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Forgiving Straight Hybrid... Recommendations?


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#31 JDW3

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 11:22 PM

Cobra f7. I love mine.

Driver: Ping G400 Max
3 wood: Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 816
Hybrid: Cobra F7 19* & 22*
Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 16
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Posted 01 October 2018 - 11:42 PM

Adding on for the Ping G400 hybrid!
- Had always used a 3 iron...but was time to go
- Wanted something 210 - 230 off the tee for short/tight par 4s and long par 3s
- Did not want to get a 5 wood but had bad luck with driving irons
- Had always being against hybrids but am coming around thanks to this one
- Love the matte-ish black top at address

As long as you get the right shaft (I got the Tour no charge, non-standard offering), this baby can go long and high once you find your groove. Currently I am much more successful using it without a tee (swing down) vs. on a tee (swing up like a driver).

Also note: I’m 6’4” and, though all wedges and irons are 1/2 inch long, was fitted to standard length with this hybrid.

Edited by SDGolfRookie, 01 October 2018 - 11:43 PM.


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 06:56 AM

View Post9woodfan, on 01 October 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

Looking for a high launching, forgiving, game improving style hybrid from the previous few years. Really like the Cobra but I haven't tried any of the other offerings between OEMs... Suggestions?

Looking to bridge the gap between 5 iron and 5 wood. I'm about a 12 cap and low ball hitter. Something that wants to fly high is ok with me.

Thanks!

You answered your own question.

Anything with baffler rails is amazing.

F7 or f8 is the ticket
g400max 8.5* | PX Hzrdus Black 75 6.5
f8+ 14.5* | Black 75 6.5
f8 18.5* | Black 75 6.5
tour preferred UDI 3 iron | testing Black 105 6.5
MP5 4-PW | TT DG X100
hi-toe 52*9, 58*10 | TT DG X100
hi-toe 62*5 | KBS hi-rev 2.0 115
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3 iron vs. 62 wedge is a game-day decision.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 06:59 AM

For a slightly older hybrid the Titleist 915H were pretty damn good.
Ping G400 - Tour 65 - S
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 08:23 AM

Recommend the Cobra Biocells - forgiving and found it much less hooky than the Ping G25s.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 09:08 AM

Save some money and try out the old Callaway X hot and X hot Pro. The face style makes it easier to launch them, and they’re overall an awesome option. The Apex series is great too, but a little harder to launch.
What's actually in the bag...
Callaway Epic SZ-9.0-Aldila X-Torsion Green Mamba-70TX
Callaway Epic SZ 15* - PX Handcrafted Yellow 75 6.5
Callaway Apex UT 21* - C- taper S+
Miura LH LTD Black Blades: 3-p w/ DG TI X7's.
Cleveland RTX 3: 50-54 w. C-Taper S+
Scratch 1018: 58 w/ C-Taper S+
Piretti Potenza / Odyssey MX #7

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Callaway BBA (2014)
Callaway 13 X Forged w/ AMT X100's (hard stepped once)
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 11:19 AM

View Postchadly643, on 01 October 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

View Postsmokedturkey, on 01 October 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

Callaway XR.  Don't understand all the hook talk that goes along with hybrids.

Lucky!! I have hooked more hybrids ob than driver this year. I wish I got along with mine because when I hit it well it's an absolute weapon out of the rough.

OP- for a real value option, take a look at the last couple of Adams releases. TM is still releasing those clubs, just with a new paint job.

Which hybrid do you game?
Taylormade M3 8.5 Graphite Design AD IZ 6S
Taylormade M1 15 Graphite Design AD DI 7S
PXG 0317 19* Fujikura Pro 2.0 8-S Hybrid
Callaway GBB Alpha 815 23* Speeder 865
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:50 PM

G-25
COBRA F7
PING G-25 4-Wood
PING G-25 Hybrid
NIKE Covert 5-AW
NIKE Engage Toe Sweep 54*/Dual Sole 58*
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:57 PM

Maybe not that popular of an answer but I'm a 13 handicap and my go to club is a 915 HD which replaced my 4 iron. I've never found a better hybrid in my life.
TM M4 Oban Devotion 6 04
Titleist TS2 13.5* Project X Even Flow T1100 White
Callaway Epic 5W set to 17* Project X Hzrdus Yellow (Handcrafted) or Ping G15 17* Aldila Serrano 75R (yep, Regular Flex Serrano)
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:18 PM

Coming from a guy that stil carries a 2 iron:
Forgiving is a word I would use to describe a hybrid.
Straight is not a word I would use to describe a hybrid; I would use the word "left" instead.

Titleist 915D4 9.75 Tensei Pro Orange
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:25 PM

You should try the Callaway XR OS.

I had the F7 Cobra but tended to hook it and didn't enjoy the turf interaction as much as I hoped I might.

Switched to the OS in19* 18 months ago and it's now my go to from 190-200 yds. (I'm old and swing slow.) It feels especially reliable in the wind and generally flies straight. Cheap as chips these days, I'm sure.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:27 PM

View Postsmokedturkey, on 01 October 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

Callaway XR.  Don't understand all the hook talk that goes along with hybrids.

A second vote for the XR's. Have played a number of different hybrids over the past 6/7 years and these are excellent clubs.
GBB Epic 10.5 Project X HZRDUS T800 55
GBB Epic 5 wood
XR 3/4/5 Hybrid
Steelhead XR Pro 6-GW UST Mamiya Recoil 95/110
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:29 PM

Callaway Apex is the straightest

G25 is easy peasy
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:08 PM

Mizzy CLK with the Fuji Pro is high ball straight and easy

Mizzy CLK with the Speeder HB 70 is medium traj. straight and easy
TaylorMade M4 10.5*, Aldila RIP Beta 60S 44.75" 10gram weight, Golf Pride TW BLK, D4
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:14 PM

Pretty much every hybrid.  Unless you have Nicklaus forearms and can carve shots with 2 irons.  In which case you might fight a hook.

Cobra King LTD Black
Titleist 910FD 15° 3w
Callaway Apex 3-4 hybrid
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:51 PM

Great suggestions... Thanks! Time to start browsing.

Bag: PING Hoofer Camo
Driver: PING G30 11* SF Tec

Wood: Wishon 915HL 18*

Hybrid: Wishon 335HL 21*

Irons: Wishon Sterling SL 5-GW
Wedge: Vokey SM5 54/58/62*

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:54 PM

If you're hooking your hybrids, it's probably because you're not setting up correctly. Hybrids are meant to be hit like irons. When you hit them like fairway woods that's when the big hooks happen. Play them further back in your stance and hit down on them and they will go straight. And my vote is for the G25 hybrids. High, long, and straight all day long.
PING G400 Max 10.5° Aldila Rogue Silver 125 MSI TX 44.75"
Taylormade 2017 M1 15° 3 wood Diamana 'ahina 70 S
PING G25 20° Hybrid TFC 189 S
Titleist 915H 24° Dynamic Gold S300
Titleist 915H 27° Dynamic Gold S300
Mizuno MP-57 6-PW Dynamic Gold S300
PING Glide 54° SS KBS 610 125
PING Glide 58° TS KBS 610 125
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:03 PM

Another vote for 816 H1 - favorite club in my bag right now.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:43 PM

View Postdrumdude96, on 02 October 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

If you're hooking your hybrids, it's probably because you're not setting up correctly. Hybrids are meant to be hit like irons. When you hit them like fairway woods that's when the big hooks happen. Play them further back in your stance and hit down on them and they will go straight. And my vote is for the G25 hybrids. High, long, and straight all day long.

You are not totally wrong, but there are also people who can not hit hybrids with any consistency.  They will hook the bejesus out of them too often.  They are just a lot easier to turn over.

The Callaway Apex has been the best I've seen at resisting a hook.
Cobra King LTD Black
Titleist 910FD 15° 3w
Callaway Apex 3-4 hybrid
PING i200 5
PING iBlade 6 - PW
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:23 PM

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:36 PM

View Postdrumdude96, on 02 October 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

If you're hooking your hybrids, it's probably because you're not setting up correctly. Hybrids are meant to be hit like irons. When you hit them like fairway woods that's when the big hooks happen. Play them further back in your stance and hit down on them and they will go straight. And my vote is for the G25 hybrids. High, long, and straight all day long.

100% this. Its so fashionable to play the hook machine hybrid card. The only known case where its ALWAYS the arrow and not the Native American .

Edited by gbartko, 02 October 2018 - 05:46 PM.

Ping G400 10.5° [Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 80 S]
Ping 2014 Rapture 13° [Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 80 S]
Tour Edge Exotics CB4 Tour 16.5° [UST ProForce V2 75 S]
Ping G 19° [Ping Tour 90 S]
Ping S55 4-W [Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 120 S]
Ping Glide 54.5° ES / 60° ES [Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 125 Wedge S]
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:14 PM

Go online. Find the Adams Idea A7. I literally hit different ones for a few months a few years back and couldnt deny how easy and pure these were. I have the 2,3,&4. I usually dont carry all 3 at once but allow the conditions to determine the set up. These will be used and not expensive but worth every penny!

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:31 PM

Ping g30/g/g400. The set up so square to the ball. I love the look of them at address.
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Posted 04 October 2018 - 03:45 PM

View Posttobiasjd, on 02 October 2018 - 04:43 PM, said:

View Postdrumdude96, on 02 October 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

If you're hooking your hybrids, it's probably because you're not setting up correctly. Hybrids are meant to be hit like irons. When you hit them like fairway woods that's when the big hooks happen. Play them further back in your stance and hit down on them and they will go straight. And my vote is for the G25 hybrids. High, long, and straight all day long.

You are not totally wrong, but there are also people who can not hit hybrids with any consistency.  They will hook the bejesus out of them too often.  They are just a lot easier to turn over.

The Callaway Apex has been the best I've seen at resisting a hook.

Swing is always to blame for a shot, but clubs certainly can accentuate the issue. Hybrids are often closed / anti left in an attempt to alleviate the issues that the average golfer would have with a longer iron.. but then you have the pro models and theyre basically just shorter fairway woods (maybe even harder to hit, depending on loft.)

When you get into 18* hybrids, etc. theyre so long that the swing is gonna get flatter for someone whos not that tall, and mixing a flatter swing with an anti slice club, we have: hooks.
What's actually in the bag...
Callaway Epic SZ-9.0-Aldila X-Torsion Green Mamba-70TX
Callaway Epic SZ 15* - PX Handcrafted Yellow 75 6.5
Callaway Apex UT 21* - C- taper S+
Miura LH LTD Black Blades: 3-p w/ DG TI X7's.
Cleveland RTX 3: 50-54 w. C-Taper S+
Scratch 1018: 58 w/ C-Taper S+
Piretti Potenza / Odyssey MX #7

Others gamed on occasion:
Callaway BBA (2014)
Callaway 13 X Forged w/ AMT X100's (hard stepped once)
Scratch Golf 51,55,58,59
Wilson Staff Kirk Currie Milled

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 04:09 PM

818 h1. A wonderful club and arrow straight for me from tee or turf.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 04:45 AM

The Ping G line of hybrids from G25 and beyond super forgiving. The G400 crossover is another option to consider, similar launch and forgiveness but in an iron profile that doesnt have the huge and roll like a hybrid.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 06:45 AM

Titleist 816 h1
TM M4
Epic 15* or TM 200 smoothie 15* 1st run Accuflex Creation
816 H1 19*
816 H1 24*
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 04:18 PM

I think that the Rogue and Rogue X Hybrids are the best Hybrids Callaway has released. Those are worth a look.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:54 PM

Heavenwood not doing the job for you anymore?

Still in love with mine :)

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 08:06 AM

View PostTcann32, on 04 October 2018 - 03:45 PM, said:

View Posttobiasjd, on 02 October 2018 - 04:43 PM, said:

View Postdrumdude96, on 02 October 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

If you're hooking your hybrids, it's probably because you're not setting up correctly. Hybrids are meant to be hit like irons. When you hit them like fairway woods that's when the big hooks happen. Play them further back in your stance and hit down on them and they will go straight. And my vote is for the G25 hybrids. High, long, and straight all day long.

You are not totally wrong, but there are also people who can not hit hybrids with any consistency.  They will hook the bejesus out of them too often.  They are just a lot easier to turn over.

The Callaway Apex has been the best I've seen at resisting a hook.

Swing is always to blame for a shot, but clubs certainly can accentuate the issue. Hybrids are often closed / anti left in an attempt to alleviate the issues that the average golfer would have with a longer iron.. but then you have the pro models and theyre basically just shorter fairway woods (maybe even harder to hit, depending on loft.)

When you get into 18* hybrids, etc. theyre so long that the swing is gonna get flatter for someone whos not that tall, and mixing a flatter swing with an anti slice club, we have: hooks.

There was some excellent research by Ping that indicated many golfers line up hybrids off the toe and hit them on the toe side of the middle, even when they believe they are lined up on the center. Come into impact with a face closIng and a toe-side hit and theres your hook. The shape of the G400 is designed to counter this. All I do at address is shade my alignment slightly toward the heel with any hybrid and there are no hooks.

That said, the two most playable I have tried are the Ping and also the Cobra F8. They refined the rails with the F8 and it is excellent off any lie. I like the Ping Tour shaft more than the Cobra offerings.

Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
Callaway XHot2 Pro 3 wood, 15 degrees, Aldila Tour Green stiff shaft
Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
Titleist 816 H1 hybrid, 19 degree set to 20, Diamana Blue 60S shaft

Miura CB57 5-PW, Nippon Modus 125 stiff shafts, soft-stepped
Ping i200, 4-PW, power spec lofts, Dynamic Gold 120 stiff shafts
Mizuno S5 50-degree gap wedge, Nippon 1150 stiff shaft
Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
Callaway Mack Daddy 4 Raw, 58-degree wedge, X grind, DG S200 shaft
Edel Rogue putter (thick blade), 34 inch, 71 degree lie, 2 degrees loft, 100-gram round Pure grip
Argolf Avalon (small, semi-circle mallet) 34 inch, 71 degree lie, 2 degrees loft, 100-gram round Pure grip.

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