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#1 socied

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:05 AM

Hey guys. Struggling with consistency over the last few weeks. Do yall see anything out of the ordinary that I should work on? Currently at a 4.5 hdcp and trying to get back to 1-2. Irons have been lacking.

A couple notes:
  • I know I am dead shut at the top. I have been for my whole like. Working on that and dont really mind it.
  • Tempo is fast. See above. Can't kick the quick tempo.
  • Misses are bad hooks w/irons and massive slices with driver
  • Randomly been hitting it fat. Divots seem to be pointing right of target.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:58 AM

Steep coming down. I'd try to hit a fade with everything and grind it out.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:14 PM

View PostCSagan, on 13 June 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

Steep coming down. I'd try to hit a fade with everything and grind it out.

Mmmm like it and like hearing that fade part. My typical ball flight was a fade until a year ago when the left ball came out of no where and really messed with my confidence. My draw used to be a 2 yard cut :taunt:  Not anymore :stink:

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM

Elbows way too far apart in downswing.  Probably at the top as well.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:32 PM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

Elbows way too far apart in downswing.  Probably at the top as well.

Woah interesting...Never looked at this... Is more of the arms being bent and/or stuck at impact and I should straighten out or is it literally they are just too far apart? Any drills to help this?


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:41 PM

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

Elbows way too far apart in downswing.  Probably at the top as well.

Woah interesting...Never looked at this... Is more of the arms being bent and/or stuck at impact and I should straighten out or is it literally they are just too far apart? Any drills to help this?

Definitely try the Nike Drill.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:41 PM

On Montes suggestion. Interesting to see hte difference in the distance between the elbows on these two photos. the one with the ball is normal obviously and the only with out the ball I am trying to create a divot in front of the stick. Doing this to help pivoting around the left leg.

Any correlation?

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:43 PM

View PostSchnee, on 13 June 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

Elbows way too far apart in downswing.  Probably at the top as well.

Woah interesting...Never looked at this... Is more of the arms being bent and/or stuck at impact and I should straighten out or is it literally they are just too far apart? Any drills to help this?

Definitely try the Nike Drill.

unfamiliar with this one. Have a link?

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:54 PM

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

View PostSchnee, on 13 June 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

Elbows way too far apart in downswing.  Probably at the top as well.

Woah interesting...Never looked at this... Is more of the arms being bent and/or stuck at impact and I should straighten out or is it literally they are just too far apart? Any drills to help this?

Definitely try the Nike Drill.

unfamiliar with this one. Have a link?


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:54 PM

Right elbow gap with torso is huge.  Itís one reason why shaft is vertical.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:56 PM

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

View PostSchnee, on 13 June 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

Elbows way too far apart in downswing.  Probably at the top as well.

Woah interesting...Never looked at this... Is more of the arms being bent and/or stuck at impact and I should straighten out or is it literally they are just too far apart? Any drills to help this?

Definitely try the Nike Drill.

unfamiliar with this one. Have a link?

In all seriousness, the tour striker smart ball would help. Helped me with my elbow gap.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:15 PM

View PostSchnee, on 13 June 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

View PostSchnee, on 13 June 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

View Postsocied, on 13 June 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 13 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

Elbows way too far apart in downswing.  Probably at the top as well.

Woah interesting...Never looked at this... Is more of the arms being bent and/or stuck at impact and I should straighten out or is it literally they are just too far apart? Any drills to help this?

Definitely try the Nike Drill.

unfamiliar with this one. Have a link?


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Hahahhahha sorry took me a second

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:17 PM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 13 June 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

Right elbow gap with torso is huge.  It's one reason why shaft is vertical.


Ahh ok, I see what you mean.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:38 PM

I would not worry about the tempo.  And I wouldn't worry that much about the clubface at the top.  Shut is better than open from my experience.

I don't like your pressure shift and femur action.  Compare it to DJ (another player with a very shut clubface at the top.

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DJ's leg action allows him to move his Center of Mass forward

And it really starts early in the downswing.  Look at the angles of you left leg.

dj comp2.png

It would explain why you're hitting it fat.  The low point is moving back.

And I think since you are not shifting your Center of Mass forward towards the target, the right arm folds to compensate and thus the elbows get further apart in the downswing.  Instead of allowing the right arm to unfold in transition and the elbows getting closer together (allowing the club to shallow out).  







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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:50 PM

FWIT...in a 0.25 slo-mo on front view...I think your left shoulder starts to rotate properly...then abruptly goes straight-up....which will push the club to the right (push shot), and/or you'll slice because your hips are rotating left while you lift your left should early....instead of rotating the left shoulder in a smooth left / up move.  Check your left foot at impact...heel is off the ground...so either you're pushing the left shoulder up with your left foot-pump, or the left shoulder is pulling your left heel off the ground.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:32 AM

View PostFourTops, on 13 June 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

FWIT...in a 0.25 slo-mo on front view...I think your left shoulder starts to rotate properly...then abruptly goes straight-up....which will push the club to the right (push shot), and/or you'll slice because your hips are rotating left while you lift your left should early....instead of rotating the left shoulder in a smooth left / up move.  Check your left foot at impact...heel is off the ground...so either you're pushing the left shoulder up with your left foot-pump, or the left shoulder is pulling your left heel off the ground.
Neither.  He as pointed out by Richie has moved his mass back to his right side so he has little pressure under his left foot.   He has moved his torso backward.   Watch his head.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:49 AM

So per several peoples comments about moving my center of mass towards the target....Played last night and holy crap. Yall are amazing. Obviously it'll take some time to get used to but 7-pw were unreal. Some of the most crisp and pure shots ive ever hit. I honestly cannot believe it. Now with that said, I wasnt worried about alignment as much so I got a little off line but those off line shots were so so so good.

Didn't hit many irons beyond 7i. I think one 5 iron that was meh, two 3 irons that were off the toe but in the fw. Then the best punch cut 4 iron that I have ever hit in my life. Got super lucky. Missed the birdie putt haha. Oh and one 6 iron that I hit about 50 yards with a divot that was about 4 yards long. Not good.

Driver and 3 wood stil need a lot of work to get used to it. When I htink I did it correctly I hit some bombs but that only happened twice. The others were a mixed bag, probably thinking about too much stuff. I will be hitting the range this weekend to work on it more.

Thanks a lot guys. I will keep yall posted (if you care hahaha)

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:32 AM

Upper isn’t getting forward because it’s tilting to keep shaft from getting too vertical.

Shaft is too vertical because elbows are too far apart.  Have to fix that first.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:48 AM

Monte,

Your thoughts on usings this to get elbows closer? Still struggling with the same thing

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 03:29 PM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 14 June 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

Upper isn’t getting forward because it’s tilting to keep shaft from getting too vertical.

Shaft is too vertical because elbows are too far apart.  Have to fix that first.

I was thinking about this yesterday as I was playing. I can almost feel it now, especially with driver. I was consciously thinking about dropping my right elbow into my right side during the downswing. That seemed to help. Not sure if this is the right swing thought. I will try to get another video this weekend to see if i've improved.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:22 PM

View Postglk, on 14 June 2018 - 06:32 AM, said:

View PostFourTops, on 13 June 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

FWIT...in a 0.25 slo-mo on front view...I think your left shoulder starts to rotate properly...then abruptly goes straight-up....which will push the club to the right (push shot), and/or you'll slice because your hips are rotating left while you lift your left should early....instead of rotating the left shoulder in a smooth left / up move.  Check your left foot at impact...heel is off the ground...so either you're pushing the left shoulder up with your left foot-pump, or the left shoulder is pulling your left heel off the ground.
Neither.  He as pointed out by Richie has moved his mass back to his right side so he has little pressure under his left foot.   He has moved his torso backward.   Watch his head.

Neither?  I stand by my observation.   His left shoulder juts up early...out of rotation.  So either the shoulder is pulling the left heel up...or the he is pumping his left heel....either way it stops rotation of the swing pushing the club right while hips turn left...slice-o-rama...or push.  Weight is pushing backwards because of something pushing it backwards.  It's basically a reverse pivot which is a shame because his hip rotation is very good.  Just keep the shoulder rotating and don't push the left heel off the ground...stay planted.

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