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Help identifying old Ping Anser putters


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#1 wallace1181

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 01:39 AM

Hoping anyone can help ID these putters?
I almost certain one is an dalehead but no idea on the one  

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 03:36 AM

First is a "Dalehead", second is not.  Note the difference in the design of the weight pads on the rear (sloped vs. angular).  There were three versions of Dales:

PING GOLF CLUBS.  BOX 1345, Scottsdale, Ariz. (Hence the Dalehead moniker.)
KARSTEN CO.  Phoenix, Ariz. 85029
KARSTEN MFG. CO.  Phoenix, Ariz. 85029

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:12 AM

Thanks mate. Do you happen to know much about the non dalehead?

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:45 AM

Cannot make out the zip code in the pic.  If 85029, manufactured mid-'66 though '67.  If 85020, made '68 - '73.  Surmising the pic is a latter version.  No P.O Box number in the cavity.  Cast from mnbr.  No sight alignment aids.  Sound slot in the head.  Quite light by contemporary standards, ~ 320g (IIRC).  Arguably, all the various Ansers of this vintage putt essentially the same.  The blockish bumper is the garden variety Anser, lots of them around.  So don't overpay if you're considering an acquisition.  They are all to frequently misrepresented as a Dalehead, or as being 'rare'.  Neither being the case.  So important to recognize the differences.

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 10:40 PM

Great info! Really appreciate it.
Picked up the first one pretty happy to find one. Donít know exactly how common they are down here in Oz. Gave the second a miss, figured it wasnít a dalehead just couldnít identify it.

Your right so many priced at dalehead prices that arenít.



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 03:18 PM

View PostFellaheen51, on 06 July 2018 - 04:45 AM, said:

Cannot make out the zip code in the pic.  If 85029, manufactured mid-'66 though '67.  If 85020, made '68 - '73.  Surmising the pic is a latter version.  No P.O Box number in the cavity.  Cast from mnbr.  No sight alignment aids.  Sound slot in the head.  Quite light by contemporary standards, ~ 320g (IIRC).  Arguably, all the various Ansers of this vintage putt essentially the same.  The blockish bumper is the garden variety Anser, lots of them around.  So don't overpay if you're considering an acquisition.  They are all to frequently misrepresented as a Dalehead, or as being 'rare'.  Neither being the case.  So important to recognize the differences.

Very useful info for all. Thanks
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 11:01 PM

Pretty cool: Just dug out my Dadís Kushin in the basement menagerie of clubs and it has a 85029 zip code. Sound slot with sight dash only on topline. Has a flow neck shaft and original grip. He was an excellent putter, had it forever.

He and my uncle converted my uncleís dairy farm to a public golf course in Jasper, Alabama (now closed but you can still make out the holes.) My uncle was an early Ping dealer and my cousins are all good golfers and all played Ping, every club.

I may clean this Kushin up and see how it comes out.
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