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Son, 11, consistently scores better in front 9 than back 9


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#1 jigsaw1011

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 06:25 PM

My son,11, started to play 18 hole tournaments last fall.  When we were looking at his scores since then we noticed a trend of him scoring much better in the front 9 than back 9.  He doesn't know why.  Anyone have any insight?

Thanks.


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#2 b.helts

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 06:27 PM

Hes getting tired. Mentally, physically or likely both.

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 06:34 PM

View Postjigsaw1011, on 27 June 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

My son,11, started to play 18 hole tournaments last fall.  When we were looking at his scores since then we noticed a trend of him scoring much better in the front 9 than back 9.  He doesn't know why.  Anyone have any insight?

Thanks.

Fatigued like b.helts said.  Remind him to eat something every six holes (or sooner) and drink some water on at least every third hole.  More often if the heat index is high.

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 06:36 PM

Best thing my son's coach did "mentally" was to make him play a game of 6 scores of 3 holes with the goal to be 1 over for each.  You mess up after the first 3 holes, you forget it and move onto the next 3 holes score, repeat.

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 07:30 PM

As everyone said he gets tired.  One thing you can do is go on long walks around the neighborhood so they get used to walking 18 holes. Also make sure they have comfortable golf shoes.



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Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:30 AM

I did some research on diet and what to eat prior to a tournament and what to eat during the tournament. Then the next challenge is to find what he will eat. I encourage his to sip a water are sports drink every hole. And every 3 holes eat something. I keep protein bars and a couple of bananas in his clic gear cooler.
Now I am still able to caddie for him so the next challenge is will he do it himself

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:11 AM

Diet is key; got some really good tips from other parents on this forum.  Followed that advice and he eats, nuts, fruits, bars, sandwich and water during the round.  We try and mix it up between salt and sweet stuff, and the idea is to keep it healthy and filling without getting sugar rushes and crashes.  No sports drinks or soda.  

Away from that,  i generally feel he gets tired and looses intensity during hole 12-15 - the last few times he did something to break the routine and getting pepped up with a focus to finish strong!

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:47 AM

Diet.  Limit unnatural sugars.  No Bread.  Water, nuts (preferably almonds), bananas, apples, jerky, more water.  No juices and no gatorade type drinks.

Make sure he eats eggs banana for breakfast as well with water.

Edited by heavy_hitter, 28 June 2018 - 11:48 AM.


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Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:56 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 28 June 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

Diet.  Limit unnatural sugars.  No Bread.  Water, nuts (preferably almonds), bananas, apples, jerky, more water.  No juices and no gatorade type drinks.

Make sure he eats eggs banana for breakfast as well with water.

It's all about the pickle baby.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:31 PM

At 11 ... wouldn't get too analytical about it yet.  Make sure he's having fun and he'll keep going with the sport.


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Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:38 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 28 June 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

...No juices and no gatorade type drinks...


What?!?!? But that article you posted says Gatorade good! Sugar highs!

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 02:06 PM

View PostBertGA, on 28 June 2018 - 12:38 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 28 June 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

...No juices and no gatorade type drinks...


What?!?!? But that article you posted says Gatorade good! Sugar highs!

Says to swish in mouth and spit out.


LMAO

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 06:25 AM

If you have room in cooler, try a nutritional drink like Muscle Milk or ensure . My son recently started to drink about 1/2 before round and 1/2 midway through. Seems to have helped.  This in addition to snacks every third hole , usually banaana, apple, or almonds , and me shoving water in his face EVERY chance I get., ha.

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 08:24 AM

View Posthangontight, on 29 June 2018 - 06:25 AM, said:

If you have room in cooler, try a nutritional drink like Muscle Milk or ensure . My son recently started to drink about 1/2 before round and 1/2 midway through. Seems to have helped.  This in addition to snacks every third hole , usually banaana, apple, or almonds , and me shoving water in his face EVERY chance I get., ha.

Muscle Milk is one of the few drinks I would allow.  Great Product full of protein and very low sugars.

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 12:28 PM

Having the right foods/snacks is one thing and making a child eat it is a whole other battle we face.  My son normally won't eat until his is very hungry and by then its just too late.  Besides physically shoving food and water down his throat, I'm not sure what to do.  With 3 18 hole rounds coming up next week its going to be tough.

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 02:21 PM

View Postkekoa, on 29 June 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Having the right foods/snacks is one thing and making a child eat it is a whole other battle we face.  My son normally won't eat until his is very hungry and by then its just too late.  Besides physically shoving food and water down his throat, I'm not sure what to do.  With 3 18 hole rounds coming up next week its going to be tough.

Totally agree with this you can't make them eat. I think it's a maturity thing too.  I found with my kids I can tell them a lot things but they simply do not listen unless someone else tells them.  Sent my daughter to camp and they talked about nutrition and now she gets it even though I been telling her for years to do what they just told her :dntknw: .

Edited by tiger1873, 29 June 2018 - 02:22 PM.


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Posted 29 June 2018 - 02:44 PM

View Postkekoa, on 29 June 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Having the right foods/snacks is one thing and making a child eat it is a whole other battle we face.  My son normally won't eat until his is very hungry and by then its just too late.  Besides physically shoving food and water down his throat, I'm not sure what to do.  With 3 18 hole rounds coming up next week its going to be tough.

At 8 they are too young to understand how important it is.  Nutrition on the course is an important role to playing and scoring well.  You can get away with it on 9 holes.  You can't get away on 18 holes.

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 02:46 PM

Thanks everyone for your feedback.  He drank lots more water and ate some fruit every few holes.  He shot his best score(75) and had consistent energy throughout the round.

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 03:10 PM

View Postjigsaw1011, on 02 July 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Thanks everyone for your feedback.  He drank lots more water and ate some fruit every few holes.  He shot his best score(75) and had consistent energy throughout the round.

That's what I'm talking about.  

I was shocked that course nutrition meant as much as it does.  It is huge.

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 03:13 PM

Two words: Himalayan Salt


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 03:36 PM

View PostFrom_Parts_Unknown, on 02 July 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

Two words: Himalayan Salt

1/2 teaspoon per gallon of distilled water folks.  Add a squeeze of lemon for taste.

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 08:44 PM

My son is completely opposite. plays better back 9. Never have any issue with his eating healthy are drinking water on the course.
Shot his best score today 74 2 over par and had 3 birdies on the back 9
He has the ability to get under par just hasn't been able to do it on the front 9. And he's still in the 9 hole devision. But the. Grind out again tomorrow. 😁

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 09:11 PM

I think you are all nuts he's 11 what does it matter.

Edited by Big Ben, 02 July 2018 - 09:17 PM.

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:05 PM

View PostBig Ben, on 02 July 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

I think you are all nuts he's 11 what does it matter.

Shut it down folks... Big Ben has spoken.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:44 AM

View PostBig Ben, on 02 July 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

I think you are all nuts he's 11 what does it matter.

Are you advocating poor nutrition?


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:53 AM

No of course not it's that I seriously think we push these kids too hard. I have a 10 and 12yr old who are very active as well.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:55 AM

View Post4rheel, on 27 June 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

Best thing my son's coach did "mentally" was to make him play a game of 6 scores of 3 holes with the goal to be 1 over for each.  You mess up after the first 3 holes, you forget it and move onto the next 3 holes score, repeat.

Great way to stay focused. Understanding Course management early in a players golf life could be better you think, good fundamentals, course management, dedication to proper practice could lead to very cool future. $$$

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:13 AM

View PostBig Ben, on 03 July 2018 - 08:53 AM, said:

No of course not it's that I seriously think we push these kids too hard. I have a 10 and 12yr old who are very active as well.

In this day and age in America we tend to forget how important nutrition is.  You are telling me that someone is nuts for asking a question about "Why his kid peters out on the back 9"?  If it were football, soccer, baseball, basketball etc. would it still be considered nuts?  Proper nutrition and hydration are important for all sports.  I don't know about you, but I want my kid to be as successful as he can at everything he does whether it in academics or athletics at this age.  If he reads more he will become smarter.  If it is as simple as proper nutrition to be able to finish out an athletic competition, then again "Why is it nuts?".

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:41 AM

There was nothing in the OP's original post that mentioned nutrition. You are entitled to raise your children as you see fit. The question for a 11yr old child was why his score was off on the back nine, I'm saying he or she is 11 and why even care if he is enjoying the activity. Different perspectives my comment was a little harsh for that I apologize.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:47 AM

Fatigue is likely the answer.

Quick question: is he playing the same 18 hole course?

If so, is it possible that the back 9 is just more difficult?


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