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Hybrids disappearing? What to use between 3 iron and 3 wood


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#31 tjw018

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 07:28 PM

I actually just took out my hybrid for a 3 iron and go 4 wood 3 iron.

I just tend to have more curvature with hybrids and woods then irons.  Hybrid is obviously more forgiving, but I don't necessarily want more air under my hook swing. With the 3 iron I feel less comfortable with a 200 carry over water but I'll take that shot out of my bag so that I don't have to worry about the big hook with a club that is supposed to be my go to for a narrow tee shot.  Also like the 3 wood a lot more for recovery shots.

I'm sure there is a hybrid that would be more comfortable and not hook for me, but I don't have the time or funds to hunt it down.


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Posted 26 July 2018 - 07:41 PM

View Posttjw018, on 26 July 2018 - 07:28 PM, said:

I actually just took out my hybrid for a 3 iron and go 4 wood 3 iron.

I just tend to have more curvature with hybrids and woods then irons.  Hybrid is obviously more forgiving, but I don't necessarily want more air under my hook swing. With the 3 iron I feel less comfortable with a 200 carry over water but I'll take that shot out of my bag so that I don't have to worry about the big hook with a club that is supposed to be my go to for a narrow tee shot.  Also like the 3 wood a lot more for recovery shots.

I'm sure there is a hybrid that would be more comfortable and not hook for me, but I don't have the time or funds to hunt it down.


That’s understandable and some people tend to hook hybrids for whatever reason. If the hybrid is the only club that is hook prone there’s a good chance it’s just that particular hybrid.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:01 PM

View Postex0dus, on 26 July 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

The anser hybrid is a few years old but has a reputation as anti hook. Pretty sure Kucher is still playing it.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 11:36 PM

There's no right answer here. How big is the gap between your 3w and 3i? How often do you have this shot? Is it even a gap that needs filling? How regularly do you hit a 3 iron anyway? Do you need something for tee shots or long second shots? If it's for use from the tee then maybe get a driving iron (if you like P790 then have a look the UDIs) to fill the "gap" and replace your 3 iron at the same time. If it's for use from the fairway then a hybrid will be better for most players, but a 5w might be even better for your swing. Forget about the distance gap and think about the shot you need the club for instead.
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Posted 27 July 2018 - 07:44 AM

Not sure why so many people have troubles hitting their hybrids left.  I'm a relatively fast swinger (~108) and I play an R-Flex shaft in my hybrid and don't have a problem with snap hooks like I sometimes do with driver.  My natural shot shape is straight or a draw with all of my clubs.

I like my 3h from the tee, fairway, and rough.  I've not hit a driving iron, but my last set had a 3i and I only liked it off the or for punch-outs.

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 07:58 AM

I'm looking to change the 3 wood for a 2 hybrid as the 3 wood is an "iffy" club.  3hybrid is a great club but I do carry a driving iron also.

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 10:09 AM

View Postspring7, on 26 July 2018 - 08:01 PM, said:

View Postex0dus, on 26 July 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

The anser hybrid is a few years old but has a reputation as anti hook. Pretty sure Kucher is still playing it.

not sure if your Signature is up to date, but cheers for playing what works for you.
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Posted 27 July 2018 - 10:15 AM

Golf club design and sales are fairly cyclical. Manufacturers need it to be that way, to divert the buying public's attention to something they don't currently have. In a few years they'll be back and touted as the latest and greatest or updated for the modern golfer and players will wonder what they did without them, much like people are doing with driving irons right now.

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:22 AM

Ping Crossover, OP? Prefer hybrid myself. A lot are going to 5 and 7 woods. ;)
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:33 AM

High lofted fairway woods work best for me.  I don't know why, but they go higher and straighter compared to hybrids and irons.  I tried hybrids, but had inconsistent results and booted them out of the bag, several times.

I think a lot of the hooks from hybrids are from hitting them off the toe. It's amazing how much spin you can get from the gear effect. For some reason that doesn't seem to be a problem with the woods.


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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:35 AM

It’s really about trajectory

High=FW Wood
Medium=hybrid
Lower =driving iron/ crossover
Slightly lower=GI iron
Lowest=players iron

Obviously pros hit the ball hard and generally higher so they have choices based on their game and the driving irons seem to work well for them. For the average guy like me I go 3 wood, Heavenwood then either 9 wood or 4 hybrid. Liking the 4 hybrid for the rough and versatility.
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:41 AM

View Postdlygrisse, on 28 July 2018 - 07:35 AM, said:

It’s really about trajectory

High=FW Wood
Medium=hybrid
Lower =driving iron/ crossover
Slightly lower=GI iron
Lowest=players iron

Obviously pros hit the ball hard and generally higher so they have choices based on their game and the driving irons seem to work well for them. For the average guy like me I go 3 wood, Heavenwood then either 9 wood or 4 hybrid. Liking the 4 hybrid for the rough and versatility.
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:46 AM

I realize “better golfers” was mentioned in the first post, but MOST  golfers do not have the swing speed or consistency of strike needed for a driving iron or even a 3 iron from a set. Very few can elevate them enough to be useful in the bag.

Hybrids are a wonderful club for most golfers. They definitely aren’t “disappearing”. I think most golfers should have both a 3 and 4 hybrid and then go to the 5 iron.

People seem to be forgetting the other big benefit.  Ever try to hit a 3 iron or driving iron out of the rough?  Totally Worthless.
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:59 AM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 28 July 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

I realize “better golfers” was mentioned in the first post, but MOST  golfers do not have the swing speed or consistency of strike needed for a driving iron or even a 3 iron from a set. Very few can elevate them enough to be useful in the bag.

Hybrids are a wonderful club for most golfers. They definitely aren’t “disappearing”. I think most golfers should have both a 3 and 4 hybrid and then go to the 5 iron.

People seem to be forgetting the other big benefit.  Ever try to hit a 3 iron or driving iron out of the rough?  Totally Worthless.

You know I'm not sure what people mean by "Better Golfers".  For me, I think of score.  Better golfers are those who score better.

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 09:24 AM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 28 July 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

I realize “better golfers” was mentioned in the first post, but MOST  golfers do not have the swing speed or consistency of strike needed for a driving iron or even a 3 iron from a set. Very few can elevate them enough to be useful in the bag.

Hybrids are a wonderful club for most golfers. They definitely aren’t “disappearing”. I think most golfers should have both a 3 and 4 hybrid and then go to the 5 iron.

People seem to be forgetting the other big benefit.  Ever try to hit a 3 iron or driving iron out of the rough?  Totally Worthless.

Check out the Tour Edge CBX hybrids. Regional TE rep Jake touts them as left-proof. The CBX series has set loft - nonadjustable. This means you don't have the extra shaft weight of an adjustment lug, which could cause the lighter toe to close down prematurely.

Also, standard hybrids tend to have a bit of offset, which could contribute to left misses. The hybrids with pro or tour heads tend to be more straight-faced.

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 09:56 AM

I think it's peer pressure, there has always been a stigma that those who used hybrids were either old, didn't have the swing speed or were not good enough to swing their long irons.  I'm seeing a lot of bags that don't include hybrids, just woods and long irons.  I'm not pulling the hybrids out of my bag, scores > ego and I can't hit an irons near the distance I hit my 3h.
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 08:46 AM

Hit my PXG 4i like a total idiot this weekend that cost me 2-3 strokes in our club championship easy.

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 10:30 AM

Think "cut" and hybrid will go higher and straighter.

Start with a neutral hybrid.

You can reconfigure PXG weights for a fade bias. You can use lead tape on other hybrids.

I have a PXG 25, and thinking about a 22.

For me, it took finding the right shaft to get it to work - 70g weight and high launching shaft is what works for me.

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 10:38 AM

IMHO a player needs to spend the time to learn how to set up to a hybrid.

Maybe it's not that intuitive, but the ball position that works best with a hybrid is right in the middle of my stance. This is different from either fairway woods or long irons where a slightly forward ball position works better.

When I set up with my 3h or 4h I have to remind myself to treat it like a 9i with a longer shaft. Ball position in the middle, stand a little further from the ball to allow for shaft length, then make a controlled swing.

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 11:20 AM

If I really want to kill my 3hybrid, I open my stance, open the face and hit a straight push that carries a long way.  Only off of fairways, out of rough play it like  an iron.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 09:58 AM

From original post "I don't have swing speed for a two iron though."  I am guessing you are looking for off the tee or 2nd shot on a par 5 or long par 4, but not necessarily to land soft and hold a green. Try the S400 in your hybrid to add some feel of heft in the club for tempo or try a fairway wood, as longer length shaft will assist with the swing speed situation. Good luck in your search.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 10:03 AM

View Postodshot68, on 26 July 2018 - 08:28 AM, said:

I feel like better players are using less and less hybrids. A miss with a three iron just comes off slightly short but close to the target line. A hybrid miss can snap left and in trouble. I donít have swing speed for a two iron though. My 3 iron is a p790 3 iron dgs300. What club to fill the gap?

I used to think this way and carried long irons even though I knew I didnít hit them high enough.  If Iím swinging well a hybrid is much more effective.  If Iím swinging poorly I donít really care, Iím shooting over par or failing to qualify if Iím in a tournament.  May as well take advantage of the rounds where you swing well instead of handicaping myself from 200+ every single round.  I dropped the 4 iron a few weeks ago in favor of 2 hybrids.
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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:33 PM

I'm getting close to making a decision.  I need something high off the deck into the greens.  I am thinking a 818h2 21 degree with a +1" shaft (or 19 with +1/2" shaft) to make it fly longer and higher for off the deck.  Going to stick with Tensei Pro White 90 shaft.
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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:46 PM

View Postodshot68, on 01 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

I'm getting close to making a decision.  I need something high off the deck into the greens.  I am thinking a 818h2 21 degree with a +1" shaft (or 19 with +1/2" shaft) to make it fly longer and higher for off the deck.  Going to stick with Tensei Pro White 90 shaft.

Try the evenflow blue too.  Was much higher flying for me.
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Posted 01 August 2018 - 04:59 PM

View Postswizbeatz, on 01 August 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

View Postodshot68, on 01 August 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

I'm getting close to making a decision.  I need something high off the deck into the greens.  I am thinking a 818h2 21 degree with a +1" shaft (or 19 with +1/2" shaft) to make it fly longer and higher for off the deck.  Going to stick with Tensei Pro White 90 shaft.

Try the evenflow blue too.  Was much higher flying for me.

I did. It reminded me of the di shaft feel wise. Just didnít work for me.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 10:11 AM

i do carry 19º iron AND 18º hybrid in my bag. my hybrid is not for gapping distances but more for where the ball lies. thick rough. fescue. fairway bunker etc. anything else: 19º iron. i usually don't believe the big religion of 'single club for single distance'.
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Posted 02 August 2018 - 11:41 AM

I've gone Driver, 16.5* 4 Wood, 21* 7 wood, 20* hybrid. The wood has more loft, but is longer and has more mass so I get about 15-20 more yards than the 3 hybrid.
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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:24 PM

I would think that a high percentage of tour pros donít use hybrids. They have the ability to make long irons and driving irons work the way they need. Iím assuming that hybrids fly too high for a fair amount of pros.

Iíve got 2 hybrids in my bag, though. A lot of the regular people I play with have hybrids as well. They fly high for me, and I havenít learned how to command the low shot on a consistent basis yet. Iíve used a driving iron in the past that was similar distance and a little lower flight. I go with the hybrids because I donít feel like I can screw up the shot.

Seems like a lot of people get turned off by the appearance of some hybrids, too.

Edited by Hester65, 02 August 2018 - 12:26 PM.

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 01:17 PM

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 01:13 PM

View PostHester65, on 02 August 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

I would think that a high percentage of tour pros don't use hybrids. They have the ability to make long irons and driving irons work the way they need. I'm assuming that hybrids fly too high for a fair amount of pros.



A lot of pros play a 5w,including JT and Rory, even though they go higher than hybrids. I think many pros are just concerned about the ball going left.

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