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Srixon/Cleveland RTX 4 wedges - 2018


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#31 frj76

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:50 AM

For SM7 Titleist added more offset, RTX4 removes the offset. Haven't had Cleveland wedges in my bag for kinda 10 years but this is the return of the king, Welcome home!
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:23 AM

Wow!  Love the no offset and std shaft.  Look forward to trying these out

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:10 AM

View PostGolf64, on 07 August 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

Is it me, or are the bounces getting less? These and Glide Forged? This the new trend!? :to_become_senile:

They are still offering pretty much standard bounce configurations.  But they will be introducing I think the lowest "stock" bounce on a wedge in the industry...3 degrees on one loft.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:20 PM

Spoke w/ Cleveland this morning and they are saying mid September.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:36 PM

View PostRH82, on 08 August 2018 - 02:20 PM, said:

Spoke w/ Cleveland this morning and they are saying mid September.

This is correct.  The new Cleveland and Srixon stuff launches on the 14th of Sept.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 01:41 PM

These looks great. Big improvement over the last model.
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Posted 11 August 2018 - 03:12 PM

Half hearted, five minute review from Rick Shiels. Obviously Cleveland didn't pay as much for the content...

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 03:38 PM

These look fantastic! Canít wait to hear how much of an improvement these are over the RTX-3s and whether it will be worth upgrading.

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:03 AM

Ill take a set in LH please! thanks

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:47 PM


Anyone notice that the 54.10 Full Grind did not make it to retail nor did the 60.06 Full Grind (the 60.09 Full Grind did).  What's up with that?

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 07:16 AM

Any sign of a cb version?
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:20 AM

No.  The CB versions will be released in alternate years from these
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 09:07 AM

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Email this morning from Cleveland/Srixon says pre-sale is August 31.  Stock shaft is the TI S400 with a Tour Velvet grip.

Straight leading edge, little offset, nice grind options, and a good stock shaft.  I like my vokeys, but these have a strong chance of knocking them out of my bag.

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 07:10 PM

Not sure if this is allowed, but I just posted RTX 4 set on BTS. 52, 56, and 60 in tour satin and black satin. Here's a side by side of 60* HiToe, RTX 4, and SM6.

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:46 PM

I like how RTX4 looks better than others. Hope to see a black version!


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:50 PM

From that view - the hi-toe looks the best to me.

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:48 PM

Anyone notice what appears to be deep curved milling on the toe area?  Looks like if you open the face up it will act as additional grooves like the PM Grind and Hi-Toe.  Can anyone confirm this is an actual feature of the new RTX4?

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Posted 19 August 2018 - 12:52 PM

View Post4rheel, on 16 August 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

Anyone notice what appears to be deep curved milling on the toe area?  Looks like if you open the face up it will act as additional grooves like the PM Grind and Hi-Toe.  Can anyone confirm this is an actual feature of the new RTX4?
I thought something similar, but rep told me it’s not meant to work as grooves by design.

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 04:34 PM

My RTX4 Tour Raws just landed! Looking forward to getting outside on the course to give them a spin in a few minutes.  

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 04:44 PM

View Postchris975d, on 22 August 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

My RTX4 Tour Raws just landed! Looking forward to getting outside on the course to give them a spin in a few minutes.  

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Report back ASAP!

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 04:55 PM

View Postchris975d, on 22 August 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

My RTX4 Tour Raws just landed! Looking forward to getting outside on the course to give them a spin in a few minutes.  

Lucky!  I'm dying.  Mine are scheduled for delivery tomorrow.  Probably won't get out until Friday with them.
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Posted 22 August 2018 - 05:03 PM

View Postblink3665, on 22 August 2018 - 04:55 PM, said:

View Postchris975d, on 22 August 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

My RTX4 Tour Raws just landed! Looking forward to getting outside on the course to give them a spin in a few minutes.  

Lucky!  I'm dying.  Mine are scheduled for delivery tomorrow.  Probably won't get out until Friday with them.
Mine are scheduled for Friday. Directly to the range they will go to see if they will get to see some tournament action this weekend.

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 07:19 PM

View Postleftygolferessex, on 22 August 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

View Postchris975d, on 22 August 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

My RTX4 Tour Raws just landed! Looking forward to getting outside on the course to give them a spin in a few minutes.  

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Report back ASAP!

Damn do I wish they offered us lefties tour raw

Well...just finished 9 holes with them.  And...holy s***!!! I haven't had a wedge feel this good, nor spin like this in a LONG time.  And I've been in the golf business for 25 years, and playing longer than that.  My rep had warned me that the spin was going to be high, in a good way, but the very first shot I hit with one (54*) was a penalty drop from a hazard, into our bermuda rough, which I let get pretty damn thick this time of year.  My other wedges cannot spin it out of this stuff, but hearing my rep in the back of my head, I played right at the pin.   One hop, hit, dead stop about 4 feet left of the pin.   About 2-3 feet from its pitch mark.  My assistant who was playing with me just looked across the fairway at me shaking his head.  Par save from the crap.  And the feel was STUPIDLY good.

Throughout the round I quickly learned that I could be very aggressive with them, and no s***, had 3 short pitch shots (15-30 yards) that stopped within a foot of the hole,2 of them within 4 inches.  Like playing velcro darts.  

And I'm not typically a high spin player with short game.  I purposely like (or did like) to let the ball release hole 5-8 feet.  But again, my rep has been telling me since we started talking about these that they stop quickly if I try them.  So I went in to today throwing it as close as I could get it to the pin, and was rewarded with some seriously cool looking and GREAT feeling shots.  

And when I say they spin like crazy, I don't mean they are uncontrollable spin (at least for me).  The thing I found out about the "spin" (and was seriously impressive to me) is that the stopping power/spin is crazy consistent from different lies.  Like those out of rough 15-20 yard chips from our gnarly bermuda rough when I missed some greens still had as much spin as from a closely mown approach area or fairway.  That first shot I described above from 1.75" THICK bermuda with the ball nestled down in it spun like it was on a fairway.  With that kind of spin from the rough, you (or at least I) would think that the spin from a full shot from the fairway would be almost uncontrollable, yet it wasn't at all.  It was honestly just a slight increase in spin (for me), and not unplayable or hard to adjust to in the slightest.  It's like the wedges could put a consistent amount of spin on the ball regardless of lie, which was AWESOME to me.  

I'm EXTREMELY pleased with the first go 'round with these wedges.  I'm actually really pissed that I put my assistant on the Srixon/Cleveland staff deal, and not me!  I had to pay for mine, but seem to be worth every penny.  It's been a long time (probably original Cleveland 588 days) since I've hit wedge shots and instantly smiled at just the feel off the face before even looking toward the hole to see the results...I mean the feel at impact, and just the way you can "feel" the spin and the grab on the club.  They feel like forged weapons.   I hope this isn't just a honeymoon phase!

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 11:21 PM

To anyone who has seen them in person: How does the black finish look in comparison to the black finish of the RTX3?
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Posted 23 August 2018 - 12:52 AM

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To anyone who has seen them in person: How does the black finish look in comparison to the black finish of the RTX3?

I will try and give a report tomorrow. I played the black finish on the RTX-3s and am one of the few that actually loved them. I have the RTX-4s now and am playing my first round with them tomorrow.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 12:15 PM

is the V-grind toned down in the 54?

My only gripe with the RTX3 54* I use is that it sucks out of the bunker and I suspect it is the vgrind. I wish 54 was offered in full grind.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 01:58 PM

View PostJ_Birdie, on 23 August 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

is the V-grind toned down in the 54?

My only gripe with the RTX4 54* I use is that it sucks out of the bunker and I suspect it is the vgrind. I wish 54 was offered in full grind.

I totally agree. The full grind is offered in the 56, but not the 54.
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Posted 23 August 2018 - 02:37 PM

View PostYepyukon, on 23 August 2018 - 12:52 AM, said:

View PostBogeyFore5, on 22 August 2018 - 11:21 PM, said:

To anyone who has seen them in person: How does the black finish look in comparison to the black finish of the RTX3?

I will try and give a report tomorrow. I played the black finish on the RTX-3s and am one of the few that actually loved them. I have the RTX-4s now and am playing my first round with them tomorrow.

Thanks, I look forward to hearing your thoughts. I currently play a set of RTX3s in black, all mid, and like them quite a bit. I really want to replace the 58 with the low bounce/grind though. And then the more I look at photos of the RTX4, the more tempted I am to replace all three of my wedges haha.
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Posted 23 August 2018 - 05:32 PM

RTX-4 review: I have played the RTX-3's since they came out and have loved the playability of them, especially around the greens. I have a 50*, 56* (bent to 55*), and 60* in the black finish all 2 dot/mid bounce. They are shafted with a PX 6.0 steel shaft. My carry distance is 50*-110, 55*-95, 60*-75 on full swings. I am putting the RTX-4's into play with the same lofts, bounce, and finish but with the stock DG TI shaft. I am a digger/driver and can take a beaver pelt of a divot while playing if I am not careful, so the V-Sole and bounce are my friend.

Looks: They are sharp. I love the new look of the 4's and the reduced offset is nice, but nothing that jumps out at you (even when holding them together). The stock shaft of the DG Tour Issue shaft is a nice complement and allowed me to flight my shots when needed. The writing and stamping on the head really blends well together and does not look overly busy. The V-Sole seems to be greatly removed/toned-down on my 50* and 60* but the 55* is roughly the same.

Spin: This is where the 4 is going to outshine the 3 all day long, IMO. I loved the spin I got from the 3. I could stop it where I wanted or back it up, but occasionally I would catch one that just spun like crazy or didn't spin as much as I had hoped. Given, I only have 1 round with the 4's in the bag, that was not an issue today. If I needed it to stop, it did. If I expected it to spin a little more or less, it did. Out of the thick rough, you could feel the ball grab the face and really gave me the confidence that I could still control the distance and spin.

Bunker: This is where I will struggle for a bit I think. I am a decent bunker player but I failed to get up and down twice today from easy-ish spots after taking too much sand. I tend to use my 60* out of most bunkers but might practice a bit with my 55* due to the reduction of the sole. It could have just been a bad day from the bunkers though so I will keep working with that.

Full shot: These felt great from the fairway. The 3's I always felt were a little dead off the face. While that I not neccessarily a bad thing, it didn't give the feedback that I could instantly tell it was struck pure or slightly off center. The 4's are a different animal. Again, it could be the shaft change or the head, or a combination of both, but they felt great and really responsive when struck.

Around the green: I only hit a few shots from around the green as I tend to use my PW or 8i and get the ball on the ground most of the time. I did have one shot today from 50yds that I was able to control the flight and spin really well and a few other shots where I was short sided in fringe/rough. You can really feel the ball come off the face with spin, even on short shots. I really like the V sole on my 50 RTX-3 and wish it was the same on the 4's, but I think I can get used to it. I tend to stray away from using my 60 off any tight lie unless I need to so I didn't have that shot today to compare.

Overall: I think people that did not like the RTX-3 will really like this wedge. Likewise, I think that people that liked the RTX-3's will also like this wedge, but maybe not a full set or at least a different bounce/dot configuration from what they are used to. The spin is amazing and they are really easy to flight. The feel might be the best improvement for me on full shots. I have never been one to play a PW outside of the set make up but these will make me think of getting a 46 to match. I can see these making a pretty big splash on the wedge market.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 09:10 PM

Got home and these beauties were waiting for me.  I went 48 bent to 49 mid, 54 mid, 58 xlow, 62 low.  I've never used a 62* and just wanted to screw around with it.  The 58 xlow is crazy.  That leading edge is SHARP.  I'm pretty sure I'm gonna die trying to play it out of the sand, but I really like how low the leading edge is sitting behind the ball.  My first round with them will be tomorrow, so I hope I short side myself a bunch.  😂

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Srixon 545 - 5-PW - 2* flat - Modus3 120s - Best Grips Classic
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