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Posted 07 December 2018 - 07:45 AM

So it looks like the snow stays south of us but we're going into one of those 7 day periods of wind chills at or below freezing the whole time. Cant wait to get in next week and test out the Mevo.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 07:53 AM

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:14 AM

Yeamans Hall reminds me of Elkridge in Balto. I think it is not cheap to join either. Square greens, Redans and very square tee boxes.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:20 AM

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View Postdcmidnight, on 07 December 2018 - 07:28 AM, said:

When my wife was considering jobs in Charleston I started looking at private options down there and there are two amazing Reynor designs that are just stunning to look at. Yeamans Hall has some old school greens, a lot of them with squared corners. Stuff that you just know would never get approved to be built on a new course in 2018.
He also says how SOME people don't like the routing because it doesn't use the lake, but that he knew the best layout was inland because of the ravine.

Also something that wouldn't happen today.

There are a couple of courses near here that I feel do that.  At Potomac Shores, you never see the Potomac's shore.  Lansdowne has plenty of holes that front the river, but the view is entirely blocked out by trees.  I assume in both cases it's some sort of environmental restriction by the state, not a design choice.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:24 AM

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There are a couple of courses near here that I feel do that.  At Potomac Shores, you never see the Potomac's shore.  Lansdowne has plenty of holes that front the river, but the view is entirely blocked out by trees.  I assume in both cases it's some sort of environmental restriction by the state, not a design choice.

Even if you cut down all the trees, PoSho really only has a couple holes that are even near the water - the rest are all inland.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:27 AM

Unfortunately we have the same issue at SPCC. The water views need to be improved. That should happen with the new redesign. Getting holes closer to the water is a problem with restrictions but cutting trees down will happen to clear site lines.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:32 AM

Queenstown doesn't really use the Bay at all. It's sort of there on a couple holes, but I'm always disappointed when i'm there because I want more Bay.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:37 AM

I've only played the Queenstown Harbor River Course once.  Will not bang again.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:38 AM

The one hole you can see the river on it get like a wind tunnel between the trees. Queenstown is almost always open when it snows here. I go there to play in the winter and it is cold wind.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:43 AM

View PostSullGolf, on 07 December 2018 - 08:20 AM, said:

View PostTheCityGame, on 07 December 2018 - 07:34 AM, said:

View Postdcmidnight, on 07 December 2018 - 07:28 AM, said:

When my wife was considering jobs in Charleston I started looking at private options down there and there are two amazing Reynor designs that are just stunning to look at. Yeamans Hall has some old school greens, a lot of them with squared corners. Stuff that you just know would never get approved to be built on a new course in 2018.
He also says how SOME people don't like the routing because it doesn't use the lake, but that he knew the best layout was inland because of the ravine.

Also something that wouldn't happen today.

There are a couple of courses near here that I feel do that.  At Potomac Shores, you never see the Potomac's shore.  Lansdowne has plenty of holes that front the river, but the view is entirely blocked out by trees.  I assume in both cases it's some sort of environmental restriction by the state, not a design choice.

I've logged about 50 rounds total at both courses at Lansdowne.  You're right, there's not much of a view of the river unless you're peaking through the trees.  But a lot of times, the river can come to you. Just the mere thought of rain raises the Potomac river to flood the courses with entire holes under a couple feet of water.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:44 AM

I cant think of any really great courses on the water in the area where you can actually see a lot of the water.

The Country Club at Haines Point comes closest.

Swan Point maybe the most underrated but while that three or four hole stretch is amazing - thats it. Bonus points for hitting Captain Johns Crab Shack after golf though.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:47 AM

Rocky Point has a couple water view holes.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:48 AM

Lake woodmore is a beautiful, significant body of water.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:53 AM

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I cant think of any really great courses on the water in the area where you can actually see a lot of the water.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:53 AM

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Lake woodmore is a beautiful, significant body of water.

Eagle wont invite me out to play. I guess because he knows I wont join, no use having me out for a round.

(thats an absolute lie)

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:54 AM

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I cant think of any really great courses on the water in the area where you can actually see a lot of the water.

The Country Club at Haines Point comes closest.

Swan Point maybe the most underrated but while that three or four hole stretch is amazing - thats it. Bonus points for hitting Captain Johns Crab Shack after golf though.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:01 AM

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I cant think of any really great courses on the water in the area where you can actually see a lot of the water.

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Impossible to top that week.

Spent the weekend at RTJ and then played Caves a few days later.

Man that was so fun.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:07 AM

Hive Tommy’s dad is a member at RTJ. I’d play there more often if it wasn’t for the steep guest rate.

DC - hit me up if you wanna get out at woodmore. I’m thinking of loading up on some cheap guest passes but they have a rack rate as well. I’m sure you have a member for a day pass on your email from eagle as well.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:13 AM

Also I was trolling lake woodmore is most certainly a man made mud bath
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:14 AM

Pine Ridge has the water feature into the course just enough.

You hit over the reservoir to holes 8 and 14.

You can hook one into the water on 11 or 15 pretty easily or 4 less easily (or 5 if you're a lefty who swings 120 mph). But beyond that, there are some nice views over the water. From the 8th tee box, there's a long, unobstructed view over the water. Looking back from the 12th tee, you can see the 15th green and a large expanse of water, and also from the whole length of the 15th hole and 16th tee. There's nice "tree framed" (tree obstructed?) views from 2nd/18th tee boxes, 2 green/3 tee.

Rocky point is on the bay, which is cool, but you barely get the water. The 11th is sweet, but the water isn't really in play. 14/15 sort of have views of the little estuary, or whatever that inlet is called. But, in reality RP always disappoints me because it doesn't use the water enough.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:24 AM

View PostHighBoomingDraws, on 07 December 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:

Also I was trolling lake woodmore is most certainly a man made mud bath
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:38 AM

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Pine Ridge has the water feature into the course just enough.

You hit over the reservoir to holes 8 and 14.

You can hook one into the water on 11 or 15 pretty easily or 4 less easily (or 5 if you're a lefty who swings 120 mph). But beyond that, there are some nice views over the water. From the 8th tee box, there's a long, unobstructed view over the water. Looking back from the 12th tee, you can see the 15th green and a large expanse of water, and also from the whole length of the 15th hole and 16th tee. There's nice "tree framed" (tree obstructed?) views from 2nd/18th tee boxes, 2 green/3 tee.

Rocky point is on the bay, which is cool, but you barely get the water. The 11th is sweet, but the water isn't really in play. 14/15 sort of have views of the little estuary, or whatever that inlet is called. But, in reality RP always disappoints me because it doesn't use the water enough.

I wish Pine Ridge was closer to me.  I really enjoy that course.  Between the travel distance, and need to tee off first or face a very long round, it's just not really in my rota.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:40 AM

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I wish Pine Ridge was closer to me.  I really enjoy that course.  Between the travel distance, and need to tee off first or face a very long round, it's just not really in my rota.

I believe this. PR is still where my aunt/uncle play, its only a few miles from where they live in Towson.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:45 AM

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Hive Tommy’s dad is a member at RTJ. I’d play there more often if it wasn’t for the steep guest rate.


What's the guest rate?  Plus caddie fees/tips right?  I need to play there once.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:47 AM

If Pine Ridge lost a thousand trees and has the conditions of Waverly, you could charge 90 bucks.

Shoot, given that it's booked wall to wall every day, you could probably charge 90 bucks now.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:56 AM

I think 27 holes with a caddy at RTJ last year was approaching $250 after tips and all that.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:00 AM

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I think 27 holes with a caddy at RTJ last year was approaching $250 after tips and all that.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:02 AM

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I think 27 holes with a caddy at RTJ last year was approaching $250 after tips and all that.

I'm happy to do that if the opportunity ever arises.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:05 AM

View PostHighBoomingDraws, on 07 December 2018 - 09:56 AM, said:

I think 27 holes with a caddy at RTJ last year was approaching $250 after tips and all that.

This sounds about right. There were 7 of us and the member and so we just chopped everything for the rounds/meals for two days - so $250 seems in line with that.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:10 AM

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View PostHighBoomingDraws, on 07 December 2018 - 09:56 AM, said:

I think 27 holes with a caddy at RTJ last year was approaching $250 after tips and all that.

I'm happy to do that if the opportunity ever arises.

Same here!

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