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Posted 25 September 2018 - 09:05 AM

 s1ten, on 25 September 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

I haven't received mine yet...got a call from the pro shop saying they were in but, appears Mizuno put, the wrong build sheet in my box.  Very interested to see how the tours play with modern lofts.  The shaft I liked the feel of picked up launch and spin a bit over my 900 with PX Lz 6.0 shafts.  I think Modern lofts with Modus 120 S with a 919 Forged 4I will check all the boxes for me hopefully.  My 900 tours were about 1/2 to 1 club shorter than my previous irons...modern loft will hopefully help gap my bag better as well.


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Posted 25 September 2018 - 11:15 AM

I have the 900 forged and play off between a 1.8-3 handicap during the year.  Why do I feel like even the tours are too much for me?  Am I giving up too much in forgiveness on off center hits?

What I do want is a little more spin, I play firm, championship greens at my course so it’s hard to say if a little more spin helps or if I just need to hit it higher.

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 07:59 PM



Just got went in for a fitting today for a free set of mizunos. Yes, I said free. I was the first in line at a PGA Superstore opening.  I currently own a combo set of the 900t & 900f. I went into today thinking I would walk out with a full set of the 919T.
The 919T were very very very underwhelming.  I thought they looked much bigger at address and the feeling was not as good as the 900T.  The MP18s outperformed the 919Ts in every way.  I was fitted for the C taper lite shaft and the MP18s felt noticeably better. The weight of the 919s compared to the 900s was heavier.  
I would pick up the 900T over the 919T if I had to pay for a set.  Brooks kept playing the 900T over playing the 919T if that says anything.

*i went with a mp18 6-pw & 4-5 MMC combo

Edited by Lhooley777, 25 September 2018 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 25 September 2018 - 08:08 PM

I am becoming more and more familiar with these clubs as time goes on. I did go 4 - 9 in Full Tour and am beyond impressed. In boarderline true blade fashion, I am getting out of them what I am giving into them. The forgiveness is there, a little bit. I'll just say, 4 iron blade, pured, is just a magical thing. These irons force you to get better.

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 08:30 PM

 Lhooley777, on 25 September 2018 - 07:59 PM, said:

Just got went in for a fitting today for a free set of mizunos. Yes, I said free. I was the first in line at a PGA Superstore opening.  I currently own a combo set of the 900t & 900f. I went into today thinking I would walk out with a full set of the 919T.
The 919T were very very very underwhelming.  I thought they looked much bigger at address and the feeling was not as good as the 900T.  The MP18s outperformed the 919Ts in every way.  I was fitted for the C taper lite shaft and the MP18s felt noticeably better. The weight of the 919s compared to the 900s was heavier.  
I would pick up the 900T over the 919T if I had to pay for a set.  Brooks kept playing the 900T over playing the 919T if that says anything.

*i went with a mp18 6-pw & 4-5 MMC combo

funny how different perceptions can be.  I was playing an MMC/MB combo and like the 919T a little better.

I thought the weight thing was just me, the 919 do feel heavy, and I love that.

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 08:41 PM

For those who have been playing the Tours curious if you find the forgiveness comparison made in this review to be accurate. Here is what I am referring to:

https://mygolfspy.co...9-irons-review/


Despite being a legitimate tour iron, the JPX919 Tour is not an unforgiving club. Mizuno uses a forgiveness metric called Sweet Area, which is the area of an ellipse representing the combined measured heel to toe and top to bottom MOI of an iron. The key point here is that the metric is born from measurements of actual parts and wasn’t created during the marketing department’s weekly meeting.

Under this metric, the 919 Tour is nearly as forgiving as the MP-18 MMC, a tick more forgiving than both the Callaway APEX CF16, Titleist AP3, and TaylorMade’s MP4. What’s notable is that 919 achieves this level of forgiveness, despite its compact tour profile, specifically, it’s shorter blade length.



If so, that's a lot of forgiveness for a players cavity aimed at higher handicappers, no?

Edited by hollowgram, 25 September 2018 - 11:54 PM.

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Posted 25 September 2018 - 10:02 PM

 hollowgram, on 25 September 2018 - 08:41 PM, said:

For those who have been playing the Tours curious if you find the forgiveness comparison Not allowed because of spam made in their review to be accurate.  Here is what I am referring to:

Despite being a legitimate tour iron, the JPX919 Tour is not an unforgiving club. Mizuno uses a forgiveness metric called Sweet Area, which is the area of an ellipse representing the combined measured heel to toe and top to bottom MOI of an iron. The key point here is that the metric is born from measurements of actual parts and wasn’t created during the marketing department’s weekly meeting.

Under this metric, the 919 Tour is nearly as forgiving as the MP-18 MMC, a tick more forgiving than both the Callaway APEX CF16, Titleist AP3, and TaylorMade’s MP4. What’s notable is that 919 achieves this level of forgiveness, despite its compact tour profile, specifically, it’s shorter blade length.


https://mygolfspy.co...9-irons-review/

If so, that's a lot of forgiveness for a players cavity aimed at higher handicappers, no?

I finally hit the 919 Tour and Forged tonight, and made a point of hitting them alongside the MP18 MMC for comparison.

On average the 919 Tour was only as midge shorter on carry than the MP18 MMC.  They looked incredibly similar dimension and offset-wise down by the ball.  They also felt very similar at impact, and they were both producing great results for me on both good and average strikes.  I would take either of these irons in a full set in a heartbeat, and I'm no single digit.

I got more front-to-back and side-to-side dispersion with the Forged, but in fairness I'd need to test them with a different shaft.

The 919 Tours have that 'new' factor going for them.  The MMCs have the ability to blend with the MBs going for them.  It would be a coin toss between them for me, as much as I can translate indoor performance to outdoor...

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Posted 26 September 2018 - 01:25 AM

For me also the Tours ave very forgiving. I hit one they on Monday and I was at full stretch with a 6 iron and it almost got thee , ended up pin high left, I was shocked.

Now comparison to mp25 certainly as forgiving or more, I am striking my irons very well right now though. I just need a day without lots of wind and cold to see for real.

Very soft when struck middle.

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Posted 26 September 2018 - 07:51 AM

Following this. My 900T are my favorite irons ever. When I get a chance to hit the 919 off grass with my shaft I’ll make a decision
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Posted 26 September 2018 - 07:01 PM

I went in two different times to hit the 919 Tour, Titleist AP2, and Srixon Z785. Like the 919 tour the best and ordered a set 5-PW. I have never hit the 900 tour but was really impressed with the 919 tour. Was surprised that they were much more forgiving than I would have thought. My mind has changed on what handicap can get away with the 919 tour, its higher than what I would have thought. Was debating on going 919 forged with the 5 iron. Hit the tour and forged 7 iron side by side and hit the tour so much better that I went tour throughout. Now the wait begins!

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Posted 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 04:08 AM

MP Fli-Hi in the 4-5 for me, play a 3H, not a 3iron.  I like the Fli-Hi's, but some are just doing 919F long irons.  There is a JPX fli-hi coming in February.
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:51 AM

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).

What do you hate about the t-mb? I had a tm 790 in 3 iron when I had the 730 blades, I first tried the t-mb and I thought it felt like crap compared to the 790. After playing it though, I think I almost like a players cavity for the long clubs better and something like a 790 for a true driving iron but the 790 felt really good. It was just such a jump from a blade to something like a 790 from the fairway and I think I hit a players cavity better.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 10:43 AM

 Redjeep83, on 27 September 2018 - 09:51 AM, said:

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).

What do you hate about the t-mb? I had a tm 790 in 3 iron when I had the 730 blades, I first tried the t-mb and I thought it felt like crap compared to the 790. After playing it though, I think I almost like a players cavity for the long clubs better and something like a 790 for a true driving iron but the 790 felt really good. It was just such a jump from a blade to something like a 790 from the fairway and I think I hit a players cavity better.

I didn't realize I hated it so much till I hit the 790 3 iron which is an absolute rocket and way more forgiving.  The feel of the TMB is bad, but the performance has been really bad for me, which is odd because I've played the same specs in the 712u and 716TMB.
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 11:12 AM

 getitdaily, on 14 September 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:

Love these irons. They helped me get an unused set of 900tours for cheap!

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 11:15 AM

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).

Titleist 816 H2 21* and I ordered a 919 Forged 4 iron...I'm hoping the gapping closer than previous...I had a little too much between the 900T 4 iron and my hybrid.

Edited by s1ten, 27 September 2018 - 11:17 AM.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 02:57 PM

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).
I still have a true hybrid for my 3 iron. I tried the MP Fli-Hi last year when I had a set of MP18-SC briefly last year.  Finally realized I just don’t get along with driving irons.
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 03:30 PM

 shakey, on 27 September 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).
I still have a true hybrid for my 3 iron. I tried the MP Fli-Hi last year when I had a set of MP18-SC briefly last year.  Finally realized I just don’t get along with driving irons.

Shakey are C Taper Lite's an upcharge?  Do you have a list showing what shafts are stock offerings vs. upcharge?
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 03:37 PM

 Pure745, on 27 September 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

 shakey, on 27 September 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).
I still have a true hybrid for my 3 iron. I tried the MP Fli-Hi last year when I had a set of MP18-SC briefly last year.  Finally realized I just don’t get along with driving irons.

Shakey are C Taper Lite's an upcharge?  Do you have a list showing what shafts are stock offerings vs. upcharge?

No upcharge. I can't find it on their site but TGW states $0 and I saw on IG from Roger Dunn that it's any shaft free. I'm going to presume any shaft that's free is a shaft they have.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 03:40 PM

 icec0ld, on 27 September 2018 - 03:37 PM, said:

 Pure745, on 27 September 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

 shakey, on 27 September 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).
I still have a true hybrid for my 3 iron. I tried the MP Fli-Hi last year when I had a set of MP18-SC briefly last year.  Finally realized I just don’t get along with driving irons.

Shakey are C Taper Lite's an upcharge?  Do you have a list showing what shafts are stock offerings vs. upcharge?

No upcharge. I can't find it on their site but TGW states $0 and I saw on IG from Roger Dunn that it's any shaft free. I'm going to presume any shaft that's free is a shaft they have.
Mizuno has no upcharge on most grips and shafts.
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 07:17 PM

 Pure745, on 27 September 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

 shakey, on 27 September 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

 Pure745, on 26 September 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

You guys with the 919T, what driving type of iron are you guys using in the 3 iron?  Getting fit for the 919T tomorrow, but I play a T-MB in the 3 iron (which I hate).
I still have a true hybrid for my 3 iron. I tried the MP Fli-Hi last year when I had a set of MP18-SC briefly last year.  Finally realized I just don’t get along with driving irons.

Shakey are C Taper Lite's an upcharge?  Do you have a list showing what shafts are stock offerings vs. upcharge?
See that someone beat me to the answer. Basically whatever they stock is no upcharge. Both shafts and grips.  Website should have all the options.
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 08:09 PM

Anybody know where I can order these with $ tapers? Mizuno doesn’t offer them as an option

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 08:37 PM

Pretty split between MP 18s and the JPX 919 Tours. Not sure which one I'll get but ask me any given day and I'll give you a different answer...ugh. I've hit both and both feel great.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 08:47 PM

 pallagrin, on 27 September 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

Pretty split between MP 18s and the JPX 919 Tours. Not sure which one I'll get but ask me any given day and I'll give you a different answer...ugh. I've hit both and both feel great.
I couldn't agree more.
While at golf Galaxy, I had them next to each other and just looked in awe at both.
Although, the 919 might have the edge by a smidge, for me.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 08:51 PM

 Fairwindsgolfer, on 27 September 2018 - 08:47 PM, said:

 pallagrin, on 27 September 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

Pretty split between MP 18s and the JPX 919 Tours. Not sure which one I'll get but ask me any given day and I'll give you a different answer...ugh. I've hit both and both feel great.
I couldn't agree more.
While at golf Galaxy, I had them next to each other and just looked in awe at both.
Although, the 919 might have the edge by a smidge, for me.

I said that before and then I went down a rabbit hole of looking at MP18 gear...lol. Today is a 919T day so we'll see how it goes. I'll probably make the purchase in the off season and get used to the clubs before spring. I don't think there's a wrong decision here but I like how the MP line has treated me so far.


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 08:53 PM

 pallagrin, on 27 September 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

 Fairwindsgolfer, on 27 September 2018 - 08:47 PM, said:

 pallagrin, on 27 September 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

Pretty split between MP 18s and the JPX 919 Tours. Not sure which one I'll get but ask me any given day and I'll give you a different answer...ugh. I've hit both and both feel great.
I couldn't agree more.
While at golf Galaxy, I had them next to each other and just looked in awe at both.
Although, the 919 might have the edge by a smidge, for me.

I said that before and then I went down a rabbit hole of looking at MP18 gear...lol. Today is a 919T day so we'll see how it goes. I'll probably make the purchase in the off season and get used to the clubs before spring. I don't think there's a wrong decision here but I like how the MP line has treated me so far.
Do you currently have the mp18 blades?


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 08:57 PM

 Fairwindsgolfer, on 27 September 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

 pallagrin, on 27 September 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

 Fairwindsgolfer, on 27 September 2018 - 08:47 PM, said:

 pallagrin, on 27 September 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

Pretty split between MP 18s and the JPX 919 Tours. Not sure which one I'll get but ask me any given day and I'll give you a different answer...ugh. I've hit both and both feel great.
I couldn't agree more.
While at golf Galaxy, I had them next to each other and just looked in awe at both.
Although, the 919 might have the edge by a smidge, for me.

I said that before and then I went down a rabbit hole of looking at MP18 gear...lol. Today is a 919T day so we'll see how it goes. I'll probably make the purchase in the off season and get used to the clubs before spring. I don't think there's a wrong decision here but I like how the MP line has treated me so far.
Do you currently have the mp18 blades?

Nah I have a MP-5 / 25 set up right now. If I go MP18 blades, I'll get the 6-PW set up with 4 and 5 being SCs. I've considered using the 4 and 5 as the 919T's but not sure if it'll sit right with me.

I'm coming off a bad range session which has helped to make this decision harder. On the plus side, hitting the MP18 6 iron hasn't been too bad as most my strikes were pure. Tried the 919T for a little bit but the salesman was being weird with everything.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:33 PM

What are these supposed to do that the SC doesn't?
Mizuno ST-180 10.5/Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 60s
Mizuno JPX 900 15/Fujikura Speeder 661s
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:52 PM

Im getting these in replacement of my Taylormade irons. I hope they are as easy to play with as the P770

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 10:50 PM

 MadGolfer76, on 27 September 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

What are these supposed to do that the SC doesn't?

A lot of reviews point that they're the same more or less (distance and dispersion). Pick one and rock it out!


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