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Posted 24 July 2018 - 08:01 AM

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 11:54 AM

fortnite, all night

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 02:10 PM

If you can't beat 'em, get a coach/tutor

https://www.wsj.com/...dren-1533046708

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 02:53 PM

View PostCTgolf, on 31 July 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

If you can't beat 'em, get a coach/tutor

https://www.wsj.com/...dren-1533046708

Time to invest in PepsiCo, the makers of Mountain Dew and Dorritos.

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 03:09 PM

View PostCTgolf, on 31 July 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

If you can't beat 'em, get a coach/tutor

https://www.wsj.com/...dren-1533046708

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Maybe they should read "Don't Should on Your Kids".


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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:16 AM

I did a little experiment, as Iím amazed at how little focus my son usually has, in practice.   He is a very good player and I know can be much better, mainly with adherence to a slower process...assessment, aim, preshot routine (I timed him from afar and his routine was only 10-15 seconds😳😝).

We do not allow Fortnite and he doesnít have a phone, nor does he need one, as we drop off/pick up from school.    Heís going into 6th grade and been begging to play and says everyone plays and itísnot normal, not to🤔. Yada yada...

In passing before practice,  I ask him what he thinks he can shoot on the 18 hole course if he focuses?   He says +5-6 ( heís shot even, once).   I tell him maybe with more focus, he can shoot +3?  He replies,  thatís so hard with the wind!   So,  I mention maybe Iíll try out Fortnite on my phone, just to see if it is okay for him to play.  🤣.    He throws out, hey Pops if I shoot +3, can I play Fortnite?   Hmmm, now, he magically can focus😂?

Anyway, he goes out and puts up +2,  which confirmed my belief that he was lacking focus.   He tells me he was extremely focused and it was more stressful than his two-day, state tournaments (because he was trying to go low to maybe get opportunity to play Fortnite),   Just as I thought🤑

I limited him to 30 minutes.  Need my carrot. Fortnite👍🤣

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:12 PM

You just got hustled! At least it wasnít a puppy.

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:19 PM

View PostBertGA, on 05 August 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

You just got hustled! At least it wasnít a puppy.

Yep😝.  But,  my carrot arm just got longer...

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 04:42 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 27 August 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

Would never intentionally click on a link from CNN.

These were grown men.  Associating a crazy person with all gamers is unrealistic.  If that is the case golf isn't a good activity either.
https://www.mysanant...ts-10644597.php

At northern trust they had a fortnite tent with 20 x boxes right next to the first tee tent.  Went to see tiger and spent an hour in that dumb tent.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 10:37 AM

The naysayers have been crying fowl about games ever since the NES came out in the 80's. I think they were saying Contra and other shooting games would lead to violence.

In Fortnite you don't even kill people. Their is no blood or gore, and sometimes the weapons shoot pumpkins or are fireworks. You just get hurt and then a robot teleports you back to the lobby. No death, no blood, and it's all cartoony with dancing and funny costumes. The social aspect is a blast, being goofy in the game (golf balls/ beach balls/ throwing people off cliffs, etc.) and playground is a lot of fun. I don't think I have laughed as hard in a long time as I do in playground with my kids friends. It really let's kids have a personality and teaches communication. I have zero issues with it. While I don't agree with letting little kids play it too much or at all, it is targeted for 10+ by the way, you just have to be a parent and be involved with your kids. You can't just blame a game for their issues.

Parents spend hours on their phones and also let 3-5 yo use their iphones with "learning" apps. Those two things are far more damaging than letting a 10+ kid play Fortnite.
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Posted 28 August 2018 - 11:01 AM

View PostBelmont148, on 28 August 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

The naysayers have been crying fowl about games ever since the NES came out in the 80's. I think they were saying Contra and other shooting games would lead to violence.

In Fortnite you don't even kill people. Their is no blood or gore, and sometimes the weapons shoot pumpkins or are fireworks. You just get hurt and then a robot teleports you back to the lobby. No death, no blood, and it's all cartoony with dancing and funny costumes. The social aspect is a blast, being goofy in the game (golf balls/ beach balls/ throwing people off cliffs, etc.) and playground is a lot of fun. I don't think I have laughed as hard in a long time as I do in playground with my kids friends. It really let's kids have a personality and teaches communication. I have zero issues with it. While I don't agree with letting little kids play it too much or at all, it is targeted for 10+ by the way, you just have to be a parent and be involved with your kids. You can't just blame a game for their issues.

Parents spend hours on their phones and also let 3-5 yo use their iphones with "learning" apps. Those two things are far more damaging than letting a 10+ kid play Fortnite.

Fortnite is a great bribe for kids.  My kids grade in Geometry dropped to a B.  He no longer gets to play during the week until he gets it to an A.  Drops below a B in any class and he gets it taken away until the grades come back up.  Taking that stupid game away is more important than taking a belt or being grounded in his room.

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 11:51 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 28 August 2018 - 11:01 AM, said:

View PostBelmont148, on 28 August 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

The naysayers have been crying fowl about games ever since the NES came out in the 80's. I think they were saying Contra and other shooting games would lead to violence.

In Fortnite you don't even kill people. Their is no blood or gore, and sometimes the weapons shoot pumpkins or are fireworks. You just get hurt and then a robot teleports you back to the lobby. No death, no blood, and it's all cartoony with dancing and funny costumes. The social aspect is a blast, being goofy in the game (golf balls/ beach balls/ throwing people off cliffs, etc.) and playground is a lot of fun. I don't think I have laughed as hard in a long time as I do in playground with my kids friends. It really let's kids have a personality and teaches communication. I have zero issues with it. While I don't agree with letting little kids play it too much or at all, it is targeted for 10+ by the way, you just have to be a parent and be involved with your kids. You can't just blame a game for their issues.

Parents spend hours on their phones and also let 3-5 yo use their iphones with "learning" apps. Those two things are far more damaging than letting a 10+ kid play Fortnite.

Fortnite is a great bribe for kids.  My kids grade in Geometry dropped to a B.  He no longer gets to play during the week until he gets it to an A.  Drops below a B in any class and he gets it taken away until the grades come back up.  Taking that stupid game away is more important than taking a belt or being grounded in his room.
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 09:57 AM

View PostTigerMom, on 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

not a good activity for kids

https://www.usatoday...udy/1486188002/

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 11:05 AM

View PostTigerMom, on 02 October 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

not a good activity for kids

https://www.usatoday...udy/1486188002/

Everyone here in the junior section is so concerned with making sure their kids aren't growing up too fast and that golf is kept 'fun' but then they'll let their nine year old play a game unsupervised that's rated TEEN (for Violence) by the ESRB.  If you're cool with people building weapons caches and shooting down from others from up above why not just let them watch the cell phone videos from the Vegas shooting from the Mandalay Bay?


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 11:54 AM

View Postleezer99, on 02 October 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 02 October 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

not a good activity for kids

https://www.usatoday...udy/1486188002/

Everyone here in the junior section is so concerned with making sure their kids aren't growing up too fast and that golf is kept 'fun' but then they'll let their nine year old play a game unsupervised that's rated TEEN (for Violence) by the ESRB.  If you're cool with people building weapons caches and shooting down from others from up above why not just let them watch the cell phone videos from the Vegas shooting from the Mandalay Bay?

Cmon now, we both know that this is an EXTREME comparison..

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:04 PM

This kid I knew growing up wasn't allowed to play videogames or eat candy. When he got older he would arrange to stay overnight at his friend's houses.  He would pull all nighters eating candy and playing videogames like he was on a coke bender or something.   Always made me laugh, and always something I remember when parents want to be heavy handed about not doing what their peers are doing.  I'm not sure what the point I'm trying to make, but often being too strict back fires.  I think that guiding people in the right direction with nuance is the best way to get them on the right path.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:54 PM

View Postgolfer929, on 02 October 2018 - 11:54 AM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 02 October 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 02 October 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

not a good activity for kids

https://www.usatoday...udy/1486188002/

Everyone here in the junior section is so concerned with making sure their kids aren't growing up too fast and that golf is kept 'fun' but then they'll let their nine year old play a game unsupervised that's rated TEEN (for Violence) by the ESRB.  If you're cool with people building weapons caches and shooting down from others from up above why not just let them watch the cell phone videos from the Vegas shooting from the Mandalay Bay?

Cmon now, we both know that this is an EXTREME comparison..

Of course it is to you as an adult.  But to a child without a fully developed brain...

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 01:10 PM

View PostTigerMom, on 02 October 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

not a good activity for kids

https://www.usatoday...udy/1486188002/

It's a meta-analysis. This article proves...nothing. It does show a link to an association in behavior, but it does not prove video games are causative. As the article points out, it is just as likely that kids who are prone to violence...ahem...seek out violent video games.


5]The new research echoes Hull's previous finding that playing violent games equates to about twice the risk of being sent to the principal’s office for fighting during an eight-month period, he said. A separate 2014 study he oversaw of violent video games in 2,000 families is one of the 24 included in the meta-analysis.

5]The effect is "relatively small, but statistically reliable. The effect does exist," Hull said.

5]While there's not research suggesting violent video games lead to criminal behavior, Hull's previous research suggests players may practice riskier behaviors such as reckless driving, binge drinking, smoking and unsafe sex.

5]"A lot of people ask, do these games really cause these kids to behave aggressively? I would say that is one possibility," he said. "The other possibility is that it's a really bad sign. If your kids are playing these games, either these games are having a warping effect on right and wrong or they have a warped sense of right or wrong and that’s why they are attracted to these games. Either way you should be concerned about it."



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:42 PM

View PostTigerMom, on 02 October 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 27 August 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Video games: not a good activity for kids

https://www.cnn.com/...ting/index.html

not a good activity for kids

https://www.usatoday...udy/1486188002/

Well, I'm glad I only let my kid play Fortnite and not any of these violent games.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 10:00 AM

Season 6 is awesome

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 03:03 PM

Fortnite is more Wile Coyote than Platoon. Any parent that doesnít see that is either blind, a sheep listening to talking heads, or just flat out hasnít looked into the game at all.
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Posted 03 October 2018 - 03:58 PM

View PostBelmont148, on 03 October 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

Fortnite is more Wile Coyote than Platoon. Any parent that doesn't see that is either blind, a sheep listening to talking heads, or just flat out hasn't looked into the game at all.

That's cool, keep playing video games.  No sweat off my back.

You either invest time or spend time.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:14 PM

View PostBelmont148, on 03 October 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

Fortnite is more Wile Coyote than Platoon. Any parent that doesn't see that is either blind, a sheep listening to talking heads, or just flat out hasn't looked into the game at all.

Agreed. Fortnite is super fun and not as violent as people that have never played the game think.

There's no gore, blood. You can win a game without even firing a bullet, technically. In the game modes they introduce, like The Getaway, it was completely possible to win by just being patient.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 06:09 PM

View Postpropredicr, on 05 August 2018 - 11:16 AM, said:

I did a little experiment, as Iím amazed at how little focus my son usually has, in practice.   He is a very good player and I know can be much better, mainly with adherence to a slower process...assessment, aim, preshot routine (I timed him from afar and his routine was only 10-15 seconds😳😝).

We do not allow Fortnite and he doesnít have a phone, nor does he need one, as we drop off/pick up from school.    Heís going into 6th grade and been begging to play and says everyone plays and itísnot normal, not to🤔. Yada yada...

In passing before practice,  I ask him what he thinks he can shoot on the 18 hole course if he focuses?   He says +5-6 ( heís shot even, once).   I tell him maybe with more focus, he can shoot +3?  He replies,  thatís so hard with the wind!   So,  I mention maybe Iíll try out Fortnite on my phone, just to see if it is okay for him to play.  🤣.    He throws out, hey Pops if I shoot +3, can I play Fortnite?   Hmmm, now, he magically can focus😂?

Anyway, he goes out and puts up +2,  which confirmed my belief that he was lacking focus.   He tells me he was extremely focused and it was more stressful than his two-day, state tournaments (because he was trying to go low to maybe get opportunity to play Fortnite),   Just as I thought🤑

I limited him to 30 minutes.  Need my carrot. Fortnite👍🤣

UPDATE:

My 11 yo is learning how to earn his playing time 😝

GHIN was 11.3, prior to allowing him to play Fortnite in early August.

Current GHIN, including personal best rounds in tourneys from 6000-6700 yds=8.1.

The decline in HC;  could be coincidental, but, I believe Fortnite positively influenced the outcome.

For now, Fortnite works and teaches him that he has to earn the right to play.  If heís not playing particularly well, I reserve the right to allocate time, based on his effort, focus, discipline, perserverance.   I throw him a bone, here and there,  and he strenghtens his mental game.  Like the other day he started off fine and had a couple bogeys back-to-back, but, he grinded and ended with four pars and a birdie.   Score wasnít special, but, A for effort.  Win-Win


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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:07 PM

We could cherry pick studies about many different topics.  

Here is a 'study' entitled, "Dark side of being a 'Tiger Mom': Perfectionist parenting style may be detrimental to your child, study says".
https://nationalpost...hild-study-says

Another study entitled, “Is Plastic Food Packaging Dangerous”.
https://www.theguard...aging-dangerous

And yet another study entitled, “Is Too Much Homework Bad for Kids Health”
https://www.healthli...stress-031114#1

Could find studies that present alternative viewpoints as well.

Somewhere, right now, someone is studying something.  

A little 'common sense' can go a long way, unfortunately common sense does not appear to be that common.
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