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#1 scruffynick

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 03:33 PM

I stumbled across some eye2s in a second hand shop and for the cheap price I was having them. So I did the usual and asked ping about them using the serial number....now these eye2s definitely do not have a plus sign in the cavity.
However,  Ping came back to me stating they were ping eye 2+ created in 1990. So have I stumbled across some sort after plus non + eye2s I wonder??


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:23 PM

Ping Eye 2 + no +.  The modified sole, more rounded toe design of the Eye 2+, but still made with the non-conforming Eye 2 grooves.  Made for appx. 6 months, from 11/89 to 4/90.  The sole and W stamp look quite different compared to Eye 2's, but no "+" in the back cavity.  After which Ping began adding a "+" below the pat numbers.  Not sure if Ping denoted the + no + models separately from the E2+.   Easiest to identify looking at wedges.  

Picture of my + no + SW.  Note the absence of a + below the Pat. Numbers.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:54 PM

Not rare.  Ping made tons of clubs back in those days.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:15 PM

Agree, they are not rare.  On the numbered irons, are the soles scalloped in the back?  Or straight across?  The former is the plus and the plus no plus.  The latter is the plain Eye2.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:32 PM

It's not unusual for PING to use a serial number more than once - I have a set of BeCu Eye 2s that have re-used serial numbers.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 01:07 AM

View PostFellaheen51, on 14 June 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

Ping Eye 2 + no +.  The modified sole, more rounded toe design of the Eye 2+, but still made with the non-conforming Eye 2 grooves.  Made for appx. 6 months, from 11/89 to 4/90.  The sole and W stamp look quite different compared to Eye 2's, but no "+" in the back cavity.  After which Ping began adding a "+" below the pat numbers.  Not sure if Ping denoted the + no + models separately from the E2+.   Easiest to identify looking at wedges.  

Picture of my + no + SW.  Note the absence of a + below the Pat. Numbers.

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Ta, that's them alright! Many thanks as I was wondering yesterday after my ping email

View PostNessism, on 14 June 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Not rare.  Ping made tons of clubs back in those days.
I know but I was still excited to have something I've haven't had before

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 01:11 AM

Just a question, I've researched a little and there's a few contradicting versions but I am ok to play these in a competition on my home course....in the UK??
Anyway, here's a picture of the sw!

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:53 AM

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 08:01 AM

View Postscruffynick, on 15 June 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Just a question, I've researched a little and there's a few contradicting versions but I am ok to play these in a competition on my home course....in the UK??
Anyway, here's a picture of the sw!

As I recall the UK had a slightly different take on the whole "Ping groove debacle" from back in the day.  From the USGA perspective the grooves are okay for comp use till 2024, other than in high level Am and pro events that require CC grooves.

Edit: + no + can be identified in part by the numbers cast into the cavity.  As your wedge shows the top number ends with ...577 and the second line...813.  Those numbers are a giveaway as to the groove type.  And contrary to what some people think, the grooves on those clubs are NOT sharp.  In fact, the snafu over the grooves is because Ping used a very generous radius where the groove meets the face.

Edited by Nessism, 18 June 2018 - 08:05 AM.

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 08:02 AM

View Postscruffynick, on 15 June 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Just a question, I've researched a little and there's a few contradicting versions but I am ok to play these in a competition on my home course....in the UK??
Anyway, here's a picture of the sw!

If you play in any amateur handicapped events and someone gives you a hard time about your grooves, you should kick them square in the family jewels and tell them to pull their head out of their arse.

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 09:50 AM

I would not use those in a comp in the UK. As far I know the UK take on the groove issue was simple. Plus in the back. OK. No plus non-conforming.

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 04:41 PM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 18 June 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

View Postscruffynick, on 15 June 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Just a question, I've researched a little and there's a few contradicting versions but I am ok to play these in a competition on my home course....in the UK??
Anyway, here's a picture of the sw!

If you play in any amateur handicapped events and someone gives you a hard time about your grooves, you should kick them square in the family jewels and tell them to pull their head out of their arse.
Ha ha like it!

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 07:42 AM

View Postscruffynick, on 15 June 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Just a question, I've researched a little and there's a few contradicting versions but I am ok to play these in a competition on my home course....in the UK??
Anyway, here's a picture of the sw!

Best practice is to ask the tournament committee to learn if the clubs are conforming for the competition.  Document, document , document the communications.

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 03:41 PM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 18 June 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

View Postscruffynick, on 15 June 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Just a question, I've researched a little and there's a few contradicting versions but I am ok to play these in a competition on my home course....in the UK??
Anyway, here's a picture of the sw!

If you play in any amateur handicapped events and someone gives you a hard time about your grooves, you should kick them square in the family jewels and tell them to pull their head out of their arse.
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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:10 AM

View PostBIG STU, on 20 June 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 18 June 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

View Postscruffynick, on 15 June 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Just a question, I've researched a little and there's a few contradicting versions but I am ok to play these in a competition on my home course....in the UK??
Anyway, here's a picture of the sw!

If you play in any amateur handicapped events and someone gives you a hard time about your grooves, you should kick them square in the family jewels and tell them to pull their head out of their arse.
My sentiments exactly :scenic:
The course is that hard at the moment the grooves need to he huge!! It hasn't rained properly in months and due for more hot weather next week.....the Open could be very firm! But I'm loving the weather


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