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Installing Graphite Shafts PING G’s question


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#1 crperry00

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 06:54 PM

Hey guys,

I’m installing a set of steelfiber i110’s in my PING G irons. I’ve reshafted ping’s in the past so I know that the last 1/4” has a different taper and with steel shafts they have to be forced in to fit properly.

It’s my understanding that with graphite the easiest thing to do is add a little extra taper on the last 1/4” of the tip to allow it to fit properly. I wanted to verify that was correct and I was hoping someone might have some pics of how they trimmed the shafts to make them fit correctly.

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 09:38 PM

Yes that is correct. I have done a few sets this way. Just sand down the last 1/8 inch of the tip, wipe tip with acetone and install

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 09:45 PM

View PostTheBIIgCat, on 15 September 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

Yes that is correct. I have done a few sets this way. Just sand down the last 1/8 inch of the tip, wipe tip with acetone and install

Should it fit very snug like steel or should it just slide in?
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Posted 15 September 2018 - 10:09 PM

I make them so they are snug but slide in.

Steelfiber 110's have a high balance point so swingweighting may be a bit of a challenge.  Be sure to check swingweight before gluing up the clubs.  You may need to use tip weights.
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Posted 15 September 2018 - 10:13 PM

Gotcha I will make sure to check that. Thanks for the tip!

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 10:21 PM

View PostNessism, on 15 September 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

I make them so they are snug but slide in.

Steelfiber 110's have a high balance point so swingweighting may be a bit of a challenge.  Be sure to check swingweight before gluing up the clubs.  You may need to use tip weights.

Ness, what's your trick for getting them snug with a tip weight but still getting them to seat fully?

I have had issues with tip weights creating an air pocket and pushing the shaft out slightly.

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 03:16 AM

First get a good fit w/o the tip weight, then you should only need to add a small additional tip trim to account for the amount the tip weight extends pas the tip.  So the amount will depend on the type of tip weight used. e.g. the brass tip weights for graphite from Hireko and Billy Bob's don't really need any added tip trim.  The 2-4 gm lead weights need only about 1/8".   6 gm lead or the tungsten/rubber might need up to 1/4".

View PostRadeon962, on 15 September 2018 - 10:21 PM, said:

I have had issues with tip weights creating an air pocket and pushing the shaft out slightly.

Which tip weights were you using?  

Most should have an air channel but that can get plugged up with epoxy if you load up too much in the hosel before inserting the shaft.   It could also be an issue of needing to open up the ID of the shaft to better accommodate the tip weight stem.

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:30 AM

View PostStuart G., on 16 September 2018 - 03:16 AM, said:

First get a good fit w/o the tip weight, then you should only need to add a small additional tip trim to account for the amount the tip weight extends pas the tip.  So the amount will depend on the type of tip weight used.     e.g. the brass tip weights for graphite from Hireko and Billy Bob's don't really need any added tip trim.  The 2-4 gm lead weights need only about 1/8".   6 gm lead or the tungsten/rubber might need up to 1/4".

View PostRadeon962, on 15 September 2018 - 10:21 PM, said:

I have had issues with tip weights creating an air pocket and pushing the shaft out slightly.

Which tip weights were you using?  

Most should have an air channel but that can get plugged up with epoxy if you load up too much in the hosel before inserting the shaft.   It could also be an issue of needing to open up the ID of the shaft to better accommodate the tip weight stem.

Brass which seem or have the smallest air channel.

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 03:27 AM

View PostRadeon962, on 16 September 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:

View PostStuart G., on 16 September 2018 - 03:16 AM, said:

Most should have an air channel but that can get plugged up with epoxy if you load up too much in the hosel before inserting the shaft.   It could also be an issue of needing to open up the ID of the shaft to better accommodate the tip weight stem.

Brass which seem or have the smallest air channel.

Then it's likely getting plugged up with the epoxy so I'd suggest paying attention to the two things I mentioned above.

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:50 AM

I hate building graphite shafted irons when big swingweight issues present themselves because it's such a pain to get tip weights to play nice due to issues being mentioned here.  Some clubs like Ping's have a low insertion depth so I don't like giving up that for the (large) head of the common graphite shaft tip weight.  And of course there is that air lock issue that often presents itself regardless of how carefully we try to avoid it.  I've resorted to sticking the weight down into the hosel before the shaft even, but then getting the stem of the weight into the center of the shaft is another pain to deal with.

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:55 AM

View PostNessism, on 17 September 2018 - 07:50 AM, said:

I hate building graphite shafted irons when big swingweight issues present themselves because it's such a pain to get tip weights to play nice due to issues being mentioned here.  Some clubs like Ping's have a low insertion depth so I don't like giving up that for the (large) head of the common graphite shaft tip weight.  And of course there is that air lock issue that often presents itself regardless of how carefully we try to avoid it.  I've resorted to sticking the weight down into the hosel before the shaft even, but then getting the stem of the weight into the center of the shaft is another pain to deal with.

Same experience here, especially with installing graphite in older PING irons with no ferrules.  I have found it easier to add weight using lead tape in the cavities.  It's not pretty but I'm happier with the shaft installation and I can tweak the swingweights just right.

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