubt that.  He's not the best at marketing things including himself.  Plus a big problem for Mizuno is getting stock in shops.  There are 0 shops around me that carry Mizuno woods. If people can't grab it off the shelf for a waggle or two then chances of it being a big seller is small.

Let's be honest if anyone fails at marketing a guy and player like Koepka they just don't know how to market. The guy has more swagger going for him than DJ and look what they've been able to do with him...

I don’t believe he is under contract with Mizuno so not sure how much they can really advertise.

For example, I assume they can say “Brooks Koepka won two majors last year playing Mizuno irons” but I doubt they can say “Brooks Koepka, winner of two majors last year, plays Mizuno irons”.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:15 AM

 Jarlaxle, on 06 December 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

 GolfChannel, on 06 December 2018 - 06:59 AM, said:

 J13, on 05 December 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

 reider69, on 05 December 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

If Koepka bags this new driver, Mizuno will sell a ton of them.


I like Koepka but i doubt that.  He's not the best at marketing things including himself.  Plus a big problem for Mizuno is getting stock in shops.  There are 0 shops around me that carry Mizuno woods. If people can't grab it off the shelf for a waggle or two then chances of it being a big seller is small.

Let's be honest if anyone fails at marketing a guy and player like Koepka they just don't know how to market. The guy has more swagger going for him than DJ and look what they've been able to do with him...

I don’t believe he is under contract with Mizuno so not sure how much they can really advertise.

For example, I assume they can say “Brooks Koepka won two majors last year playing Mizuno irons” but I doubt they can say “Brooks Koepka, winner of two majors last year, plays Mizuno irons”.

They cannot use his name in any official capacity. Best they can do is say "The winner of the US Open trusted the JPX 900 Tour" or something like that.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:01 AM

Koepka's deal with Nike does not allow him to sign with Mizuno because they compete with Nike in the sporting goods arena.  He could sign with a golf only company like Ping and be okay but I doubt he wants to give up control of his club choices for a few hundred thousand dollars a year.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:10 AM

You guys think it'll be better than the udi? or t mb?
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:42 AM

 trhode, on 11 October 2018 - 05:11 AM, said:

Hopef they won't sound like an empty coffee can.
they do....I hate the sound of these but the looks are awesome


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