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New Project X Hzrdus smoke shaft - 2018


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#31 mizunoMP14

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:36 AM

The black HZRDUS logo assumes its some sort of black profile.

I wonder if these are counterbalanced/higher balance point version of the black.   The black is the opposite of counterbalanced, almost tip heavy.  Counterbalanced seems to be the trend today with the heavy driver heads and 45"+ lengths.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:04 AM

I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... :(
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:27 AM

Iíve had my smoke since April and I love it. Havenít been give the okay yet to give details but some here are partially correct in guessing the profile.

Edited by double or triple?, 10 July 2018 - 10:18 AM.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:38 AM

They are really coming out with a lot of shafts.  Will be interesting where this one falls in the HZRDUS family.  Needing to find a new driver shaft as mines starting disintegrate on the inside, so I've been testing out a Black, but its just not quite the right fit.
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:01 AM

Looks cool. I like the color scheme. The font they used for smoke well... itís just not good. Shouldíve just used the font from Project X. Keep it simple. But what do I know. Iím just a internet golf forum analyst

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 12:43 PM

Somebody said it earlier on this thread but my guess is it's a non-counterbalanced version of the T1100. Big fan of the HZRDUS line, though I do wish the Black was a little less tip heavy. Couldn't figure out the Yellow, not a huge counterbalanced fan.
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 12:56 PM

I would think if it had T1100 fibers that it would mention it on the shaft somewhere.
I’m going to go with the others and guess a variant of the Black or between the Red and Black in terms of tip stiffness.

I would think that 80+ gram fairway shafts are still quite popular in the aftermarket.
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:32 PM

View PostPALS-SSA, on 09 July 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:


It used to be that we all were playing 130g steel in our woods.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 02:31 PM

View PostJstdoit95, on 10 July 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... :(

No way!! T1100 has the best and coolest finish among all shafts to date IMHO. I only wish that finish was more durable.
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 02:36 PM

Smoke if you got em


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 05:01 PM

 mister2cool, on 10 July 2018 - 12:27 AM, said:

 Jgarn117, on 09 July 2018 - 08:24 PM, said:

 Rpete33, on 09 July 2018 - 03:38 PM, said:

 mister2cool, on 09 July 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

 Rpete33, on 09 July 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Interesting, would be nice if they would release 80-85g options on their shafts
I honestly don't understand why this question gets asked every time..
Sorry love their products just need a heavier option
I actually have the HZRDUS black in 85 grams for my 3wood and it is a beast. I had to personally reach out to Project X and ask for the heavier option since it is tour issue only. They actually were nice enough to give me one for free!! Said it was my lucky day. I have since bought 3 other HZRDUS shafts and will be a brand loyalist for life. Especially if they keep spitting out �� shafts like this newest offering!!
Surely there are ones, well.. like everyone on WRX... would use 80+g in woods. The point I was making is that we all know there is not enough demand for that for anyone to seriously consider releasing it in quantity. Yet the question gets brought up within the first few posts of every new shaft thread. The trend of the world is to make things lighter, not heavier, and stronger with advancement of new material and build techniques.

Except that you are neglecting the concept of adding the weight strategically where you want.  That is the whole concept behind counterbalancing.  

There is also a physical limit where players can no longer "feel" the club because it is too light.  This is why many players want a heavier shaft.  

Reality is that they offered the T1100 up to a 95g weight.  So there is no reason that they CAN'T make them heavy enough.  It's more sad that everyone knows they will make them for the Tour, but force players who want them to jump through hoops because they won't acknowledge they exist to the general public.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 08:42 PM

Just when I thought my M3 with the HZRDUS black was all the driver I needed!
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:25 PM

 meliaant, on 10 July 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

Just when I thought my M3 with the HZRDUS black was all the driver I needed!

Thats my setup too.

9.5* 460cc M3 with HC HZRDUS Black 63g 6.5..

Wondering how this smoke shaft will work... have the black in my P790 UDI as well...

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:26 PM

This looks hzrdus to my wallet

Edited by ago33, 10 July 2018 - 09:26 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:39 PM

 PALS-SSA, on 10 July 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

Except that you are neglecting the concept of adding the weight strategically where you want.  That is the whole concept behind counterbalancing.  

There is also a physical limit where players can no longer "feel" the club because it is too light.  This is why many players want a heavier shaft.  

Reality is that they offered the T1100 up to a 95g weight.  So there is no reason that they CAN'T make them heavy enough.  It's more sad that everyone knows they will make them for the Tour, but force players who want them to jump through hoops because they won't acknowledge they exist to the general public.

I am not following the logic of counterbalancing and weight. It doesn't have to be 80+g to get a shaft counter balanced.
I was talking about releasing 80+g wood shaft to retail doesn't make sense for manufactures. What is interesting is that the picture of 95g T1100 I saw actually looks a bit off. It could be the lighting but the finish really doesn't look right. Even the butt sticker doesn't look like what was on the ones directly from PX lab. I would have to inquire TT about those.
Hey, to each his own. You like heavy shafts and it is all good. Those would be harder and harder to find for sure.

Edited by mister2cool, 10 July 2018 - 09:40 PM.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:08 PM

So itís either a counter balanced black with no T1100 material

Or

A T1100 black that isnít counter balanced.

Just my guess.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:44 PM

 mister2cool, on 10 July 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

 Jstdoit95, on 10 July 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... :(

No way!! T1100 has the best and coolest finish among all shafts to date IMHO. I only wish that finish was more durable.
They can’t use the T1100 finish on this one. They would have to call it Smoke and Mirrors, and that is terrible marketing.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:58 PM

Nothing from True Temper on this one yet?!
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:27 PM

 double or triple?, on 10 July 2018 - 09:27 AM, said:

Iíve had my smoke since April and I love it. Havenít been give the okay yet to give details but some here are partially correct in guessing the profile.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:19 AM

I an betting itís a counter balanced shaft with the black profile

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:59 AM

 getair23, on 11 July 2018 - 10:44 PM, said:

 mister2cool, on 10 July 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

 Jstdoit95, on 10 July 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

I’d like my t1100 to have that finish please.... :(

No way!! T1100 has the best and coolest finish among all shafts to date IMHO. I only wish that finish was more durable.
They can’t use the T1100 finish on this one. They would have to call it Smoke and Mirrors, and that is terrible marketing.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:53 AM

Missed opportunity

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:40 AM

 DTown3011, on 11 July 2018 - 10:58 PM, said:

Nothing from True Temper on this one yet?!

DB is on vacation this week so perhaps he'll jump in with some info next week.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:50 AM

My take:

A "more playable" black profile that is more traditionally balanced to slighly counterbalanced.  No T1100 as it is not mentioned in the graphics like the original T1100 or the EvenFlow White T1100.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:16 PM

Smoke will have similar profile and feel to the Black, but with different materials and lower spin. Oct/Nov retail timeline.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:22 PM

 Go_Time, on 12 July 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Smoke will have similar profile and feel to the Black, but with different materials and lower spin. Oct/Nov retail timeline.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:45 PM

No T1100 and itís not counter balanced (hzrdus yellow) or tip heavy (hzrdus black).

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 01:05 AM

Is it out on tour yet?..if so is anyone playing it?

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:46 AM

 mister2cool, on 10 July 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

 PALS-SSA, on 10 July 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

Except that you are neglecting the concept of adding the weight strategically where you want.  That is the whole concept behind counterbalancing.  

There is also a physical limit where players can no longer "feel" the club because it is too light.  This is why many players want a heavier shaft.  

Reality is that they offered the T1100 up to a 95g weight.  So there is no reason that they CAN'T make them heavy enough.  It's more sad that everyone knows they will make them for the Tour, but force players who want them to jump through hoops because they won't acknowledge they exist to the general public.

I am not following the logic of counterbalancing and weight. It doesn't have to be 80+g to get a shaft counter balanced.
I was talking about releasing 80+g wood shaft to retail doesn't make sense for manufactures. What is interesting is that the picture of 95g T1100 I saw actually looks a bit off. It could be the lighting but the finish really doesn't look right. Even the butt sticker doesn't look like what was on the ones directly from PX lab. I would have to inquire TT about those.
Hey, to each his own. You like heavy shafts and it is all good. Those would be harder and harder to find for sure.

I can confirm that the T1100 95g wood shaft does exist, DJ plays it on and off and I own one. The sticker on the butt end is the original stickers they use before they take something to production, its more of a printer label sticker on paper not the slightly more durable one that they use for the production retail stuff.

Hzrdus Black 95 also exists on tour and there are multiple different heavier hybrid weights that are tour only in the Hzrdus/Evenflow line up as well

Last year TT/PX made some of the tour models available to select retailers through their TT+ (PFC) program but you had to be quick to get your hands on them.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 10:19 AM

 ForTourUseOnly, on 13 July 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

I can confirm that the T1100 95g wood shaft does exist, DJ plays it on and off and I own one. The sticker on the butt end is the original stickers they use before they take something to production, its more of a printer label sticker on paper not the slightly more durable one that they use for the production retail stuff.

Hzrdus Black 95 also exists on tour and there are multiple different heavier hybrid weights that are tour only in the Hzrdus/Evenflow line up as well

Last year TT/PX made some of the tour models available to select retailers through their TT+ (PFC) program but you had to be quick to get your hands on them.

Yes TT confirmed that they did make T1100 in 95g as "one off for tour" but didn't go further into any details. I do know DJ played that in his 3W and that doesn't surprise me either.  However, they said they said did sell it through their PFC so I am amazed that there are so many out there.

Below is a picture of the butt sticker from an ebay listing. The usual printed sticker is to the right of the photo. It usually has product name, flex weight, and date it was made. It's that big bold sticker that look strange to me. I have never seen any HC shafts came from the lab with a second sticker.
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This is what's on my EF White:
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This was what came on my T1100
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Edited by mister2cool, 13 July 2018 - 10:30 AM.

2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow T1100 65 6.0
2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
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