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New Project X Hzrdus smoke shaft - 2018


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#151 agoodmanmbk

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 05:54 PM

View PostKPH808, on 05 February 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

Do they make handcrafted version of this shaft?

No the Smoke and Smoke Yellow were made after they decided to ship manufacturing overseas......

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 07:40 PM

View PostMattyO1984, on 19 September 2018 - 05:42 AM, said:

I gave the Smoke a go yesterday and it wasn't for me. My fitter took me down to being between the Smoke and Even Flow T1100 but the T1100 won out in the end.

They were both in a 6.0 Flex I wasn't a fan of the feel of the Smoke. I tried them with the Titleist TS3 with everything in neutral. The Smoke I felt like I was having to feel like I was trying to hit a big push to the right to stop it from hooking. To be fair, I have been using a Diamana D+ for the past 5-6 years and the T1100 was probably closer to that than the Smoke so that may have had an impact on it but I just wasn't loving the feel of the Smoke.

The entire EF line is much closer in feel to Dimana than HZRDUS. With the Smoke you don't have to swing as aggressively as you would with the original Black but you pretty much still have to be on the aggressive side during transition in order to load properly. EF ones would load up with a much smoother transition. I was a long time Diamana fan as well, and totally fell in love my EF line of shafts.
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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:17 PM

Great shaft in my TS2 3W/5W...beat out the Tensei, T1100
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 05:17 AM

View Postmister2cool, on 05 February 2019 - 07:40 PM, said:

View PostMattyO1984, on 19 September 2018 - 05:42 AM, said:

I gave the Smoke a go yesterday and it wasn't for me. My fitter took me down to being between the Smoke and Even Flow T1100 but the T1100 won out in the end.

They were both in a 6.0 Flex I wasn't a fan of the feel of the Smoke. I tried them with the Titleist TS3 with everything in neutral. The Smoke I felt like I was having to feel like I was trying to hit a big push to the right to stop it from hooking. To be fair, I have been using a Diamana D+ for the past 5-6 years and the T1100 was probably closer to that than the Smoke so that may have had an impact on it but I just wasn't loving the feel of the Smoke.

The entire EF line is much closer in feel to Dimana than HZRDUS. With the Smoke you don't have to swing as aggressively as you would with the original Black but you pretty much still have to be on the aggressive side during transition in order to load properly. EF ones would load up with a much smoother transition. I was a long time Diamana fan as well, and totally fell in love my EF line of shafts.
Wondering how you view the EF White
and if you would ever consider it in a fairway wood
thanks
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 08:57 AM

View Postagoodmanmbk, on 05 February 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

View PostKPH808, on 05 February 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

Do they make handcrafted version of this shaft?

No the Smoke and Smoke Yellow were made after they decided to ship manufacturing overseas......

The smoke’s shown in the picture at the beginning of this thread are handcrafted versions.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 09:31 AM

View PostMorry, on 06 February 2019 - 05:17 AM, said:

View Postmister2cool, on 05 February 2019 - 07:40 PM, said:

View PostMattyO1984, on 19 September 2018 - 05:42 AM, said:

I gave the Smoke a go yesterday and it wasn't for me. My fitter took me down to being between the Smoke and Even Flow T1100 but the T1100 won out in the end.

They were both in a 6.0 Flex I wasn't a fan of the feel of the Smoke. I tried them with the Titleist TS3 with everything in neutral. The Smoke I felt like I was having to feel like I was trying to hit a big push to the right to stop it from hooking. To be fair, I have been using a Diamana D+ for the past 5-6 years and the T1100 was probably closer to that than the Smoke so that may have had an impact on it but I just wasn't loving the feel of the Smoke.

The entire EF line is much closer in feel to Dimana than HZRDUS. With the Smoke you don't have to swing as aggressively as you would with the original Black but you pretty much still have to be on the aggressive side during transition in order to load properly. EF ones would load up with a much smoother transition. I was a long time Diamana fan as well, and totally fell in love my EF line of shafts.
Wondering how you view the EF White
and if you would ever consider it in a fairway wood
thanks

There is another thread on EF White, and I'd rather not repeat too much here. Basically I like EF White but I'm better suited for EF Black.
Would I consider EF White for fairway or Smoke? Neither is well suited for me for fairway as I tend to hit low balls. I am using EF Blue in fairway to get a little help on launch angle. If you are a high ball hitter and have the club head speed, both are good options. I think HZRDUS Black\Smoke are better suited for a hitter where EF White is better for a sweeper.
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Posted 06 February 2019 - 06:54 PM

Thanks
Will be interesting if the smoke yellow fills that role well

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 02:21 PM

View PostMorry, on 06 February 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

Thanks
Will be interesting if the smoke yellow fills that role well

The HZ Yellow is my current favorite from all we tested, really looking forward to the smoke Yellow.
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 03:05 PM

View PostPixlPutterman, on 07 February 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:

View PostMorry, on 06 February 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

Thanks
Will be interesting if the smoke yellow fills that role well

The HZ Yellow is my current favorite from all we tested, really looking forward to the smoke Yellow.

When is that being released?
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 03:43 PM

View PostmBiden2, on 07 February 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:

View PostPixlPutterman, on 07 February 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:

View PostMorry, on 06 February 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

Thanks
Will be interesting if the smoke yellow fills that role well

The HZ Yellow is my current favorite from all we tested, really looking forward to the smoke Yellow.

When is that being released?

If it gets released it wonít be for awhile. They are just starting to do limited tour testing now


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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:51 PM

They won't start non tour testing till late March so my guess is a late spring public release
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 04:05 AM

Was fitted for my Cobra F9 yesterday and i was suprises i was fitted for the hzardus smoke 60g stiff shaft. My swingspeed was tops 102 mph and average 100 mph. Had tried the Atmos blue tour spec regular shaft before at the store and it feelt good but at the day at the fitting i spread it all over the place. I had the Aldila green 65g stiff before and i think the Smoke is more similar to my previous shaft wich made it feel real good. I thought i would get a regular shaft in my Cobra since i have feelt that the Aldila shaft maybe was wrongly fitted for me before since i am in the low 100mph bracket.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:23 PM

Got my sub zero out yesterday with the HZRDUS smoke and am thoroughly impressed. I'd put this shaft in the "smooth one piece" feeling category - not sure that is a thing actually. It reminds me a lot of the old ALDILA RIP BETA shafts I have lying around that I go back to from time to time. It transitions/loads nicely and I can definitely still feel where the club head is throughout the swing. 80 6.5 ordered for 3 wood!!

Edited by Rig14Port, 12 February 2019 - 04:54 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:27 PM

Just ordered the new CBX 119 13.5* with Smoke 70x aka 6.5. Anybody have experience with this specific shaft in 3 wood?

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 06:36 PM

 stk123, on 13 February 2019 - 12:27 PM, said:

Just ordered the new CBX 119 13.5* with Smoke 70x aka 6.5. Anybody have experience with this specific shaft in 3 wood?
Should be a bomber... Low/ mid launch & low spin  with really tight dispersion. FYI - 70 is the weight 6.5 is the flex.

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:31 AM

 Rig14Port, on 13 February 2019 - 06:36 PM, said:

 stk123, on 13 February 2019 - 12:27 PM, said:

Just ordered the new CBX 119 13.5* with Smoke 70x aka 6.5. Anybody have experience with this specific shaft in 3 wood?
Should be a bomber... Low/ mid launch & low spin  with really tight dispersion. FYI - 70 is the weight 6.5 is the flex.

Thanks for info. FYI, I am aware 70 is weight and 6.5 is flex. I was trying to write I got 70 in x-stiff aka 6.5 :derisive:

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 04:06 PM

 Rig14Port, on 11 February 2019 - 09:23 PM, said:

Got my sub zero out yesterday with the HZRDUS smoke and am thoroughly impressed. I'd put this shaft in the "smooth one piece" feeling category - not sure that is a thing actually. It reminds me a lot of the old ALDILA RIP BETA shafts I have lying around that I go back to from time to time. It transitions/loads nicely and I can definitely still feel where the club head is throughout the swing. 80 6.5 ordered for 3 wood!!

Thoroughly agree, Callaway sent me the 6.0 Smoke instead of the 6.5 and I was very surprised by how smooth and controlled it was. A 6.0 as well, I like it so much I am considering keeping it as a backup. it's a mid launch and spin but the look of the flight. Defnitely one of the better "stock" shafts that comes bundled by the OEM. Nice job TT & its not even HC

ps I would prefer this shaft over the HC Yellow 6.5 I once had

Edited by SwingBlues, 14 February 2019 - 04:07 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 04:17 PM

I still havenít found the bend profile for Smoke.

Without knowing, is it stiff butt, medium middle and firm+ tip?
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 05:14 PM

 MrShield, on 14 February 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

I still haven't found the bend profile for Smoke.

Without knowing, is it stiff butt, medium middle and firm+ tip?

Just going off of feel I'd say medium butt, medium middle and stiff tip with a mid kick point.....once again based on my findings which could be different than others.
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