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Pulling wedges on course, fine on range - any ideas?


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#1 gentles

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:51 AM

Hey all - been struggling mightily on the course over the last month or so hitting big pulls with wedges. I can sit on the range and go through a full bucket of balls and not hit a single one left (different clubs, different targets etc), so I'm not sure it's a pure technique issue.

Seems to be especially prevalent on partial swings, and with a left to right wind. Worst nightmare is a 60 yard shot to a back left pin!

My thinking is that its more of a mental issue rather than technique so i'm hesitant to post videos. Anyone have any suggestions or insights from their own experiences?

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:16 PM

Could it be from the difference of hitting off a mat at the range versus turf on the course? Maybe the natural grass is grabbing the hosel sooner than it would on a mat.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:07 PM

View Postcmckelvmi, on 13 June 2018 - 12:16 PM, said:

Could it be from the difference of hitting off a mat at the range versus turf on the course? Maybe the natural grass is grabbing the hosel sooner than it would on a mat.

I did spend far too long practicing off mats earlier this year, but my range at home is on grass. Might be the correct diagnostic of the pull though. Thanks!

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:12 PM

Different swing on the course vs. practice?   Range I tend to have a more relaxed, natural swing...sometimes on the course, I get a bit amped...especially with the 3/4 or 1/2 shots...I sometimes get ahead of myself with the arms and pull it left.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:54 PM

Most pulls I see are tempo issues. You're either a little too jazzed to be playing a round or a little too nervous about the results of your shot. If you're trying to get more distance on the course and end up pulling it, it's definitely a tempo issue. Slow yourself down.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:07 PM

Could be an aiming or alignment issue. Might want to pay extra close attention to how you aim the ball and align yourself (feet, hips, shoulders, clubface) the next time you hit wedges on the range, where things are working, and try to recreate that on the course. Possibly also ask a playing partner how your aim and alignment looks on a wedge shot or two on the course as well.

For me aiming and alignment is the biggest problem in equalizing performance on the range versus the course, because on the range I have a lot of consistent scenery near me to use as an aiming reference (particularly if I'm hitting off of mats, giving me some right angles to work with).

I also mention this in part because I had a problem pulling wedges recently as well, and working out some alignment issues seems to have fixed the bulk of the issue.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:08 PM

Double check alignment too.  Your body may be overdoing compensations for misalignment and end up with a pull.  This also includes how close you are too the ball.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:16 PM

Keep your grip super loose. Most golfers subconsciously tighten  their grip in a pressure situation which can alter many different parts of a swing. Might explain why your range form doesn't translate to the course.

Develop a solid pre-shot routine and practice it as much on the range as you do your swing. Focus on keeping the grip pressure as low as possible.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:09 PM

These are all great suggestions - thanks! Alignment is one to check for sure, as well as working on a pre shot routine.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:20 PM

Range is flat.  Range may have mats.  Course is rarely flat...lies vary.  As such, IMO, wedge...iron...hybrid range practice accounts for 10-20% of on-course shots.


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:30 AM

For me i pull my wedges left on partial shots cuz i dont rotate my belt and chest to the target. I cut off my swing say hip high and then just hands and arms drop. Something i try and work on is getting more open at impact an shallowing the club behind me.

I also think wedges are too upright from the factory. Im blue dot in ping irons but play 50 and higher in red dot.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 11:41 AM

Alignment
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Arms only swing

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 01:09 PM

This is mental...100%.  i can play "Layla' on the piano by myself and play well.  Then get a few musicians around and suddenly my brain starts dishing out "instructions"...arms get heavy...fingers slow down.  You'd be surprised how fast and quietly negative thoughts and tension builds...we don't think we're negative or tense because both occur at a pace we don't recognize.  Let's look at your shot because I have run into the same issues over and over!

From the moment you saw the need to hit the wedge, your brain opened a "PowerPoint presentation" slideshow about how well you hit wedges on the range...an initially positive outlook.   But, as you neared the ball, that PP file closed, and another opened.  This one shows all times you missed this shot.  Negative thinking.  Thoughts like "well, this isn't exactly like the range...this counts" or "watch out for that shank".  Then you align the shot from behind the ball.... one final look. Then take your address to hit.

Now the brain quickly opens the "final" PP presentation that is full of things to "consider" or "avoid"...like "keep in mind this is slightly uphill"...or..."hmmm....a tuft of grass there....will it catch my club?"...or...."whatever you do....DON'T BE AN IDIOT AND CHUNK IT".  What started out positive turned negative.  Then as you started the back swing....your brain said "I don't know...I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ANY OF THIS"...and the "ABORT" signal sounded, and the swing got tense and short...a swing so unpredictable and tension-filled that assessing "what happened" is a complete waste of time.

The trick is to keep the first "PowerPoint" up and running...ignore everything else.  I can align a wedge shot all day...but it doesn't matter if negative thinking creeps in and my brain aborts the swing half-way up.  Even worse, not having a pre-shot routine to catch things like "there's a tuft of grass behind the ball" or "uphill lie" before one addresses the ball means you (we) have WAY too many thoughts going thru our heads.  Now imagine thinking...beyond the above....."keep the left arm straight" or "don't take the club back too far".  WAY too much going on.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 06:09 PM

I tend to pull half wedges too. What has helped me is to pay a lot of attention to make sure the shaft gets shallowed and isn’t steep/ott.
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