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#91 heavy_hitter

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 06:28 PM

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 07:26 PM

Don't let him go skiing.

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 07:49 PM

View Postyellowlover519, on 25 August 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

View Postjigsaw1011, on 25 August 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

My son was at that DCP held at Bethpage.  The kids are hitting off a tee box on top of a huge hill (it is used for sled riding in the winter).  It was downwind that day so,yes, the driving results are skewed.

It wasn't more than 30 yards skewed.  I would say maybe 20 yards.  Downwind?  Like 5 mph?  It wasn't blowing fiercely.  Elevated, yes.  I mentioned that originally.  But no more than 20 yards.  It's not like they were hitting off a cliff.  If you want a visual, 1 on green is pretty much a shorter mirror of 1 off Black.  So that's the elevation and tee shot (think 1 off bethpage black or YouTube it).  My point is that those are true measured numbers to give an idea of how far kids hit.  Subtract 20 yards.  Still should give a decent idea.  The 10-11 girl that won is like 5'6".  They did let kids hit real chrome softs.

I know one of the girls in the 7-8 year old and its probably off by 50-60 yards. We played with her, and friend of ours has as well. Unless since worlds she gained 60 yards off the tee I'd say these numbers are very skewed. But given the course setup and conditions it is what it is.

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 08:21 PM

View Postdarter79, on 26 August 2018 - 07:49 PM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 25 August 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

View Postjigsaw1011, on 25 August 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

My son was at that DCP held at Bethpage.  The kids are hitting off a tee box on top of a huge hill (it is used for sled riding in the winter).  It was downwind that day so,yes, the driving results are skewed.

It wasn't more than 30 yards skewed.  I would say maybe 20 yards.  Downwind?  Like 5 mph?  It wasn't blowing fiercely.  Elevated, yes.  I mentioned that originally.  But no more than 20 yards.  It's not like they were hitting off a cliff.  If you want a visual, 1 on green is pretty much a shorter mirror of 1 off Black.  So that's the elevation and tee shot (think 1 off bethpage black or YouTube it).  My point is that those are true measured numbers to give an idea of how far kids hit.  Subtract 20 yards.  Still should give a decent idea.  The 10-11 girl that won is like 5'6".  They did let kids hit real chrome softs.

I know one of the girls in the 7-8 year old and its probably off by 50-60 yards. We played with her, and friend of ours has as well. Unless since worlds she gained 60 yards off the tee I'd say these numbers are very skewed. But given the course setup and conditions it is what it is.

How far did your daughter out drive her?

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 06:37 AM

View Postdarter79, on 26 August 2018 - 07:49 PM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 25 August 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

View Postjigsaw1011, on 25 August 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

My son was at that DCP held at Bethpage.  The kids are hitting off a tee box on top of a huge hill (it is used for sled riding in the winter).  It was downwind that day so,yes, the driving results are skewed.

It wasn't more than 30 yards skewed.  I would say maybe 20 yards.  Downwind?  Like 5 mph?  It wasn't blowing fiercely.  Elevated, yes.  I mentioned that originally.  But no more than 20 yards.  It's not like they were hitting off a cliff.  If you want a visual, 1 on green is pretty much a shorter mirror of 1 off Black.  So that's the elevation and tee shot (think 1 off bethpage black or YouTube it).  My point is that those are true measured numbers to give an idea of how far kids hit.  Subtract 20 yards.  Still should give a decent idea.  The 10-11 girl that won is like 5'6".  They did let kids hit real chrome softs.

I know one of the girls in the 7-8 year old and its probably off by 50-60 yards. We played with her, and friend of ours has as well. Unless since worlds she gained 60 yards off the tee I'd say these numbers are very skewed. But given the course setup and conditions it is what it is.

In younger players, I can see this being the case.  It was soggy at Pinehurst this year with little to no roll out.  When you hit a knuckle ball at a low launch angle (like most 7 year olds), Iím sure the elevation and roll out came more into play.  Iím talking about the older divisions.  I saw no more than 20 yards in distance gain due to set up.  The only point was to confirm what others have said - boys 9-10 at the upper levels of swing speed all drive 180+.

Edited by yellowlover519, 27 August 2018 - 06:39 AM.


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Posted 27 August 2018 - 12:55 PM

View Postyellowlover519, on 25 August 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

View Postjigsaw1011, on 25 August 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

My son was at that DCP held at Bethpage.  The kids are hitting off a tee box on top of a huge hill (it is used for sled riding in the winter).  It was downwind that day so,yes, the driving results are skewed.

It wasn't more than 30 yards skewed.  I would say maybe 20 yards.  Downwind?  Like 5 mph?  It wasn't blowing fiercely.  Elevated, yes.  I mentioned that originally.  But no more than 20 yards.  It's not like they were hitting off a cliff.  If you want a visual, 1 on green is pretty much a shorter mirror of 1 off Black.  So that's the elevation and tee shot (think 1 off bethpage black or YouTube it).  My point is that those are true measured numbers to give an idea of how far kids hit.  Subtract 20 yards.  Still should give a decent idea.  The 10-11 girl that won is like 5'6".  They did let kids hit real chrome softs.

Isn't this highly dependent on launch angle?

I would have thought that the effect due to elevation on two tee shots with exact same ball speed, a higher launch is likely to have less increase in distance from the elevated tee box than a tee shot with a lower launch angle.

And FWIW anecdotally, I have seen some of the players on that leader board in person.  Many of them cannot come close to their DCP yardages minus 20-30yds - probably closer to minus 40-50yds.  For some of the others, 20yds might be an reasonable approximation.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 01:51 PM

This was the elevation of the tee shot:

http://www.dailymail...tres-below.html

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 06:02 PM

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:38 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 16 September 2018 - 06:02 PM, said:

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Ouch. That's gonna sting.

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:23 PM

Damn you guys are brutal!!!!


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Posted 17 September 2018 - 12:02 AM

View Postkekoa, on 16 September 2018 - 11:23 PM, said:

Damn you guys are brutal!!!!
Nice playing this weekend!

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 05:30 AM

View Postkekoa, on 16 September 2018 - 11:23 PM, said:

Damn you guys are brutal!!!!

Congrats to Ben.

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:01 AM

View Postleezer99, on 17 September 2018 - 12:02 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 16 September 2018 - 11:23 PM, said:

Damn you guys are brutal!!!!
Nice playing this weekend!

thanks man

View Postheavy_hitter, on 17 September 2018 - 05:30 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 16 September 2018 - 11:23 PM, said:

Damn you guys are brutal!!!!

Congrats to Ben.

Thank you sir.  Played steady all weekend, but it was an exciting finish to say the least.

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