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#1 MoneyPlayer33

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 08:56 AM

Ok guys now rhat we have seen these 2 at there best and seen them both struggle lately i ask the question who will end up with the better career . ??


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 10:13 AM

Iíll take Jordan over anybody playing golf right now

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 10:15 AM

Rory's got the talent, Jordan's got the fire in his belly. Ill say Jordan just because he cares more. I do reserve the right to change my answer, should Rory someday decide he wants it again.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:50 AM

Jordan Spieth is the next gen legend.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:50 AM

Rory for now


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:52 AM

When TW was young, Jack said wait til he has a family and stuff changes in life. Unless Jordan is entering a monastery anytime soon, he too will have more important priorities than golf.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 01:00 PM

Jordan.

Although I believe Rory has more talent and more potential.
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Posted 07 July 2018 - 01:09 PM

Jordan.  He has zero quit in him. Rory.  Well he has his and Jordanís share.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 01:55 PM

View Posttiderider, on 07 July 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

Iíll take Jordan over anybody playing golf right now.

Yep.  More than any other guy out there, Jordan is in this for the long haul.  He will likely still be a force on TOUR 30 years from now.  Don't feel that way about anyone else, with the possible exception of Rickie Fowler.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 02:08 PM

Talk about skill and talent all you want, but I think Jordan knows how to play golf better than Rory. Rory is all about big drives and striped irons, but the guy has struggled for years now hitting it pin high, not to mention heís awful with the putter. Apparently he put a ďhuge effortĒ into his US Open prep this year, and he missed the cut by a mile. Iím certain Rory doesnít practice like he used to, and is probably enjoying life as a newlywed rich man (nothing wrong with that). If Rory ever has kids, expect him to drop off the map entirely, kind of like Johnny Miller.

Jordan can contend playing not his best, specifically at majors. Eventually he will bounce back from this mono stuff and make some more putts. Unlike Rory, Jordan could be worth a billion and still want to get the W and work hard for it.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 02:09 PM

If McIlroy could putt, it would definitely be him.
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Posted 07 July 2018 - 02:47 PM

View PostNaptime, on 07 July 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

When TW was young, Jack said wait til he has a family and stuff changes in life. Unless Jordan is entering a monastery anytime soon, he too will have more important priorities than golf.

jack said he would be better once he got married and had a family ...

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 03:01 PM

Jordan looks like he wants more.
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Posted 07 July 2018 - 04:14 PM

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Talk about skill and talent all you want, but I think Jordan knows how to play golf better than Rory. Rory is all about big drives and striped irons, but the guy has struggled for years now hitting it pin high, not to mention he's awful with the putter. Apparently he put a "huge effort" into his US Open prep this year, and he missed the cut by a mile. I'm certain Rory doesn't practice like he used to, and is probably enjoying life as a newlywed rich man (nothing wrong with that). If Rory ever has kids, expect him to drop off the map entirely, kind of like Johnny Miller.

Jordan can contend playing not his best, specifically at majors. Eventually he will bounce back from this mono stuff and make some more putts. Unlike Rory, Jordan could be worth a billion and still want to get the W and work hard for it.

All my opinion of course.

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 07 July 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

Talk about skill and talent all you want, but I think Jordan knows how to play golf better than Rory. Rory is all about big drives and striped irons, but the guy has struggled for years now hitting it pin high, not to mention he's awful with the putter. Apparently he put a "huge effort" into his US Open prep this year, and he missed the cut by a mile. I'm certain Rory doesn't practice like he used to, and is probably enjoying life as a newlywed rich man (nothing wrong with that). If Rory ever has kids, expect him to drop off the map entirely, kind of like Johnny Miller.

Jordan can contend playing not his best, specifically at majors. Eventually he will bounce back from this mono stuff and make some more putts. Unlike Rory, Jordan could be worth a billion and still want to get the W and work hard for it.

All my opinion of course.

Well, I agree with your opinion PTM.  Well said.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 04:16 PM

Some McIlroy stats:

He is currently second in strokes gained off the tee as well as approaches. Third around the green. And, 200th in putting.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 07:25 PM

View PostSean2, on 07 July 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

If McIlroy could putt, it would definitely be him.

While I understand this at its core  ......Im still shocked how often people marginalized putting...like if you hit it long and pure your irons your entitled to greatness......(laughable).  A great golfer HAS to be a good putter...period

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 07:10 AM

View PostSean2, on 07 July 2018 - 04:16 PM, said:

Some McIlroy stats:

He is currently second in strokes gained off the tee as well as approaches. Third around the green. And, 200th in putting.

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 07:39 AM

Nothing here is based on facts, just conjecture from playing and seeing him up close at tournament and back home.

Having been fortunate enough to see Rory a couple of times when I have been out to Bears Club, he definitely practices and works hard on his game. (Although there can be a point a where you see diminishing returns on your practice, at least I happen to believe that is true). I can only attest to Rory, having seen him up close and in person multiple times. He is one of the few players in the game that can win with a mediocre putting performance. His driving and iron play are legitimate weapons, when they are dialed in. The thing that stands out when I watch Rory is the lack of finesse, I don't see him hitting anything soft or bouncing it back to a hole, it always seems to me he is flying it to every hole. I almost wonder how much he would benefit from someone like Steve Williams or Butch Harmon as a coach to get in his ear and tell him how it should be. He is a tremendous talent, and I do not envy the immense pressure and superlatives that were placed upon him when he first burst onto the scene, that being said he has done quite well and I would gladly trade games with either of the two. I am a Rory fan, something about Jordan I cannot get behind although he is a great player (game respects game).

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 07:50 AM

Rory is my favourite golfer. Jordan will better him though. 😬

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:44 PM

I going with Jordan simply because he plays more events and there is no doubt that his game plays better at Augusta than Rory's.  So for that reason I see him reaching more major wins than Rory.  I also think that Jordan has a far superior short game than Rory which will equate to more wins.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:56 PM

Regular Tour Career?
Jordan

Regular and Senior?
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Overall Global Success?
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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:59 PM

View PostBNGL, on 08 July 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

The thing that stands out when I watch Rory is the lack of finesse, I don't see him hitting anything soft or bouncing it back to a hole, it always seems to me he is flying it to every hole.

I've said it before but I swear he seems to have significantly better distance control when he hits those hold off finish knockdown types of approach shots. I don't know why he doesn't take that approach more because the big full swing moon balls that he seems to normally hit seem so much harder to control, especially if there is even a breath of wind.

Aside from all that I agree with the general "Rory has the talent but Jordan has the fire" comments. Not saying that Jordan isn't talented or that Rory doesn't care, but Jordan is a grinder who is passionate. Rory's attitude comes across as the naturally talented kid who seems to expect the success and gets mopey and frustrated when it isn't there. Combine the two skill sets and the USGA would have to find a way to outlaw the resulting player. :D
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Posted 09 July 2018 - 03:10 PM

View Posttiderider, on 07 July 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

I'll take Jordan over anybody playing golf right now

So you are taking the over on his career vs Tiger's career? 15 majors and 80ish wins?  Thats a bold bet.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 04:19 PM

View PostValtiel, on 09 July 2018 - 02:59 PM, said:

View PostBNGL, on 08 July 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

The thing that stands out when I watch Rory is the lack of finesse, I don't see him hitting anything soft or bouncing it back to a hole, it always seems to me he is flying it to every hole.

I've said it before but I swear he seems to have significantly better distance control when he hits those hold off finish knockdown types of approach shots. I don't know why he doesn't take that approach more because the big full swing moon balls that he seems to normally hit seem so much harder to control, especially if there is even a breath of wind.

Aside from all that I agree with the general "Rory has the talent but Jordan has the fire" comments. Not saying that Jordan isn't talented or that Rory doesn't care, but Jordan is a grinder who is passionate. Rory's attitude comes across as the naturally talented kid who seems to expect the success and gets mopey and frustrated when it isn't there. Combine the two skill sets and the USGA would have to find a way to outlaw the resulting player. :D

I have said since 2015 that if Rory had Jordan's mental side and could improve his putting, Rory could have a Tiger-like career.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 04:21 PM

View Postjallen0119, on 09 July 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

View PostValtiel, on 09 July 2018 - 02:59 PM, said:

View PostBNGL, on 08 July 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

The thing that stands out when I watch Rory is the lack of finesse, I don't see him hitting anything soft or bouncing it back to a hole, it always seems to me he is flying it to every hole.

I've said it before but I swear he seems to have significantly better distance control when he hits those hold off finish knockdown types of approach shots. I don't know why he doesn't take that approach more because the big full swing moon balls that he seems to normally hit seem so much harder to control, especially if there is even a breath of wind.

Aside from all that I agree with the general "Rory has the talent but Jordan has the fire" comments. Not saying that Jordan isn't talented or that Rory doesn't care, but Jordan is a grinder who is passionate. Rory's attitude comes across as the naturally talented kid who seems to expect the success and gets mopey and frustrated when it isn't there. Combine the two skill sets and the USGA would have to find a way to outlaw the resulting player. :D

I have said since 2015 that if Rory had Jordan's mental side and could improve his putting, Rory could have a Tiger-like career.

Agreed, those are definitely the video game skill points that are missing from an otherwise stacked deck.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 04:34 PM

View Postjallen0119, on 09 July 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

View PostValtiel, on 09 July 2018 - 02:59 PM, said:

View PostBNGL, on 08 July 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

The thing that stands out when I watch Rory is the lack of finesse, I don't see him hitting anything soft or bouncing it back to a hole, it always seems to me he is flying it to every hole.

I've said it before but I swear he seems to have significantly better distance control when he hits those hold off finish knockdown types of approach shots. I don't know why he doesn't take that approach more because the big full swing moon balls that he seems to normally hit seem so much harder to control, especially if there is even a breath of wind.

Aside from all that I agree with the general "Rory has the talent but Jordan has the fire" comments. Not saying that Jordan isn't talented or that Rory doesn't care, but Jordan is a grinder who is passionate. Rory's attitude comes across as the naturally talented kid who seems to expect the success and gets mopey and frustrated when it isn't there. Combine the two skill sets and the USGA would have to find a way to outlaw the resulting player. :D

I have said since 2015 that if Rory had Jordan's mental side and could improve his putting, Rory could have a Tiger-like career.

He just needs to have a rory like career thats it.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 04:46 PM

View PostValtiel, on 09 July 2018 - 02:59 PM, said:

View PostBNGL, on 08 July 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

The thing that stands out when I watch Rory is the lack of finesse, I don't see him hitting anything soft or bouncing it back to a hole, it always seems to me he is flying it to every hole.

I've said it before but I swear he seems to have significantly better distance control when he hits those hold off finish knockdown types of approach shots. I don't know why he doesn't take that approach more because the big full swing moon balls that he seems to normally hit seem so much harder to control, especially if there is even a breath of wind.

Aside from all that I agree with the general "Rory has the talent but Jordan has the fire" comments. Not saying that Jordan isn't talented or that Rory doesn't care, but Jordan is a grinder who is passionate. Rory's attitude comes across as the naturally talented kid who seems to expect the success and gets mopey and frustrated when it isn't there. Combine the two skill sets and the USGA would have to find a way to outlaw the resulting player. :D

It almost reminds me of a Norman story I heard when he was on the range one year at the British, and he started hitting shots 3/4 and just smoking every ball. Steve and Butch both said that those were perfect golf shots, and that he should make that his standard, but according to Greg those, "...weren't proper golf shots."

The first time that I thought Rory was special was the PGA at Kiawah, I forget the hole and day, but he had 115 yards wind into and off the left blowing 10-4, and he hit this 3/4 wedge that bore through the wind beautifully to kick in distance. That was the moment I said, this guy can be special. The ability to control the ball strike, manipulate trajectory, controlling spin he has that ability more than anyone else in my opinion. Every player has better control (distance, trajectory, spin) when controlling their golf ball. I notice this playing with Chris DiMarco the few times we have played, he's one club longer when we play back home. At an event, he's feathering a 6 instead of hitting a 7. Nowadays players hitting more full shots, to elevate and spin the ball as much as possible, because they need (or are always attacking?) to attack and when it works you say "Oh my god....this guy cannot be beat!"

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 04:47 PM

Close call but I'd say Rory.

I think he will find a groove and rattle off 3-4 more majors.

Spieth may never win another major if he doesn't learn to putt again. His best finish is 3rd place in 18 events this year.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 04:47 PM

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View Posttiderider, on 07 July 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

I'll take Jordan over anybody playing golf right now

So you are taking the over on his career vs Tiger's career? 15 majors and 80ish wins?  Thats a bold bet.
Damn man!! I was late to this thread and about to post the same. Guys saying Jordan will have a better career than any active player? Third best behind Tiger and Phil is the best he will possibly do.
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 05:08 PM

Jordan.  I think he has the ability to grind through trouble (see British Open last year) i think he will play more often snd more years than Rory and therefore have more chances.  

I say all that, and i absolutely love watching Rory play when he’s into it.

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