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#31 nsxguy

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 08:35 PM

 Shilgy, on 03 October 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

 nsxguy, on 02 October 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

 Shilgy, on 02 October 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

I have played the Srixon zstar xv all year. Buddy of mine switched to the avx and I tried a few. Problem I had was unexpected distances on iron shots, especially 7 iron and shorter. Would get the occasional ball that did not spin enough and flew an extra 15 yards. Very similar to catching a flyer.

+15 ? From the fairway ?

I get +5-6 and yes, it does take getting used to - have to adjust your distances on shots. Never had to do that with another ball.

It's OK thought - I like it !!! I feel SO much stronger.  :D

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It's not +15 all the time though. That's the problem. Like I said for me it's like catching a flyer. The occasional ball, couple times a round, will get a 12-15 yard jump. On irons that is awful.

You sure it's just not wind-aided or some such ?

I've been playing these for about 20 rounds now and I haven't seen anything like that. :dntknw:

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#32 playa

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 09:47 PM

 nsxguy, on 30 September 2018 - 08:20 AM, said:

 playa, on 30 September 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

 ashortgame, on 29 September 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

AVX is low flight, lower flight than Pro V1 and Pro V1x while the Z star is considerably higher ball flight. the Z star has a very similar trajectory to a Pro V1x but the feel is similar to a Pro V1.
No offense, but does anyone really believe that balls have any effect on flight?
There is nobody on this planet (with the possible exception of the great ball strikers like Tiger)  who could hit an AVX and a Z Star with the same club and notice one iota of difference in flight. Seriously!

No offense but are you seriously suggesting that all the aerodynamic research ball manufacturers have done over (especially) the last 20 years has produced balls where cover, layers and dimple patterns make absolutely NO difference ?

Seriously ?

Now, if your argument is that the difference is so small, that given every swing and every launch condition is slightly to quite a bit different, that nobody can tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I'd still disagree,,,,,,,,,,, but is IS a different argument. :)
My argument is that good golfers control their flight with technique and to a lesser degree clubs, not what type of ball they use. There are definitely differences in spin rates and how balls react on the greens, but choosing a ball to bring your flight down all other things being equal? Give me a break.

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#33 nsxguy

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 09:56 PM

 playa, on 03 October 2018 - 09:47 PM, said:

 nsxguy, on 30 September 2018 - 08:20 AM, said:

 playa, on 30 September 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

 ashortgame, on 29 September 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

AVX is low flight, lower flight than Pro V1 and Pro V1x while the Z star is considerably higher ball flight. the Z star has a very similar trajectory to a Pro V1x but the feel is similar to a Pro V1.
No offense, but does anyone really believe that balls have any effect on flight?
There is nobody on this planet (with the possible exception of the great ball strikers like Tiger)  who could hit an AVX and a Z Star with the same club and notice one iota of difference in flight. Seriously!

No offense but are you seriously suggesting that all the aerodynamic research ball manufacturers have done over (especially) the last 20 years has produced balls where cover, layers and dimple patterns make absolutely NO difference ?

Seriously ?

Now, if your argument is that the difference is so small, that given every swing and every launch condition is slightly to quite a bit different, that nobody can tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I'd still disagree,,,,,,,,,,, but is IS a different argument. :)
My argument is that good golfers control their flight with technique and to a lesser degree clubs, not what type of ball they use. There are definitely differences in spin rates and how balls react on the greens, but choosing a ball to bring your flight down all other things being equal? Give me a break.

Then you should be more clear when you MAKE your argument.

That aside, you are STILL wrong if you believe that dimples and construction have nothing to do with launch and flight.

Give ALL of us a break.
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 10:53 AM

I really like both balls. Overall, I think the Z Star is a better all-around ball. The AVX is low and long. If I'm playing for money I'm selecting the Z Star...possibly over all other balls, actually.
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 06:56 PM

 nsxguy, on 03 October 2018 - 08:35 PM, said:

 Shilgy, on 03 October 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

 nsxguy, on 02 October 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

 Shilgy, on 02 October 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

I have played the Srixon zstar xv all year. Buddy of mine switched to the avx and I tried a few. Problem I had was unexpected distances on iron shots, especially 7 iron and shorter. Would get the occasional ball that did not spin enough and flew an extra 15 yards. Very similar to catching a flyer.

+15 ? From the fairway ?

I get +5-6 and yes, it does take getting used to - have to adjust your distances on shots. Never had to do that with another ball.

It's OK thought - I like it !!! I feel SO much stronger.  :D

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It's not +15 all the time though. That's the problem. Like I said for me it's like catching a flyer. The occasional ball, couple times a round, will get a 12-15 yard jump. On irons that is awful.

You sure it's just not wind-aided or some such ?

I've been playing these for about 20 rounds now and I haven't seen anything like that. :dntknw:
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Posted 12 October 2018 - 05:30 PM

The AVX is closer to the Chrome Soft than it is the Z-Star.

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Posted Yesterday, 11:04 AM

I've played both balls a bit this summer, and both performed really well for me. As advertised, the Srixon had more spin around the green, and the AVX I could tell spun less off of full shots (a very straight ball).  Distance was comparable with both.  Both feel nice off the putter. I'd have no problems switching the two out, the Srixon for hard, fast courses, and the AVX for softer conditions.
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