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#1 LifeAfterBogeys

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:23 AM

These drivers looks very sexy with the carbon and W  infusion.  Cant wait to get my hands on one.  Titleist is back! :idhitit:


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#2 tannyhoban

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:28 AM

3 new threads for them! They must be great!

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:35 AM

Something something, 3 threads, something, your OP is useless w/o pics or info.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 09:21 PM

To quote my buddy “They look like something sold at Walmart.”
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Posted 17 June 2018 - 09:26 PM

View Postpollock21, on 17 June 2018 - 09:21 PM, said:

To quote my buddy “They look like something sold at Walmart.”

I had one in my hands yesterday (played with a Titleist employee) and I thought it was a very good looking club. I didn’t hit it I thought it was a very good looking driver.


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Posted 18 June 2018 - 06:08 PM

View Posthuddledtoast, on 17 June 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Something something, 3 threads, something, your OP is useless w/o pics or info.

https://www.spargogo...eist-ts-drivers

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:17 PM

View Postswine7777, on 18 June 2018 - 06:08 PM, said:

View Posthuddledtoast, on 17 June 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Something something, 3 threads, something, your OP is useless w/o pics or info.

https://www.spargogo...eist-ts-drivers

I was being facetious.

That being said, the article you linked is also useless. It's a bunch of speculation. Oh they think it'll retail for the same price as all of it's competition?? How insightful!

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:28 PM

View Posthuddledtoast, on 18 June 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

View Postswine7777, on 18 June 2018 - 06:08 PM, said:

View Posthuddledtoast, on 17 June 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Something something, 3 threads, something, your OP is useless w/o pics or info.

https://www.spargogo...eist-ts-drivers

I was being facetious.

That being said, the article you linked is also useless. It's a bunch of speculation. Oh they think it'll retail for the same price as all of it's competition?? How insightful!

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:42 PM

View Posthuddledtoast, on 18 June 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

View Postswine7777, on 18 June 2018 - 06:08 PM, said:

View Posthuddledtoast, on 17 June 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Something something, 3 threads, something, your OP is useless w/o pics or info.

https://www.spargogo...eist-ts-drivers

I was being facetious.

That being said, the article you linked is also useless. It's a bunch of speculation. Oh they think it'll retail for the same price as all of it's competition?? How insightful!
The author of the article is one of the most renowned club fitters in New England and has an impeccable reputation.
Additional, the author has a personal relationship with the senior most personnel at Titleist.
So, the speculation comment is incorrect

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 09:12 PM

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 09:53 PM

I have to be honest I'm not a fan :stink:

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 10:08 PM

View Postjoeplus2, on 18 June 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

I have to be honest I'm not a fan :stink:
Agree. I'm not seeing anything ground breaking. Can't really say until you hit it and I'm sure it will perform great, but looks wise nothing special.

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 10:12 PM

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 10:49 PM

Hope they shake up titleists wood image a bit! Id love for a true M3 competitor

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 12:23 AM

View Postpallagrin, on 19 June 2018 - 10:49 PM, said:

Hope they shake up titleists wood image a bit! I'd love for a true M3 competitor

By looking like an R9 SuperTri?

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 06:24 AM

Yea, nothing ground breaking like twist face or jailbreak that has turned everyone into 380+ WLD hitters.  

I will be impressed when the crown changes color when you press a button on the end of the grip and it starts making jet engine noises when you hit the middle of the face.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 08:20 AM

I've thought about this for a while since the TS hit the board. My guess this has more to do with modern OEM marketing spin than performance. We all know drivers are maxed out been this way for sometime now. I think this has more to do with the emperors new cloths than actual performance. Trust me this is coming from a diehard Titleist fanboy. My guess the boys at Titleist are sick of watching the spin being played with perception being they have fallen behind. They decided to develop there own version of Jailbreak, Turbulators, etc etc. Screw it let's jump on the band wagon and claim higher ball speeds and lower spin. Give the people what they want! In reality (sorry WRX) it's all a bunch of horse crap, play what works for you and hit more fairways. The scorecard doesn't know your smash factor or ball speeds.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 09:32 AM

Dunno what people are on about with lacking "cutting edge technology" - it's a stick you use to smash a ball with and it's been at the limits of regulation for a while now. Any "technology" they implement is mostly marketing mumbo jumbo.

Really the only advantage of a driver newer than 12+ years now is if you hit it all over the face so you don't lose distance on mishits.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 10:08 AM

View PostBubbtubbs, on 20 June 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

Dunno what people are on about with lacking "cutting edge technology" - it's a stick you use to smash a ball with and it's been at the limits of regulation for a while now. Any "technology" they implement is mostly marketing mumbo jumbo.

Really the only advantage of a driver newer than 12+ years now is if you hit it all over the face so you don't lose distance on mishits.

lol don't say that on here you will get slammed even though your right.
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 10:16 AM

View PostBubbtubbs, on 20 June 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

Dunno what people are on about with lacking "cutting edge technology" - it's a stick you use to smash a ball with and it's been at the limits of regulation for a while now. Any "technology" they implement is mostly marketing mumbo jumbo.

Really the only advantage of a driver newer than 12+ years now is if you hit it all over the face so you don't lose distance on mishits.

True to a tee....lol.

Forgiveness on off-centered hits... that's it.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 10:20 AM

Don't kill the messenger but these drivers aren't going to have a "super low spin" story.  The marketing and tech for these drivers will revolve around ball speed.  Generally speaking, higher ball speeds do not equate to lower spin.  Can't talk about the tech until after the embargo date, however, Titleist is going to claim that these heads will have the fastest ball speeds of any driver from any OEM to date.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:13 AM

I don't blame them, it's about loosing the competitive high level amateur who traditionally enjoyed Titleist. When these Am's start leaving for the claims of others Titleist is forced to react. This market space supports long-term loyalty and it's the market Titleist has been loosing. Erode this and possibly loose ProV prestige. Thats the REAL business here after all...

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:22 AM

View PostBingo1976, on 20 June 2018 - 12:23 AM, said:

View Postpallagrin, on 19 June 2018 - 10:49 PM, said:

Hope they shake up titleists wood image a bit! I'd love for a true M3 competitor

By looking like an R9 SuperTri?

As a titleist wood player now we've seen it all but the hope is always great. I'm trying to hold onto hope but the M3 looks so beautiful it's hard to compare based on pure looks. It looks like the R9 SuperTri mixed with their JDM Titleist VG3s

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:48 AM

View PostBubbtubbs, on 20 June 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

Dunno what people are on about with lacking "cutting edge technology" - it's a stick you use to smash a ball with and it's been at the limits of regulation for a while now. Any "technology" they implement is mostly marketing mumbo jumbo. Really the only advantage of a driver newer than 12+ years now is if you hit it all over the face so you don't lose distance on mishits.
Blasphemous!  Every year the newest model of each company's driver is 17 yards longer than the last and is a "fairway finder".   Most would benefit more by finding a head they like the shape and sound of (even if it's a couple of years old) and then getting fitted for the perfect shaft and spend their $$ on that part instead of the latest and greatest.  UNless of course they get on an LM and test against their current gamer and find some significant statistical increase that's worth the $$.

Edited by AmazinBlue, 20 June 2018 - 11:49 AM.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 12:11 PM

Amazin,

Around 5 years ago i bought two Pings, the old G5 and newer I15. Both were good.
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:20 PM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 18 June 2018 - 07:28 PM, said:

View Posthuddledtoast, on 18 June 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

View Postswine7777, on 18 June 2018 - 06:08 PM, said:

View Posthuddledtoast, on 17 June 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Something something, 3 threads, something, your OP is useless w/o pics or info.

https://www.spargogo...eist-ts-drivers

I was being facetious.

That being said, the article you linked is also useless. It's a bunch of speculation. Oh they think it'll retail for the same price as all of it's competition?? How insightful!

Curious.  Do you usually post in a bad mood? You’re coming across a bit grouchy.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:55 PM

View PostBrockPSU, on 20 June 2018 - 10:08 AM, said:

View PostBubbtubbs, on 20 June 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

Dunno what people are on about with lacking "cutting edge technology" - it's a stick you use to smash a ball with and it's been at the limits of regulation for a while now. Any "technology" they implement is mostly marketing mumbo jumbo.

Really the only advantage of a driver newer than 12+ years now is if you hit it all over the face so you don't lose distance on mishits.

lol don't say that on here you will get slammed even though your right.

View Postjonn443, on 20 June 2018 - 10:16 AM, said:

View PostBubbtubbs, on 20 June 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

Dunno what people are on about with lacking "cutting edge technology" - it's a stick you use to smash a ball with and it's been at the limits of regulation for a while now. Any "technology" they implement is mostly marketing mumbo jumbo.

Really the only advantage of a driver newer than 12+ years now is if you hit it all over the face so you don't lose distance on mishits.

True to a tee....lol.

Forgiveness on off-centered hits... that's it.

Not exactly. That IS the primary benefit, but one of the white whales currently being chased by some OEMs is the center of gravity location. Even the lowest COG drivers have still had a true center of gravity that is above the visual sweetspot and this is simply because it is inherently difficult to build a driver with a truly low CG due to how much mass needs to exist in the crown for structural integrity. It is much easier to build a driver with a higher COG but a high COG driver, all things being equal, will on average spin a good bit more then a lower COG driver.

With regards to the low spin distance race, my prediction is that OEMs will continue experimenting with lighter and stronger crown materials in a continuing effort to drop CG and if they can do so successfully we also may see on overall downward shift in the bulge and roll shape around this concept. If OEMs find a way to shift COG down 1/4" without any structural drawbacks then we will see drivers that launch higher and spin less than what we currently do.

Talyormade and Cobra have been at this for awhile with Callaway recently joining in as well. Titleist and Ping have pretty much stayed the course opting for forgiveness and accuracy over maximum spin reduction across the face (low spin is still just as possible here its just more dependent on specific strike location) and i'll be curious to see where the new TItleist TS drivers fit into this equation, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was more of the same.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 05:29 PM

Id like to see an info-graphic showing how different CG drivers on an upward AOA impart spin differently.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 05:50 PM

I haven't been a real fan of the looks on the recent titleist drivers but i think these look good but nothing groundbreaking

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 05:53 PM

View Postcane700, on 20 June 2018 - 05:29 PM, said:

Id like to see an info-graphic showing how different CG drivers on an upward AOA impart spin differently.

It's all about strike location and gear effect and has nothing to do with AoA in this case. Striking the face below its COG imparts a lower launch due to bulge and roll and a higher spin rate due to vertical gear effects. The opposite is true when striking above the COG and how much the spin increases/decreases is impacted by MOI. Higher MOI, less spin impact in either direction, Lower MOI vice versa. Now when you factor in the actual COG location, the lower the COG the more real estate there is on the face to strike above it, and vice versa for a higher COG.

Most all modern drivers of identical loft will perform very similarly if struck exactly on their respective COGs, but since that never happens it becomes about what happens when you miss a little bit in any direction. The low miss is probably the most common and a low miss is by definition worse with a high COG/Low MOI and better with a low COG/high MOI.

The point is that the location of COG matters quite a bit when it comes to performance up and down the face and the MOI determines how much impact those variations have on ballflight. An extremely low COG/extremely high MOI driver would be the best fit for most players as it would offer the highest probability of stronger launch conditions combined with forgiveness but that is extremely tough to build. This is one of the reasons the older Cobra King LTD driver is such a cult favorite as it has one of the lowest COGs and highest MOIs of most modern drivers.

With regards to AoA, all that impacts is dynamic loft and does not play a part in this equation.

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