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Diamana D+ Recent Success on Tour


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#1 mjbaker80

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 04:37 PM

Hey, fellas!

Wanted to start a thread in hopes of learning more from you all about the D+ LE.  It's having a heck of a run on tour....2 majors this year, Casey, TW.  Of course, all 3 players will be gaming at Ryder Cup.  (Yes, I know I don't swing as hard or as well as them).  But, what do people know about this shaft?  It's low/low but per MRC reps, it's not the lowest of low that they make.  

Any thoughts on what shafts it compares too?  Feel?  Spin?  Launch?

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't mildly interested in trying it seeing as I played a WB for years.  

Crazy that MRC was about to discontinue production of this shaft...my guess is they are rethinking that!

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 06:26 PM

I’m interested in this as well. It’s basically a low end white board right? KK and Tensei have been getting all the love recently but diamana is still the best for my money.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 06:29 PM

Currently have a Kura kage XD in my driver and Fuji p95x in my 3 wood...seriously considering going back to a 70 d+ in my driver and 90  d+ in my 3 wood

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 06:34 PM

It's really an evolution of the original whiteboard. Tensei is their high end shaft but the Diamana line isn't low end at all. Definitely a less refined feel than Tensei but performance is good. D+ is just basically your soft butt and stiff mid and tip profile, although they have strengthened up the butt section with some of the more recent iterations compared to the original flowerband whiteboard. I've hit every version of the whiteboard/D+ over the years from original 73x -> D+ 72 -> silver D+ 70 -> D+ LTD 70. The silver D+ felt and played most similar to the original. The 72 D+ played a little softer and the LTD plays the stoutest and lowest launch/spin out of any of them yet. It's a really solid shaft and great for controlling flight if the softer but section works with your swing. I think the TX versions of the LTD D+ shafts have some higher end material going on in the tip sections for added stability but I'd have to refresh my memory.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 07:19 PM

I’m intrigued as well. Ordered my TS woods with the D+ just to give it a try. Never played a whiteboard but it should be on paper a very good shaft for me.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 07:45 PM

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It’s probably still considered Mitsubishi’s flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a “made for” type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up.  Goes to show that you don’t need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 08:09 PM

INCREDIBLY helpful!  How would you compare it in launch spin to some of the other in its class....T1100, PO, Atmos Black....

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 08:18 PM

Recently added a D+ LTD to my shaft line-up.  It's the second most played shaft and it has some interesting properties.  For me it is a fairway finder and about 95% as long as my RIP Alpha.  The very first round I put it into play I hit 8 of 11 fairways, which is very good for me!

I did a distance and dispersion test on three of the big fairways on my favorite course.  I only compared it to one other shaft as I didn't have time to swap out more than one shaft on the tee.  The dispersion was very, very good to my target point.  And in 1 of the 3 tests it was the longest by a good 15 yards.  On the other two it was shorter by 10 yards or so.  So, on distance it was inconclusive, but for dispersion it seemed to offer an advantage for my swing.

I'm only playing a stiff, but I was concerned about reviews claiming it was very stout.  I've found just the opposite.  It's an incredibly smooth swinging shaft and very easy to load and release.  Honestly, I was very surprised.  I've also found it performs best for me with a smooth and controlled swing.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 11:26 PM

I play a d+ limited 70 stiff in my 910d2. Great feeling shaft. I dont swing super hard. 100-105. Way stiffer then the made for kai'li 60 stiff that it came with. And low launch, low spin is all relative. I have no issues hitting the ball high or shaping the ball. But it definitely flies straighter on well struck shots. Will also be playing this shaft in my 3 wood when it gets here. In the 80 gram version
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Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:57 AM

You're right, it was about to be a discontinued model before Tiger went back to it. Now they are making another run to meet demand.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 11:33 AM

Crazy what the Tiger impact is to equipment.

I bought driver pulls this past winter for $39 when was trying different weights in my Epic SZ.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:01 PM

Freaking Tiger. Now D+ pulls for less than $50 will be hard to find. :cry:
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Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:41 PM

 hardcaliber, on 06 September 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It's probably still considered Mitsubishi's flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a "made for" type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up.  Goes to show that you don't need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

It's technically the D+Plus Limited that those guys are playing.  If you look at the shaft you are kind of right that it is a cheaper model.  It's got a lot of Mitsubishi's design technology but none of the exotic materials i.e. MR70 fibers and boron.

I know it was on the chopping block but I'm sure they'll keep making them.  This is one reason why there is an advantage to putting Graphite Design shafts into play.  If you don't like to change shafts very often they keep producing basically all of their models for years.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:44 PM

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 01:30 PM

 sixtysevensixtyseven, on 07 September 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

 hardcaliber, on 06 September 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It's probably still considered Mitsubishi's flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a "made for" type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up.  Goes to show that you don't need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

It's technically the D+Plus Limited that those guys are playing.  If you look at the shaft you are kind of right that it is a cheaper model.  It's got a lot of Mitsubishi's design technology but none of the exotic materials i.e. MR70 fibers and boron.

I know it was on the chopping block but I'm sure they'll keep making them.  This is one reason why there is an advantage to putting Graphite Design shafts into play.  If you don't like to change shafts very often they keep producing basically all of their models for years.

Correct - my bad!  Topic should be D+ Limited Edition!


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 01:50 PM

 High Plains Driver, on 07 September 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

Freaking Tiger. Now D+ pulls for less than $50 will be hard to find. :cry:

Good thing it was never a shaft that worked for me. Now I'll get other premium pills from people who think they're tiger and grab a d+.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 02:43 PM

I’ve had my eye on PO for a while. Can’t prove it, but it seems like I’ve already seen prices dropping significantly the past month or whatever since tiger ditched it. Crazy is right. Shaft are like Highlander’s, there can be only one.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 05:29 PM

 mjbaker80, on 07 September 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

 sixtysevensixtyseven, on 07 September 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

 hardcaliber, on 06 September 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It's probably still considered Mitsubishi's flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a "made for" type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up.  Goes to show that you don't need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

It's technically the D+Plus Limited that those guys are playing.  If you look at the shaft you are kind of right that it is a cheaper model.  It's got a lot of Mitsubishi's design technology but none of the exotic materials i.e. MR70 fibers and boron.

I know it was on the chopping block but I'm sure they'll keep making them.  This is one reason why there is an advantage to putting Graphite Design shafts into play.  If you don't like to change shafts very often they keep producing basically all of their models for years.

Correct - my bad!  Topic should be D+ Limited Edition!

Don't forget the PLUS.  It might be the worst name ever for a shaft D+PLUS Limited Edition.

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 01:31 PM

How does this compare to the Pro white?

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 04:04 PM

Have played the d+ limited 70 stiff in my driver for a few rounds and am really liking it. So much so I got a 3 wood with that shaft but in 80gram. Played it today for the first time and really liked it. So smooth.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 06:47 PM

So for you guys that have played it, any other shafts in the market that you’d compare it to?

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 07:00 PM

Update.  I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today.  Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha.  The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition.  But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better.  It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already).  The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha.  Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever.  Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft.  I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining.  Trust me, this shaft has the juice.  For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder.  It excels for me in that area already.  I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway.  No lost balls today!
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Posted 09 September 2018 - 08:51 PM

 Moo, on 09 September 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Update.  I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today.  Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha.  The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition.  But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better.  It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already).  The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha.  Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever.  Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft.  I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining.  Trust me, this shaft has the juice.  For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder.  It excels for me in that area already.  I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway.  No lost balls today!

It is funny that whenever Tiger changes to a shaft that's been on the market for a couple years it becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread for some amateur in Michigan.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 08:55 PM

 sixtysevensixtyseven, on 09 September 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

 Moo, on 09 September 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Update.  I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today.  Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha.  The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition.  But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better.  It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already).  The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha.  Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever.  Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft.  I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining.  Trust me, this shaft has the juice.  For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder.  It excels for me in that area already.  I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway.  No lost balls today!

It is funny that whenever Tiger changes to a shaft that's been on the market for a couple years it becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread for some amateur in Michigan.

It's not funny, since I bought it before I even knew that Tiger was playing it.  I don't see that Tiger was playing a RIP Alpha ever, so you know, you're just a waste of time.

I guess I should run out and buy a CK Orange hun?
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Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:27 PM

To be fair, Tiger isn’t the only one using this shaft....Koepka...Casey.  It also won two majors this year....3 in the last two.  Not sure there’s another shaft that is in the bag of three Ryder Cup players, either.

But, yes, Tiger does move the needle and I’m guilty of foolishly wanted to try stuff that he uses.  That doesn’t seem to be the case for Moo, however.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:35 PM

 mjbaker80, on 09 September 2018 - 09:27 PM, said:

To be fair, Tiger isn’t the only one using this shaft....Koepka...Casey.  It also won two majors this year....3 in the last two.  Not sure there’s another shaft that is in the bag of three Ryder Cup players, either.

But, yes, Tiger does move the needle and I’m guilty of foolishly wanted to try stuff that he uses.  That doesn’t seem to be the case for Moo, however.

I had no idea those guys were using it.  Groovy!

I bought it on August 24th.  I don't even know when Tiger switched, but I think it was after that date.   In any event, I never said it was the greatest shaft or whatever.  Actually, I was pretty convinced it's not as long as what I have, but I am finding more fairways.  I guess if it was the really the greatest it would be the longest ever and every drive would be right in the middle and yada, yada.

I was just giving my honest opinion.  I'm digging it, but it's a big change in feel from what I've been swinging and that is also kinda messing me up a bit.
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#27 Jagpilotohio

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:52 PM

 Moo, on 09 September 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Update.  I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today.  Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha.  The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition.  But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better.  It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already).  The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha.  Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever.  Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft.  I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining.  Trust me, this shaft has the juice.  For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder.  It excels for me in that area already.  I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway.  No lost balls today!

Commit to it as your “primary shaft”??  This confuses  me.  Why would you  ever go back and forth between more than one shaft? Consistency is the name of the game in Golf. I played the same shaft  for nearly a decade.  grafalloy Blue. Went to a KKDC 70tx for two years to lower spin and I’m back with old faithful, the blue.

Definitely commit to one shaft and just play it.  A couple years down The road if you get an itch to try a new one that’s fine, but test them and then pick one. Then 100% commitment to it.  

Same thing and more so  with iron shafts.  Find a shaft that suits you and  play it until you’re too old to swing It anymore.  I played some special XX tour department Daiwa shafts for 20 years that I got when I was on staff with them in the 90’s until they were finally too stiff for me a few years ago.  Now I’ve been with KBS Tour V 120x for 30 months, no plans on switching again until they are too stiff in a decade or so, or until my arthritis gets so bad I need graphite.

I realize on this forum Most of us  love equipment, but everyone would do themselves a HUGE favor if they only switched heads when they want to be a club Ho and keep using the same shafts,
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Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:06 PM

 Jagpilotohio, on 09 September 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

 Moo, on 09 September 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Update.  I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today.  Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha.  The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition.  But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better.  It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already).  The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha.  Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever.  Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft.  I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining.  Trust me, this shaft has the juice.  For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder.  It excels for me in that area already.  I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway.  No lost balls today!

Commit to it as your “primary shaft”??  This confuses  me.  Why would you  ever go back and forth between more than one shaft? Consistency is the name of the game in Golf. I played the same shaft  for nearly a decade.  grafalloy Blue. Went to a KKDC 70tx for two years to lower spin and I’m back with old faithful, the blue.

Definitely commit to one shaft and just play it.  A couple years down The road if you get an itch to try a new one that’s fine, but test them and then pick one. Then 100% commitment to it.  

Same thing and more so  with iron shafts.  Find a shaft that suits you and  play it until you’re too old to swing It anymore.  I played some special XX tour department Daiwa shafts for 20 years that I got when I was on staff with them in the 90’s until they were finally too stiff for me a few years ago.  Now I’ve been with KBS Tour V 120x for 30 months, no plans on switching again until they are too stiff in a decade or so, or until my arthritis gets so bad I need graphite.

I realize on this forum Most of us  love equipment, but everyone would do themselves a HUGE favor if they only switched heads when they want to be a club Ho and keep using the same shafts,

I hear you, but I've only had it two weeks.  I have had the RIP for a long time.  And I busted my other back-up shaft and wanted to try something different.  I hit this shaft in a friend's club a couple of months ago and really liked it.

The reason for making a change is while I do hit the RIP Alpha pretty good, I always feel like it needs to be near the top of my power band, and I don't have that level every single time I play.  I have an old Diamana Blue in the basement, but it doesn't match my swing very well and it hits the ball too high.  I'm sure in a week or two I'll know if it is the right shaft for me.  I'm leaning that way, but on average it has been shorter than my RIP.  The decision is more fairways with the Diamana or longer with the RIP based on the play so far.

As for the club ho thing.  I'm totally not in that camp.  Until last year, I had the same irons for 8 or 9 years.  The same 5 wood for probably 12.  And the same putter for like 13 or 14.  I find something that works and pretty much keep it for a while.
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Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:16 PM

Are they using the d+ or the new DF

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:35 PM

D+ Limited Edition.  The only person that I know of that tried the DF was Rose.  He’s now back to the TPO


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