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#1 Picoletray

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 12:40 PM

Does anyone know what year these were created?  They're a former PGA set Don Bies used, possibly used when he beat Arnold Palmer in Match play, so the story goes. I found he did, in fact, best him in match play '72.  I could not find these on ironfinder eBay or other vintage sites.  The seller was not certain that these were the clubs...  Bies had many sets.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 12:57 PM

Good looking clubs! I'd guess either 1971 or 1972. They look just like the button back dynapower irons from those years, but without the button back. It might be possible that they custom made this set without the button backs for Don Bies...
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 01:06 PM

View Postjslane57, on 05 July 2018 - 12:57 PM, said:

Good looking clubs! I'd guess either 1971 or 1972. They look just like the button back dynapower irons from those years, but without the button back. It might be possible that they custom made this set without the button backs for Don Bies...

This is exactly what I thought when I saw them. I have a set of custom 75' dynapowers that don't have the circular port near the toe like the regular model.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 01:14 PM

View Postjslane57, on 05 July 2018 - 12:57 PM, said:

Good looking clubs! I'd guess either 1971 or 1972. They look just like the button back dynapower irons from those years, but without the button back. It might be possible that they custom made this set without the button backs for Don Bies...

View Postbaloo, on 05 July 2018 - 01:06 PM, said:

View Postjslane57, on 05 July 2018 - 12:57 PM, said:

Good looking clubs! I'd guess either 1971 or 1972. They look just like the button back dynapower irons from those years, but without the button back. It might be possible that they custom made this set without the button backs for Don Bies...

This is exactly what I thought when I saw them. I have a set of custom 75' dynapowers that don't have the circular port near the toe like the regular model.

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View Postjslane57, on 05 July 2018 - 12:57 PM, said:

Good looking clubs! I'd guess either 1971 or 1972. They look just like the button back dynapower irons from those years, but without the button back. It might be possible that they custom made this set without the button backs for Don Bies...

This is exactly what I thought when I saw them. I have a set of custom 75' dynapowers that don't have the circular port near the toe like the regular model.

The seller did mention the 8-PW Were factory ground to have the same straight top ridge as the rest.  They look perfect, no way to tell they were ever ground.  They do look exactly like the button back now that you mention it.  Thanks.  I'd say mystery solved!

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:53 PM

They are definitely out of the custom shop. That L-461 number on the back means something. Rex or Birly Shirley may chime in and tell you for sure--- Both of them are up on that stuff

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:59 PM

View PostBIG STU, on 05 July 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

They are definitely out of the custom shop. That L-461 number on the back means something. Rex or Birly Shirley may chime in and tell you for sure--- Both of them are up on that stuff

That's actually E-461.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:16 PM

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Very nice set of Wilson Staff Dynapower irons!  The '71-72 "Buttonback" grind was one of the most popular Dynapower grinds ever.

As most of you know, not all custom work is identified by number, or by name.

The number you give, E-461, would have been listed in the Wilson Staff Dynapower Custom grind numbers, which were contained in a series of 3 ring binders.

To my knowledge, these binders had nearly every custom listing done by Wilson Staff since their inception in the late 40s/early '50s.

The custom binders may have been started by Master grinder Robert Mendralla Sr., (RIP) "..but as of 2014, due to retirements and employee turnover in their custom department, Wilson Golf closed this department to the public. It was a corporate decision."

(Yes, I called and asked, and this was Wilson's response.)

The current location of the Wilson custom 3 ring binders is not known, but it has been surmised they were given to Robert Mendralla Jr.

They might tell you at Wilson Demo day, but most likely, they won't know.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:23 PM

The type of shaft would give a good indication of what year they were made. Very nice clubs.

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:15 PM

No labels on the shafts.  They're in excellent condition, same as the grip-rite grips.  They feel like a heavy weight shaft.  The heads are tiny compared to modern clubs.  But yeah, those binders full of clubs, too bad they're not available.

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 03:19 AM

View Postrex235, on 05 July 2018 - 04:16 PM, said:

Picole-

Very nice set of Wilson Staff Dynapower irons!  The '71-72 "Buttonback" grind was one of the most popular Dynapower grinds ever.

As most of you know, not all custom work is identified by number, or by name.

The number you give, E-461, would have been listed in the Wilson Staff Dynapower Custom grind numbers, which were contained in a series of 3 ring binders.

To my knowledge, these binders had nearly every custom listing done by Wilson Staff since their inception in the late 40s/early '50s.

The custom binders may have been started by Master grinder Robert Mendralla Sr., (RIP) "..but as of 2014, due to retirements and employee turnover in their custom department, Wilson Golf closed this department to the public. It was a corporate decision."

(Yes, I called and asked, and this was Wilson's response.)

The current location of the Wilson custom 3 ring binders is not known, but it has been surmised they were given to Robert Mendralla Jr.

They might tell you at Wilson Demo day, but most likely, they won't know.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 05:16 PM

Stu-

Thanks to Freddie-

Larry Bobka (Check out his Wrxcast as few moons ago) did confirm the existence of the 3 ring binders last year by email.  

He also gave me the name of the person who most likely ground Sir Bob Charles irons when he was with Wilson Staff 30 years ago.

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