Jump to content

Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at GolfWRX such as viewing all the images, interacting with members, access to all forums and eligiblility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

- - - - -

TifEagle Bermuda Greens Question


  • Please log in to reply
8 replies to this topic

#1 ThinkingPlus

ThinkingPlus

    Major Winner

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 1,054 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 449758
  • Joined: 12/24/2016
  • Location:South Texas
  • Handicap:+0.9
GolfWRX Likes : 1072

Posted 09 July 2018 - 09:13 PM

We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks.  I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.

On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass.  No lasting depression at all.  In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all.  Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.

Driver: Callaway GBB Epic 9° w/Project X HZRDUS T800 65 gm 6.0 flex
3W: Callaway Rogue w/Project X Evenflow 5.5 Graphite R-flex
Hybrids: Callaway Apex 3h, 4h w/MR Kuro Kage 80HY S-flex
Irons: Maltby DBM 5i w/TT XP95 R-flex, Callaway Apex 6i - AW w/UST Recoil 680 F4
Sand Wedge: Mizuno S5 54/08 w/True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex
Lob Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM5 58/07 w/True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura X w/Super Stroke Mid Slim 2.0
Ball: Titleist AVX in yellow

Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


1

#2 GTgolf

GTgolf

    Advanced

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 437 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 296579
  • Joined: 02/12/2014
  • Location:Cumming, Ga
  • Handicap:0
GolfWRX Likes : 134

Posted 10 July 2018 - 05:33 AM

View PostThinkingPlus, on 09 July 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks.  I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.

On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass.  No lasting depression at all.  In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all.  Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.

Yes itís normal. They play fast and firm.

2

#3 ThinkingPlus

ThinkingPlus

    Major Winner

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 1,054 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 449758
  • Joined: 12/24/2016
  • Location:South Texas
  • Handicap:+0.9
GolfWRX Likes : 1072

Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:34 AM

View PostGTgolf, on 10 July 2018 - 05:33 AM, said:

View PostThinkingPlus, on 09 July 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks.  I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.

On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass.  No lasting depression at all.  In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all.  Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.

Yes it's normal. They play fast and firm.
Thanks for the reply. I was concerned that there was something special about TifEagle that made shots stop on the green better even though there wasn't a ball mark and they appeared really firm.
Driver: Callaway GBB Epic 9° w/Project X HZRDUS T800 65 gm 6.0 flex
3W: Callaway Rogue w/Project X Evenflow 5.5 Graphite R-flex
Hybrids: Callaway Apex 3h, 4h w/MR Kuro Kage 80HY S-flex
Irons: Maltby DBM 5i w/TT XP95 R-flex, Callaway Apex 6i - AW w/UST Recoil 680 F4
Sand Wedge: Mizuno S5 54/08 w/True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex
Lob Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM5 58/07 w/True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura X w/Super Stroke Mid Slim 2.0
Ball: Titleist AVX in yellow

3

#4 whynotgolf

whynotgolf

    Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 41 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 503864
  • Joined: 06/05/2018
  • Location:GA
  • Handicap:12
GolfWRX Likes : 12

Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:48 AM

View PostThinkingPlus, on 09 July 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks.  I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.

On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass.  No lasting depression at all.  In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all.  Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.

Very normal...our home course converted to Champions Bermuda or a similar strand, and anything short of a moon ball will not leave a pitch mark....once they are seasoned, they will hold just fine though....not as smooth as bent, but faster and easier to maintain in the south....I like them.

4

#5 ThinkingPlus

ThinkingPlus

    Major Winner

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 1,054 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 449758
  • Joined: 12/24/2016
  • Location:South Texas
  • Handicap:+0.9
GolfWRX Likes : 1072

Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:51 AM

View Postwhynotgolf, on 10 July 2018 - 07:48 AM, said:

View PostThinkingPlus, on 09 July 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

We just joined a club this year that has TifEagle bermuda greens. They putt very nice and are pretty fast. What is odd and outside my experience are the ball marks.  I am used to poa or bent greens where the ball leaves a depression when the greens are receptive. Hence the need to repair the mark bringing the depression back to level.

On these TifEagle greens the ball marks are barely dicernable smudges of disturbed grass.  No lasting depression at all.  In fact many times it is impossible to find a mark at all.  Is this normal? No real trouble stopping the ball though.

Very normal...our home course converted to Champions Bermuda or a similar strand, and anything short of a moon ball will not leave a pitch mark....once they are seasoned, they will hold just fine though....not as smooth as bent, but faster and easier to maintain in the south....I like them.
OK.  That fits with what I am seeing.  Thanks.

Driver: Callaway GBB Epic 9° w/Project X HZRDUS T800 65 gm 6.0 flex
3W: Callaway Rogue w/Project X Evenflow 5.5 Graphite R-flex
Hybrids: Callaway Apex 3h, 4h w/MR Kuro Kage 80HY S-flex
Irons: Maltby DBM 5i w/TT XP95 R-flex, Callaway Apex 6i - AW w/UST Recoil 680 F4
Sand Wedge: Mizuno S5 54/08 w/True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex
Lob Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM5 58/07 w/True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura X w/Super Stroke Mid Slim 2.0
Ball: Titleist AVX in yellow

5

#6 RichieHunt

RichieHunt

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,248 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 209355
  • Joined: 10/30/2012
  • Location:Cocoa Beach, FL
GolfWRX Likes : 2625

Posted 10 July 2018 - 12:23 PM

Yes, it's very normal.  TifEagle is my preferred bermuda greens grass of choice.

They are very durable and handle traffic well.

The only issue is that I wouldn't recommend getting the stimp over 11 (or really 10.5 for that matter) unless you have a really skilled greenkeeper with a lot of resources at their disposal.








RH

6

#7 SilverBullets

SilverBullets

    BMW

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,864 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 139485
  • Joined: 09/19/2011
  • Location:Phoenix, Az
  • Handicap:4
GolfWRX Likes : 2519

Posted 10 July 2018 - 05:47 PM

Yup as others have said, perfectly normal.  I played Harbour Town last week and they have converted to the TifEagle greens and that's basically how they played.  TifEagle greens are great.
Taylormade '17 M2 9.5* - Rogue Silver 70 X
Taylormade '16 M2 15*
Titleist 816h 21*
Callaway Apex 4i thru PW - Nippon Modus 125 Tour X
Vokey SM6 50*, 54*, 58*
Scotty Cameron Circa 62 No. 2 - Scotty Custom Shop

7

#8 ArtMBgolf

ArtMBgolf

    Advanced

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 255 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 476646
  • Joined: 07/27/2017
  • Location:Delaware
  • Handicap:8
GolfWRX Likes : 89

Posted 13 July 2018 - 10:13 PM

All of the hybrid bermuda greens play like that.  Some courses will be softer than others, depending on soil and how much they water.

The root system is stronger than bent.    It's still good to find and fix those little ball mark dents.  
  
You generally need a spin ball, to take the big hop and stop.  
  
It seems to me that courses that roll + sand the hybrid greens can get them putting as true/fast as bent, at least the more average bent,
not Augusta.  

I also feel that the hybrid greens don't break as much as bent greens.   The sidehill putts on hybrid don't fall sideways as much as bent
when they slow up at the hole.

8

#9 defnotapro

defnotapro

    Advanced

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 342 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 413146
  • Joined: 02/22/2016
  • Location:TX
  • Handicap:12
  • Ebay ID:jdpelz
GolfWRX Likes : 79

Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:30 PM

My home course has the TifEagle greens and like everyone else has said it is normal.

Been playing some out of state courses with bent and other greens and have been leaving some huge divots and thinking geez I don't ever make divots at home like these.

9



0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

GolfWRX Sponsors