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New Project X Hzrdus smoke shaft - 2018


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#61 mister2cool

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:40 AM

 Go_Time, on 12 July 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Smoke will have similar profile and feel to the Black, but with different materials and lower spin. Oct/Nov retail timeline.

You are right on! It is 2nd gen Black and release time frame isn't until late Oct.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 01:47 PM

I heard there is a Mid Launch version T1100 as well on tour???
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 02:36 PM

 webber, on 13 July 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

I heard there is a Mid Launch version T1100 as well on tour???

Isn't that the T800? :taunt: :taunt:
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 07:43 PM

 Go_Time, on 09 July 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

OK i'll volunteer to test it and provide detailed review. Callaway tip, 6.5, 75g please :)
I swing between 114mph-117mph consistently (with the occasional 118-119mph when I try to hit it hard) on trackman so naturally it was suggested that I get a 6.5 flex in a 76 gram HZRDUS Yellow...
It was too stiff which is a problem that I have never had unless I got carried away and over tipped a X-Flex trying to make it stiffer! Anyway... Instead of getting another 76 gram with a 6.0 flex I went with the 63 gram 6.5 flex and I am ABSOLUTELY BOMBING IT! I never tried anything under 70 before but After getting used to less weight Iím touching 330 for the 1st time since college. 330 yards is a number that I believed was in my past! I was hitting the 76 gram 305-310 Max! I donít know if I got a 6.5 in the 76 gram that had been tipped but it was much stiffer than the 63 gram 6.5 flex! I donít think I can go back to a 76 gramer after seeing such a consistent increase in distance!
Iím using this new to me Hzrdus shaft in a Ping G400 LST 8.5 degree driver (turned down -.6 degrees).  My previous shaft was an untipped Tour AD GP 7-X. I have played it for the last 3 years in 2 different drivers. I almost want to try a lighter version of it because I loved the control and ball flight I was getting out of it! Iím hitting the Hzrdus 63 gram 6.5 flex  on average 15 yards further! Occasionally 30 yards which is unbelievable to me because I have never had this much improvement resulting from an equipment upgrade!
Is the Hzrdus just a better shaft than the tour ad? The price says itís not thatís why Iím asking... I paid like $370 for my tour ad 3 years ago when they were going for damn near $500! I got a new hand crafted Hzrdus for $209 which I was told is a good deal.

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 03:28 PM

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

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Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm ;)

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 03:32 PM

 Go_Time, on 16 July 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

DB

Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm ;)

I have.

It's real and it's spectacular.
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Posted 16 July 2018 - 03:35 PM

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

 Go_Time, on 16 July 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

DB

Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm ;)

I have.

It's real and it's spectacular.

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 03:35 PM

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

 Go_Time, on 16 July 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

DB

Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm ;)

I have.

It's real and it's spectacular.

She's flaunting societies conventions!!!!!
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Posted 16 July 2018 - 08:21 PM

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

 Go_Time, on 16 July 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

DB

Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm ;)

I have.

It's real and it's spectacular.

I have too and spectacular is definitely a good word to describe it. Feel is great for being ďhzrdusĒ profile/design.


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:06 PM

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

DB

Damn.  I guess I'm going to have to try a 65 6.5.  Do you have a time table for release?
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Posted 16 July 2018 - 11:38 PM

 Go_Time, on 16 July 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

 TrueTemper, on 16 July 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

HZRDUS Smoke Black is the next generation of HZRDUS Black.  As someone stated the original HZRDUS Black was very tip heavy, standard weight heads at 45"+ would swing weight in the high Ds.

With Smoke Black we have made the shaft neutral balanced, getting about 1.5-2 SW points out of the shaft.

Also in the softer flexes we backed off the stiffness and torque a little as the Original Blacks in 5.5 and 6.0 were way to stiff for that target market.

DB

Someone around here should probably hit one to confirm ;)

Someone will! LOL
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:59 AM

i would love to hit this thing -- it'd be more up my alley than the Evenflow.

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 09:15 PM

Hey ProjectX, when youíre looking for testers Iíd love to compare it to the HC black in my driver and driving iron 😬

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 09:28 PM

 jacobEDGE, on 09 July 2018 - 03:53 PM, said:

 Rpete33, on 09 July 2018 - 03:38 PM, said:

 mister2cool, on 09 July 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

 Rpete33, on 09 July 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Interesting, would be nice if they would release 80-85g options on their shafts

I honestly don't understand why this question gets asked every time..

Sorry love their products just need a heavier option

Do you want it for a hybrid or driving iron? Or do you play your drivers super short so you need the extra weight of the shaft to counterbalance the swing weight?

I can't imagine playing 85 gram shaft in a driver.

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 06:00 AM

I'd like to compare to a lot! haha ...I have a lot to choose from - T1100 6.5 1" tipped, Hzrd Blk 6.5 1" tipped, Yzrd Yellow 6.5, EF Blk 6.5 1" tipped, Atmos black TS 7x, Kiyoshi Black 5flex. and Synergy Black Tour ;)

Edited by Go_Time, 19 July 2018 - 06:00 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:08 PM

My SS is 105-108 but I like the 6.5 HZRDUS Black and Red better than the 6.0. Counterbalanced shafts don't work for me but I'm excited to try a HZRDUS Black that is a bit more balanced.
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Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:58 PM

Well found a black that’s 85 g for my 3 wood, would love to give this new smoke a go in my f8+ driver

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 01:03 PM

Do we have a release date yet?

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 01:05 PM

Late fall


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Posted 21 July 2018 - 01:34 PM

 Go_Time, on 21 July 2018 - 01:05 PM, said:

Late fall

Aka snow on the ground in South Dakota

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 09:53 PM

Should let some guys in Canada do some shaft testing for a change...
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Posted 22 July 2018 - 04:26 PM

There's a 6.5 flex Smoke for sale in the BST.  He's asking $450

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 08:42 PM

 Go_Time, on 22 July 2018 - 04:26 PM, said:

There's a 6.5 flex Smoke for sale in the BST.  He's asking $450

Smoke them while you got them, right?

Edited by mister2cool, 22 July 2018 - 10:09 PM.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 03:33 PM

Saw on the very cool driver-usage article posted today that Bryson is using this?!?  Makes sense....he's used both the T11 and BLACK.


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Posted 28 July 2018 - 09:25 AM

 mjbaker80, on 26 July 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

Saw on the very cool driver-usage article posted today that Bryson is using this?!?  Makes sense....he's used both the T11 and BLACK.

Link?


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Posted 28 July 2018 - 05:42 PM

Has anyone heard a release date?  Looks great if it performs anything like the Black, I'm in.
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 10:37 AM

 kcowgolf, on 28 July 2018 - 05:42 PM, said:

Has anyone heard a release date?  Looks great if it performs anything like the Black, I'm in.

Late Oct as it had been mentioned many times
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 02:40 PM

Sorry, don’t have a link off hand.  Was the front page on WRX.com this week.  Easy to find....

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 08:09 AM

Love how it looks. I hope they resolve some of the issues weíve been seeing with broken evenflow shafts.


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