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Ditching the 3 wood completely?


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#1 -GoldenHawk-

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:58 AM

I'm finding with the 917D2 9.5 and 818 H2 19 I'm demoing currently (going to buy) that I don't really need the 3 wood. But that is just weird to me as a golfer. Going 9.5 to 19 and then to my AP2 712 4 iron just sounds crazy, but I hit the hybrid 240-250 and sometimes farther. Driver goes 280-290 and I play to yardages a lot. I hit the hybrid off tees if I want to be conservative and play to a club for the approach. If I'm not doing that, I'm super comfortable with driver. Also, I'm almost never hitting 3 woods into par 5s, and would rather play shorter to have more club into the green and not a 40 or 50 yard shot.

Anybody else had this issue? A 19* hybrid shouldn't go that far, but hey, if it does, so be it. My spin numbers are good and it goes straighter than any hybrid I've hit with the X Tensei White shaft in it.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:01 AM

Same setup and never pull the 3W. Mine is just for looks in my bag.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

You're hitting your hybrid the distance a lot of people get out of their 3-wood, plus you feel more confident in it.

No good reason to have a 3-wood unless it really bothers you to have that slot open.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:13 AM

View PostBomber_11, on 12 July 2018 - 09:07 AM, said:

You're hitting your hybrid the distance a lot of people get out of their 3-wood, plus you feel more confident in it.

No good reason to have a 3-wood unless it really bothers you to have that slot open.

Very true. It's just after digging deep and getting the numbers and seeing the on-course performance in front of me.. It's shocking because I never thought I would consider not bagging a 3 wood. But that looks to be a good route right now.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:19 AM

There is a cure for this issue.  It's called aging.  Unfortunately it's a slow painful process.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:27 AM

So you can hit the ball 280 but you're ok with the next club only going 240?  You're leaving a valuable yards on the table and a deadly weapon if you can hit your 3W/4W well.

My driver is right at 290 carry, but the 3HL can chase it within 15-20 yards off the tee.  Being easy to hit off the deck, 260+ is actually a distance I can achieve on long Par 5's off the deck.  

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:34 AM

I did the exact same thing many years ago. 3w had almost no use as the driver was always more reliable off the tee (big believer in big face forgiveness) and my 19* hybrid is generally long enough for my longest shots hit from the fairway. Certainly more controllable than the 3w. The odds of me actually sticking a green with 3w are low, as left/right misses at that distance often put you in a bunker or worse. I'm OK with sand shots, but would generally prefer being short of the green on the fairway with some sort of wedge in my hand.

This does mean I don't stick too many par-5s in 2 shots. The upside is that I happen to like intermediate range (20-60yd) shots with a wedge in my hand. So, while I have relatively little chance for eagles, I get a fair number of my birdies through pitch/putt combos on par-5s. Driver, hybrid, mid-range pitch, 1-putt - basically turning par-5s into really short par-3s.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:38 AM

I'll probably do the same because I don't play a course that I'd go for a green if I'm 250+ out. My 3 wood off the tee is about 250-260 but I can hit my 19* 230-240.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:46 AM

I made a thread about this exact same dilemma yesterday. I feel your pain. I'm putting a 16 degree hybrid in the bag.

http://www.golfwrx.c...degree-hybrids/

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:49 AM

View PostMukky, on 12 July 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

I made a thread about this exact same dilemma yesterday. I feel your pain. I'm putting a 16 degree hybrid in the bag.

http://www.golfwrx.c...degree-hybrids/

I considered the 17 degree, but that'd just create to big of a gap between my H and 4-iron.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:55 AM

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:59 AM

View Post-GoldenHawk-, on 12 July 2018 - 09:49 AM, said:

View PostMukky, on 12 July 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

I made a thread about this exact same dilemma yesterday. I feel your pain. I'm putting a 16 degree hybrid in the bag.

http://www.golfwrx.c...degree-hybrids/

I considered the 17 degree, but that'd just create to big of a gap between my H and 4-iron.
What about keeping the 19, add a 16 or 17 h and drop the 3w (unless want to add a wedge)?
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:15 AM

I don't have the length of the OP either, but my reasoning for ditching the 3w remains.

As an example, take even a fairly short-ish 510yd par-5 that is not too uncommon around my parts. A 265yd drive leaves me 245 out. I could poke a 3w out that distance, but my control there isn't great and as I said, I could easily end up in a bunker or worse. Seems courses around me have fairly harsh consequences for missing greens left/right/long, but short is generally not too bad. My 19 deg hybrid will go 215-225, and leave me a short of the green, but generally "safe".

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:15 AM

View PostSkiSchoolPro, on 12 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

View Post-GoldenHawk-, on 12 July 2018 - 09:49 AM, said:

View PostMukky, on 12 July 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

I made a thread about this exact same dilemma yesterday. I feel your pain. I'm putting a 16 degree hybrid in the bag.

http://www.golfwrx.c...degree-hybrids/

I considered the 17 degree, but that'd just create to big of a gap between my H and 4-iron.
What about keeping the 19, add a 16 or 17 h and drop the 3w (unless want to add a wedge)?

I agree with SkiSchoolPro and would consider adding a 16* or 17* hybrid as an alternative to the 3W, especially if you can hit the hybrid better then a 3W.  I wish I had this "issue" ha.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:22 AM

View Post-GoldenHawk-, on 12 July 2018 - 09:49 AM, said:

View PostMukky, on 12 July 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

I made a thread about this exact same dilemma yesterday. I feel your pain. I'm putting a 16 degree hybrid in the bag.

http://www.golfwrx.c...degree-hybrids/

I considered the 17 degree, but that'd just create to big of a gap between my H and 4-iron.

No you would keep your other hybrid and just swap your 3 wood for the 17. Carry 2 hybrids instead of a 3 wood and hybrid. You won't completely cover the gap between driver and 19 degree hybrid but you'll definitely help it out

Edit: I'm kind of confused by your set up. Are you carrying 4 wedges on top of your pw? If not, you should have an open spot in the bag

Edited by Mukky, 12 July 2018 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:27 AM

View PostMukky, on 12 July 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

View Post-GoldenHawk-, on 12 July 2018 - 09:49 AM, said:

View PostMukky, on 12 July 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

I made a thread about this exact same dilemma yesterday. I feel your pain. I'm putting a 16 degree hybrid in the bag.

http://www.golfwrx.c...degree-hybrids/

I considered the 17 degree, but that'd just create to big of a gap between my H and 4-iron.

No you would keep your other hybrid and just swap your 3 wood for the 17. Carry 2 hybrids instead of a 3 wood and hybrid. You won't completely cover the gap between driver and 19 degree hybrid but you'll definitely help it out

Edit: I'm kind of confused by your set up. Are you carrying 4 wedges on top of your pw? If not, you should have an open spot in the bag

3 wedges.. yes I would have an open spot

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:32 AM

I have a similar setup, but with my driver around 285 and my hybrid around 225... thus my 3w fills the gap perfectly as a 250 club.

If I could hit my hybrid to within 30yd of my driver, not a chance would I bag a 3w.

With your stated gaps, you should be adding a 3i between the 4 and hybrid, as I assume there's probably a gap there to be filled.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:38 AM

Have a UDI 1 iron en route. Plan to build it with a high launch shaft and hoping to get 240/245 from the deck and 250 from the tee. If I can do that with a 41" iron my 3 wood is gone.

Just replaced my 5 wood with a UDI 2 iron (225-230), so there is hope! I think the focus should be what club reliably gives you the yardage gaps after your driver to make a bag.. Not what is "normal" or thought to be normal.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:42 AM

View Posthuddledtoast, on 12 July 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

I have a similar setup, but with my driver around 285 and my hybrid around 225... thus my 3w fills the gap perfectly as a 250 club.

If I could hit my hybrid to within 30yd of my driver, not a chance would I bag a 3w.

With your stated gaps, you should be adding a 3i between the 4 and hybrid, as I assume there's probably a gap there to be filled.

A bit, yes, 4i goes 220 ish give or take a few. Average with the H2 19* on the monitor was 248 I think.
Perhaps I could just bag a 19* and a 21*

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:42 AM

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:07 AM

I also go driver, 19* hybrid.  However I only hit the 19* about 200 yds or so.  I just haven't found a 3 wood that I can hit reliably off the deck and I find it gets me in trouble way more than it saves me shots.  I should search for a fix though, because I very rarely reach par 5's in two, and typically play them to leave me my favorite distance (100 yds) for my 3rd.  I guess that's smart golf, but damn is it boring.

I do love my 19* for par 4's where driver is too much club, or it's too tight of a hole and 19* will still leave me with a reasonable approach shot.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:10 AM

good problem to have. Personally, if you arent up to 14 clubs in the bag, the more weapons the better.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:36 AM

I played many years going with a driver and then hybrid.  Always had trouble hitting a 3 wood straight and used a 16 degree hybrid.  Could hit it 10 times straighter and if I swung hard at it, it would go the same distance as a stock 3 wood, so it was a no-brainer for me.  Also a lot of it will come into where you play and shots you typically have.  For instance right now if I'm playing somewhere I need a 255-260 club a lot, I put in my 818H2, but if I'm needing a 245 shot then its my UDI.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:48 AM

View Post-GoldenHawk-, on 12 July 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

Also, I'm almost never hitting 3 woods into par 5s

I mean, other than probably being the smarter course management style, is there any specific reason you don't?

I find myself hitting 3 wood for my 2nd shot on every par 5 I play. Regardless if I can reach or not. #nolayingup

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 12:06 PM

View PostjacobEDGE, on 12 July 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

View Post-GoldenHawk-, on 12 July 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

Also, I'm almost never hitting 3 woods into par 5s

I mean, other than probably being the smarter course management style, is there any specific reason you don't?

I find myself hitting 3 wood for my 2nd shot on every par 5 I play. Regardless if I can reach or not. #nolayingup

I never need to go after a green that's 260-270 yards away/never choose to because there's too much trouble if I were to miss.

Since there's only a 10-20 yard difference between 3W and H2, there's really no need.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 12:49 PM

My 3wood is rarely hit and it competes for a spot with my 17* hybrid. Both clubs are pretty much used for when accuracy isn’t super important and I just need to bang a ball down course.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 12:51 PM

My 3-wood is 13.5º. I use it for short par 4's or tight driving holes. If I have to hit a wood off the turf, I use my 17º.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 01:06 PM

I am blessed enough to have the distance in the bag where a 3w isn't really needed. Accuracy between a 3w and a driver is a wash, so I removed the 3w from the bag. I go driver, UDI 2 iron, 3iron. Cleared some space to add the 64 degree hi-toe for those 80-100 shots and play with around the green. Still a work in progress but I dont' think I'll ever put the 3w back unless the 2 iron loses accuracy or distance soon.

TL;DR - if you have the distance, it's feasible to take out the 3w

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:30 PM

Yeah having a club to hit 260ish off the deck is worth it even if it's only once in a blue moon. Unless you want to be one of "those" guys and be hitting your driver off the deck lol

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:18 PM

It seems terribly odd that there's only 40-50 yards between your driver and your hybrid. That "should" be the gap between your driver and 3w and not the gap between driver and 5w/3h, so it seems something's up with that.


Anyways, until recently I hadn't carried a 3-wood in decades.
I found it to be my least accurate club from the fairway, and just proved detrimental to my scorecard, and as a result I either had in it's place a 4-wood or strong-lofted 5-wood.
But I started playing a course in which accuracy off the tee was at a premium, as there was OB or dense ball-eating brush on nearly every hole, so I added a 3-wood to hit instead of driver being as the course is fairly long.


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