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#1 Rpete33

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 09:59 AM

I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g.  I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.



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Posted 01 July 2018 - 10:57 AM

I have used a Matrix Black Tie hm3 105, and currently use a Tensei Pro White 90. I would suggest both of these, and the Tensei comes in 100, if you prefer the heavier.
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Posted 01 July 2018 - 11:45 AM

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it thatís over 100g.  I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.

You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.

Edited by endy, 01 July 2018 - 11:46 AM.

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 11:55 AM

View Postendy, on 01 July 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g.  I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.

You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.

Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 04:39 PM

Any reviews out there on recoil prototype utility shafts? 125 f5 sounds good


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Posted 01 July 2018 - 05:29 PM

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View Postendy, on 01 July 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it thatís over 100g.  I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.

You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.

Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I wonít like it
It is soft butt; have you tried the Black Tie?
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Posted 01 July 2018 - 05:50 PM

View PostGMR2iron, on 01 July 2018 - 05:29 PM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View Postendy, on 01 July 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g.  I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.

You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.

Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it
It is soft butt; have you tried the Black Tie?

Only in a driver

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 06:11 PM

Iíve got a Fuji  pro 115 iron shaft coming in a few days. Iíll let you know how it is
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 02:46 PM

Might want to check out the UST VTS Black.
Can grab them at a decent price.
S is 98g
X is 100g
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:26 PM

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View Postendy, on 01 July 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g.  I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.

You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.

Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 08:13 PM

View PostMooJersey, on 02 July 2018 - 07:26 PM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View Postendy, on 01 July 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 01 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it thatís over 100g.  I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.

You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.

Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I wonít like it

Thatís what she said!   OHHHHHH

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 09:49 PM

View Postdanielryanw, on 02 July 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Might want to check out the UST VTS Black.
Can grab them at a decent price.
S is 98g
X is 100g

This is the shaft , In X Flex. It is stiffer than the TX flex in the butt.

Comes in raw 42" length .370 parallel tip , and can be tipped a little extra
before the taper to .355" and install. Will get the tip to the TX stiffness.

This shaft is stout. Looking at the OP's signature , I would guess he would
have the speed to make it work. I have used this shaft in hybrid builds for
2 players with 120+ driver speeds. UST lists this shaft as mid / low....
Trust me ..it plays low / low.... HZRDUS Black low....


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:18 PM

I have hit the HZRDUS 105 and it reminds me of a graphite version of a c taper.

I have also played a VTS black 100 x and it is not close to the HZRDUS 105. The HZRDUS is much lower launch and stiffer.

The matrix Hm3 black tie could work, there is a 105 XX flex that could give you same launch and spin.

The thump is really not that low launching. its just really low torque and feels stiff.  I have the bend profile image saved i will post up.
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:20 PM

This is the HZRDUS black bend profile, the super stiff mid section is pretty unique.

hzrdus black.JPG


here is the thump info
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:51 PM

View PostmizunoMP14, on 02 July 2018 - 10:18 PM, said:

I have hit the HZRDUS 105 and it reminds me of a graphite version of a c taper.

I have also played a VTS black 100 x and it is not close to the HZRDUS 105. The HZRDUS is much lower launch and stiffer.

The matrix Hm3 black tie could work, there is a 105 XX flex that could give you same launch and spin.

The thump is really not that low launching. its just really low torque and feels stiff.  I have the bend profile image saved i will post up.

Both builds were for players swinging HZRDUS Black 75gram 6.5 flex tipped 1.0''
in their drivers and C-Taper 130X in their irons. I used tour issue TM SLDR hybrid heads with the VTS black 100X HY shafts tipped 1.5".  
....It worked ,for them....

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 07:49 AM

Thanks guys!

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:16 AM

Just bought a 105 xx hm3 black tie for 22.5

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:49 AM

Tensei Pro White 100. We stock them at all times as well. Significantly less butt soft feeling than the wood shafts.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 12:38 PM

View PostTollBros, on 03 July 2018 - 09:49 AM, said:

Tensei Pro White 100. We stock them at all times as well. Significantly less butt soft feeling than the wood shafts.

Agree with Tolls. I have a TPW Iím trying out in a 3w and the TPW 95tx I have in my 2udi is a much stouter overall feel. I was worried I went too light with the 95 but I read some older posts from Tolls and Gio that convinced me to go with the 95 for a driving iron and Iím glad I did.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 01:12 PM

I’m gonna try the black tie for 20 bucks and if that doesn’t feel white I’ll give the tensei white a shot


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:28 PM

View PostRpete33, on 03 July 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

Iím gonna try the black tie for 20 bucks and if that doesnít feel white Iíll give the tensei white a shot
If its any help, I had a Mizuno MP-h4 2 iron with the hm3 105 Black Tie and thought it was the greatest ever; but tried a Titleist TMB 2 iron with the Pro White 90, and forgot all about the Mizuno/Black Tie combo. Put a Pro Orange in driver, from Black Tie, and a Pro Blue in 3 wood, from Red Tie, and couldn't be happier!
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 06:32 PM

View PostGMR2iron, on 03 July 2018 - 04:28 PM, said:

View PostRpete33, on 03 July 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

I’m gonna try the black tie for 20 bucks and if that doesn’t feel white I’ll give the tensei white a shot
If its any help, I had a Mizuno MP-h4 2 iron with the hm3 105 Black Tie and thought it was the greatest ever; but tried a Titleist TMB 2 iron with the Pro White 90, and forgot all about the Mizuno/Black Tie combo. Put a Pro Orange in driver, from Black Tie, and a Pro Blue in 3 wood, from Red Tie, and couldn't be happier!

Thanks for the input! Would love to put an orange in driver and blue in wood as well


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:07 PM

I just put in a UST prototype 110f5 into my tmag UDI 18*. It doesnít suit my swing. I previously was using the C Taper Lite 115 and did hit it well, just wanted to find more distance. Iím losing the ball both ways with the UST. Itís almost as if the tip is a lot softer and not able to get into the proper position at impact. Just trailing some, if that makes sense..

Where did you fine the BLK TIE? Iíll need to find one to try.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:32 PM

View Postwarrio17, on 03 July 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

I just put in a UST prototype 110f5 into my tmag UDI 18*. It doesn’t suit my swing. I previously was using the C Taper Lite 115 and did hit it well, just wanted to find more distance. I’m losing the ball both ways with the UST. It’s almost as if the tip is a lot softer and not able to get into the proper position at impact. Just trailing some, if that makes sense..

Where did you fine the BLK TIE? I’ll need to find one to try.

Searched hm3 black tie xx and it was the first or second link that came up, 22.5 plus shipping

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 05:27 AM

View PostRpete33, on 03 July 2018 - 10:32 PM, said:

View Postwarrio17, on 03 July 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

I just put in a UST prototype 110f5 into my tmag UDI 18*. It doesn’t suit my swing. I previously was using the C Taper Lite 115 and did hit it well, just wanted to find more distance. I’m losing the ball both ways with the UST. It’s almost as if the tip is a lot softer and not able to get into the proper position at impact. Just trailing some, if that makes sense..

Where did you fine the BLK TIE? I’ll need to find one to try.

Searched hm3 black tie xx and it was the first or second link that came up, 22.5 plus shipping

Alright Well I'm underwhelmed lol. Thanks

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:18 PM

In the shop getting the new shaft put in over night, supper excited to get it out tomorrow, If it’s even close to the Nike vapor Fly Pro 3 iron it will be a missile

Edited by Rpete33, 11 July 2018 - 09:19 PM.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:38 PM

word to the wise.

I lilke Matrix shafts and bought a hM3 95 stiff from golfstealsdeals.

I weighed the raw shaft and it's 85 g.

Do the black tie's measure light?

I have a 7M3 that also is light, but I was suprised to the see the 10 g in the hM3 95g

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:09 AM

View Postgeochitown, on 11 July 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

word to the wise.

I lilke Matrix shafts and bought a hM3 95 stiff from golfstealsdeals.

I weighed the raw shaft and it's 85 g.

Do the black tie's measure light?

I have a 7M3 that also is light, but I was suprised to the see the 10 g in the hM3 95g

OP:  Would Aldila NV 105 be a similar shaft to try?

Interesting, the 105 felt similar to a current 115g  shaft I have at home. Will pick it up today, if I don’t like the matrix I will more that likely just put x100 and play same shaft as my irons

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:37 AM

very hard to find....but the Project X HA-1 is a FANTASTIC driving iron shaft.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 03:09 PM

Thing is a missile with the matrix hm3 105 xx, pushing the distance of my 3 wood


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