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#1 Lodestone

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 09:08 AM

I'm 65, and pretty much play with guys my age or older, and we've moved to the shorter  (senior or "gold) tees.  I'm still long enough that they are probably a tad too short, in that I seem to hit mostly  9 irons-A wedges if I hit decent drives, but if I play the next tees back I spend all day with 3 woods, and 3 hybrids, and often can't reach many greens even with 2 good hits...

However, none of that matters much, right now, because I ruptured my right achilles tendon Friday evening (pickle ball, I'm such a dumba$$)...so I suspect I'm done with golf until Spring.

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 09:43 AM

Bummer. But at least it’s at the end of the season and not the start. Good luck on your recovery.
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Posted 04 September 2018 - 10:23 AM

I'm 63 and don't play with the guys at my local club because they all play from the more forward tees. While I don't mind doing it occasionally, for me it gets boring real fast. So I mostly play by myself so I can play the tees I want to play.

Sorry to hear about your injury, but the silver lining here is that you have some time to get healed before next Spring. :)
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Posted 04 September 2018 - 10:40 AM

Best of luck with your Achilles' tendon. Rehab is the key! Regarding tee boxes, ask your playing partners if you can mix it up. Play a few holes from the gold, a few holes from the white, and maybe a few holes from the blue or black tees. Perhaps the guy with the honors has choice of tee box. Someone may know for sure, but I think Winged Foot does not have tee markers for the members, They simply let the guy with the honors choose were to stick the peg in the ground on each tee box.

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 10:52 AM

Good luck on the rehab.
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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:48 AM

View PostMoonlightgrm, on 04 September 2018 - 10:40 AM, said:

Best of luck with your Achilles' tendon. Rehab is the key! Regarding tee boxes, ask your playing partners if you can mix it up. Play a few holes from the gold, a few holes from the white, and maybe a few holes from the blue or black tees. Perhaps the guy with the honors has choice of tee box. Someone may know for sure, but I think Winged Foot does not have tee markers for the members, They simply let the guy with the honors choose were to stick the peg in the ground on each tee box.

Yep, and I've noticed more courses doing this recently, have a "hybrid" set of tees, either green/white or white/blue. Has the shorter set of tees on some of the longer holes, or holes with a forced carry, etc. and the longer tees on the rest.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:04 AM

View PostLodestone, on 04 September 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

I'm 65, and pretty much play with guys my age or older, and we've moved to the shorter  (senior or "gold) tees.  I'm still long enough that they are probably a tad too short, in that I seem to hit mostly  9 irons-A wedges if I hit decent drives, but if I play the next tees back I spend all day with 3 woods, and 3 hybrids, and often can't reach many greens even with 2 good hits...

However, none of that matters much, right now, because I ruptured my right achilles tendon Friday evening (pickle ball, I'm such a dumba$$)...so I suspect I'm done with golf until Spring.
The USGA has an official way for you to compete against players playing from different tees than you.  If you're unaware and interested, I'll describe it.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:08 AM

I had a complete tear of my left Achilles 22 months ago at age 29 and my left calf is still not as strong as it was pre-tear. Doesnít affect my golf game and I can still walk >18 holes just fine, but it is a bit irritating. Make sure you donít rush your recovery but once you get the okay to start therapy and certain activities, do as much as you can bear.

It also sounds like your course has a larger gap between tees than it should.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:17 AM

Sorry to hear about your injury.

I actually thought this really was a 'no tee' thread. I have played at few courses that had 'no tee's' and who ever had the Honour choose the tee location. It was rightly fun!

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 06:26 AM

View Post2bGood, on 05 September 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

Sorry to hear about your injury.

I actually thought this really was a 'no tee' thread. I have played at few courses that had 'no tee's' and who ever had the Honour choose the tee location. It was rightly fun!
Iíve done the chipping/putting version of that, called HORSE or something similar (like the basketball game) but never for full holes. That does sound like it could be fun.

Weíve played cross-country golf at my course in the evenings or slow afternoons before. Everyone tees off on 1 but is playing to the cup on 3 (which makes it an 870 yard par 7 usually) and other similar made up holes. Itís interesting playing into greens from a totally new direction with an unusual club, or having to decide whether you go over a stand of trees or around, etc.


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:31 AM

View Postsuprfli6, on 05 September 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

I had a complete tear of my left Achilles 22 months ago at age 29 and my left calf is still not as strong as it was pre-tear. Doesn't affect my golf game and I can still walk >18 holes just fine, but it is a bit irritating. Make sure you don't rush your recovery but once you get the okay to start therapy and certain activities, do as much as you can bear.

It also sounds like your course has a larger gap between tees than it should.

as far as the tees go, yes, too big of a gap. It's a muni course, shoestring budget, with which the greenskeeper does an amazing job.  Basically they just either use the front of the White tee boxes, or go to the women's tee boxes.  A friend of mine while visiting told me his pals play what they call the "hybrid" tees, whereby they play the whites on the easier holes, and the yellows on the harder holes. Makes perfect sense but you can't get a GHIN number that way.

as far as the achilles, I am going the non-surgical route. Currently all casted up as of yesterday. Last night was my first night ever sleeping with a cast. This will take some getting used to.  But we get through it because we have no other choice, right?
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:20 PM

View PostLodestone, on 07 September 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

View Postsuprfli6, on 05 September 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

I had a complete tear of my left Achilles 22 months ago at age 29 and my left calf is still not as strong as it was pre-tear. Doesn't affect my golf game and I can still walk >18 holes just fine, but it is a bit irritating. Make sure you don't rush your recovery but once you get the okay to start therapy and certain activities, do as much as you can bear.

It also sounds like your course has a larger gap between tees than it should.

as far as the tees go, yes, too big of a gap. It's a muni course, shoestring budget, with which the greenskeeper does an amazing job.  Basically they just either use the front of the White tee boxes, or go to the women's tee boxes.  A friend of mine while visiting told me his pals play what they call the "hybrid" tees, whereby they play the whites on the easier holes, and the yellows on the harder holes. Makes perfect sense but you can't get a GHIN number that way.

as far as the achilles, I am going the non-surgical route. Currently all casted up as of yesterday. Last night was my first night ever sleeping with a cast. This will take some getting used to.  But we get through it because we have no other choice, right?
Actually you can post scores for mixed tees even if the course doesn't have them officially rated that way.  Assuming the shorter tees are rated, you simply count up the difference in yardage on the holes where you play from the longer tees, use that total in the USGA adjustment lookup table (gender specific - you can find it on the USGA web site), add the stroke and slope differences to the shorter tee rating/slope, and then manually post against that new rating/slope you created.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:25 PM

66 here, drive it about 200 on average.  I play from 5500 to 5800 yard tees and can reach most greens in reg with a 6i or less.  Anything over 6K yards and my FW metals get a workout.

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:50 PM

Here are the adjustment tables:

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 01:32 AM

have you got a link to those tables?


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Posted 15 September 2018 - 04:32 AM

View PostNewby, on 15 September 2018 - 01:32 AM, said:

have you got a link to those tables?

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 05:43 AM

Thanks

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