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#1 jgard320

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:19 PM

I just picked up an R9 superdeep to try out. Does anyone know how much length the head would add to a shaft? Usually I have found Taylormade heads to add 1.25” to a shaft, but will this head add more due to its depth?


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Posted 15 September 2018 - 02:45 AM

View Postjgard320, on 14 September 2018 - 08:19 PM, said:

I just picked up an R9 superdeep to try out. Does anyone know how much length the head would add to a shaft? Usually I have found Taylormade heads to add 1.25 to a shaft, but will this head add more due to its depth?

Get same 1.25" with the Super Deep head as the standard R9 head...
Shorter hosel neck length on the Super Deep head vs standard head.20180915_022513.jpg
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Posted 15 September 2018 - 02:54 AM

Depends how precise you want to be.   Believe BBGM is 1.75" - which would actually be more like 1-3/8" beyond the tip of the adapter.

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 03:14 AM

View PostStuart G., on 15 September 2018 - 02:54 AM, said:

Depends how precise you want to be.   Believe BBGM is 1.75" - which would actually be more like 1-3/8" beyond the tip of the adapter.

I thought of posting those same measurements, but did'nt want to confuse the Op.

Kept it simple , to how long a shaft with the adapter would play when plugged
into the Super Deep head. Did my measurements with a steel ruler down the
underside of shaft to floor. Too late/early to go down into basement shop
to measure on my bench. Probably explains the 1/8" difference in our numbers.

Edited by KRW59, 15 September 2018 - 03:21 AM.

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 03:49 AM

View PostKRW59, on 15 September 2018 - 03:14 AM, said:

I thought of posting those same measurements, but did'nt want to confuse the Op.

But you also don't want to cause (or leave) any confusion to any other reader as well.  The OP mentioned "adding to the shaft" but didn't clarify his distance was from the tip of the adapter vs the tip of the shaft.   My post was really more about making that aspect clear than it was about a difference in 1/8"

Edited by Stuart G., 15 September 2018 - 03:50 AM.


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Posted 15 September 2018 - 06:58 AM

So just to clarify....

1.75” to a shaft that is gripped but has no adapter.

1 3/8” to a shaft that has an adapter?

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 07:08 AM

And for further clarification...

I play my drivers short...recently from 44.5” back down to 43.75” in a Callaway head, most recently went back to the 815 alpha dbd.

I have a shaft that I would like to use, but I have zero experience with an r9 adapter and driver. Didn’t want to end up with something that was too short.

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 10:59 AM

View Postjgard320, on 15 September 2018 - 06:58 AM, said:

So just to clarify....

1.75 to a shaft that is gripped but has no adapter.

1 3/8 to a shaft that has an adapter?

Yes. Just re-checked my measurements . Stuart G was right.

Shaft only / no adapter / 42 3/4"
Shaft + adapter/ 43 3/8"
Shaft + adapter + Super Deep head / 44 1/2"

Now to muddy the waters a bit, some R9 adapter types.....20180915_095006.jpg

On the left is the original R9 adapter. All metal with a very short collared
ferrule that sat on top of it. Loft adjustable + 1* / -1*. It had right / left
neutral / neutral upright settings. This confused most people , so they changed
the wording on the next generation R9 / R11 edition...

Middle in picture,  Has plastic sleeve that covers the above hosel portion of
the adapter , and changed the wording for different settings to include the
words loft / lie , higher / lower , and neutral / +1* , -1*

Last , on the right was the special edition that was adjustable for loft
settings of + or - 1.5* /  3* degrees total . It also had the plastic sleeve.
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Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:11 AM

Thanks for the info. Looks like it will play the within 1/8” or same length if I swapped the callaway adapter with the r9 and played my shaft in the superdeep.

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 12:16 PM

View PostKRW59, on 15 September 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:


Yes. Just re-checked my measurements . Stuart G was right.

Shaft only / no adapter / 42 3/4"
Shaft + adapter/ 43 3/8"
Shaft + adapter + Super Deep head / 44 1/2"

If I was right, that should be 43-1/8" for the shaft+adapter.  (42-3/4 + 1-3/8)


View Postjgard320, on 15 September 2018 - 11:11 AM, said:

Thanks for the info. Looks like it will play the within 1/8” or same length if I swapped the callaway adapter with the r9 and played my shaft in the superdeep.

Just realize the numbers above (with the adapter) is only for the TM adapter - which extends ~3/8" past the tip of the shaft.  The Callaway adapters are a little different, they extend ~5/8" past the tip of the shaft.


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Posted 15 September 2018 - 01:23 PM

View PostStuart G., on 15 September 2018 - 12:16 PM, said:

View PostKRW59, on 15 September 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:


Yes. Just re-checked my measurements . Stuart G was right.

Shaft only / no adapter / 42 3/4"
Shaft + adapter/ 43 3/8"
Shaft + adapter + Super Deep head / 44 1/2"

If I was right, that should be 43-1/8" for the shaft+adapter.  (42-3/4 + 1-3/8)


View Postjgard320, on 15 September 2018 - 11:11 AM, said:

Thanks for the info. Looks like it will play the within 1/8 or same length if I swapped the callaway adapter with the r9 and played my shaft in the superdeep.

Just realize the numbers above (with the adapter) is only for the TM adapter - which extends ~3/8" past the tip of the shaft.  The Callaway adapters are a little different, they extend ~5/8" past the tip of the shaft.

My measurement with shaft and R9 adapter was 43 3/8" (checked again) so the length
adapter tip added to shaft was 5/8" , same as the Callaway adapter.

The Super Deep head only added another 1 1/8", to get to my total 44.5"length.

To simplify things I should have used a common denominator (8) for all my
measurement numbers or used the decimal equivalent which I actually  used
during measurement process.

Edited by KRW59, 15 September 2018 - 02:29 PM.

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 04:02 AM

I just checked again - old throw-out, over-prepped shaft (no chance of early binding), completely dry fit and brand new first gen adapter (so no old epoxy in the bore).

Adapter extended 7/16th's past the tip of the shaft.   Maybe a hair closer to 1/2" than 3/8".  But definitely not 5/8".


But the only thing this really confirms is that it's ALWAYS best to cut final playing length with the shaft installed in the adapter, and the adapter installed in the head and actually measuring out the playing length with the head installed.   These other measurements might help make sure we don't buy a shaft that's too short - but never cut based on just shaft (or shaft + adapter) length.

Edited by Stuart G., 16 September 2018 - 04:06 AM.


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:23 AM

Stuart was right again...I looked a little closer at my adapter tip used in all
my measurements. There was a little ring of epoxy at the bottom.

After cleaning , got the 7/16" measurement for added length to shaft, as he did.
.....subtract about 1/8" , or ignore , all my previous measurements,....

    Sorry for any confusion my carelessness may have caused.  K W
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